American Prospect Update Thread

[William H Bonney]

Boo-E-mm I believe. Shai came to pre-season camp in Portland for two years before deciding on the NCAA route and I think that's how it was pronounced when listening to coverage of it. I'd assume they're related both coming from California and with a unique last name like that.

Yeah, they're brothers.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

Boo-E-mm I believe. Shai came to pre-season camp in Portland for two years before deciding on the NCAA route and I think that's how it was pronounced when listening to coverage of it. I'd assume they're related both coming from California and with a unique last name like that.

Thanks. The NTDP actually puts a pronunciation guide with the camp rosters and it looks like it's BOO-yum.

 

[Dux917]

 

[JiggsNY]

I wonder what this means for Shaugabay and Whitelaw, feel like they have been among the most hyped from MN. Shaugabay too is a dual national I wouldn’t want to lose him, but he might just not be as good as his prior hype.

 

[William H Bonney]

I wonder what this means for Shaugabay and Whitelaw, feel like they have been among the most hyped from MN. Shaugabay too is a dual national I wouldn’t want to lose him, but he might just not be as good as his prior hype.

Shaugabay is not a dual. You're thinking of Sawchyn.

 

[JotAlan]

Thanks. The NTDP actually puts a pronunciation guide with the camp rosters and it looks like it's BOO-yum.

When should the official result of the chosen ones come out?

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

When should the official result of the chosen ones come out?

I don't know. NTDP has not said when they'll release the roster. It will be any day now, I suspect, if they've started to send out invites.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

I wonder what this means for Shaugabay and Whitelaw, feel like they have been among the most hyped from MN. Shaugabay too is a dual national I wouldn’t want to lose him, but he might just not be as good as his prior hype.

Roster should be announced any day now, I would imagine.

 

[Jaykay]

I wonder what this means for Shaugabay and Whitelaw, feel like they have been among the most hyped from MN. Shaugabay too is a dual national I wouldn’t want to lose him, but he might just not be as good as his prior hype.

There's also a decent chance that Shaugabay, as a Warroad kid, wouldn't accept even if invited.

 

[JiggsNY]

There's also a decent chance that Shaugabay, as a Warroad kid, wouldn't accept even if invited.

Right that's true with the HS kids. The Shattuck kids you would expect to accept if offered.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

There's also a decent chance that Shaugabay, as a Warroad kid, wouldn't accept even if invited.

If that's the case, why attend the tryout camp? Seems a shame to take a spot away from someone else if you have no plans to join the team if invited.

 

[William H Bonney]

If that's the case, why attend the tryout camp? Seems a shame to take a spot away from someone else if you have no plans to join the team if invited.

The tryout camp is part evaluation of players, and part sales pitch to players. The NTDP doesn't only want players dead set on the NTDP to show up.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

The tryout camp is part evaluation of players, and part sales pitch to players. The NTDP doesn't only want players dead set on the NTDP to show up.

Alrighty then. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[William H Bonney]

 

[William H Bonney]

St. Sebastian’s and Junior Eagles 16-U center Will Smith, Dexter Southfield and Junior Eagles 16-U right wing Will Vote, and Pope Francis and Springfield Rifles 15 Only right wing Ryan Leonard will all wear the red, white and blue with the NTDP for the next two seasons.

 

[JiggsNY]

Surprised by this seemed like most people had him pegged for a spot on the team.

 

[Luc Poitras]

Hearing other North East Coasters making NTDP:
Mennetian
St. Loius
Guzzo
Fortescue
Musty

 

[JiggsNY]

I hope St. Louis is a fantastic player, but idk man. Idk why the NTDP has blind loyalty to family names sometimes, I hope I'm wrong about it. Don't understand how it helps the NTDP in anyway, we've seen is several times.

 

[Tube Skates]

I hope St. Louis is a fantastic player, but idk man. Idk why the NTDP has blind loyalty to family names sometimes, I hope I'm wrong about it. Don't understand how it helps the NTDP in anyway, we've seen is several times.

I mostly follow Eastern Canada junior so just curious on who the recent offspring under achievers have been.

 

[JiggsNY]

I mostly follow Eastern Canada junior so just curious on who the recent offspring under achievers have been.

It’s not even an offspring thing really, a lot of time is just loyalty to siblings of NTDP alum. Off the top of my head some of the notable families the Pastujovs, the Gildons, Greenways, Janickes, Slaggerts, St. Louis. And more I’m probably forgetting. And it’s not that some of these kids had no business making the team, it’s just you get the feeling the last name often gives them an edge over others for whatever reason.

 

[JiggsNY]

This is interesting to hear. Rarely hear this about an American in the OHL Draft, especially not if he is headed to the NTDP. Wonder why they would consider that when word is Musty is on the team.

 

[William H Bonney]

This is interesting to hear. Rarely hear this about an American in the OHL Draft, especially not if he is headed to the NTDP. Wonder why they would consider that when word is Musty is on the team.

Tweet was removed?

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

Tweet was removed?

Might be this. Lot of buzz about this in OHL circles on Twitter tonight.

 

[JiggsNY]

Tweet was removed?

Yup it was the Quentin Musty tweets. Curious if it’s making that much of a splash in those circles there must be some type of smoke.
Hard to believe any team would waste the first pick without a hard lock commitment.

edit: and no offense to Sudbury this isn’t like the London Knights calling this kid up. Sudbury is way up in the middle of nowhere, really interesting what might be happening. Turning down the NTDP as a top American prospect has almost become unheard of.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

Yup it was the Quentin Musty tweets. Curious if it’s making that much of a splash in those circles there must be some type of smoke.
Hard to believe any team would waste the first pick without a hard lock commitment.

edit: and no offense to Sudbury this isn’t like the London Knights calling this kid up. Sudbury is way up in the middle of nowhere, really interesting what might be happening. Turning down the NTDP as a top American prospect has almost become unheard of.

Yes, this is definitely an intriguing development.

Another angle is if Sudbury got wind of Musty wanting to come to the OHL -- but to another team. The OHL has a rule that allows a team to declare a first-round pick "defected" if they don't report to camp. A team gets a compensatory first-round pick -- one spot later than the spot in which the player was drafted -- the following year if they trade him by Sept. 15. There's talk of another highly-ranked Ontario-born prospect (not Ritchie) signing a tender with Muskegon, so teams with high picks might be looking to maximize value for their franchise rather than settle for a lesser player.

OHLWriters: OHL Defected 1st round draft pick Flashback Trade Tree - Lucas Lessio

Here's another story about compensatory picks.

OHL draft holdouts have power, but teams can pay a long game