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  1. Russian_fanatic

    Russian_fanatic Registered User

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    Who do you think the goaltenders will be? And what about defencemen?
     
  2. NYIschremp44

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    Here's my prediction for who USA will win their 2nd WJC in a row with.

    Montoya
    Schneider

    Likens
    Suter
    Hunwick
    Lewis
    Nickerson
    Thelen
    Sharrow

    (Johnson and Lashoff are probably better than some on that list but I think age will be the determing factor here but I do think atleast 1 of the 2 will make the team probably becauase of injury.)

    Dowell
    Fritsche
    O'Sullivan
    Stafford
    Hennessy
    Hensick
    Pineault
    Schremp
    Earl
    Kessell
    Vigilante
    Brown
    Wheeler- (draft position helps here, plus if the forward list i provided is anywhere close to accurate, his size will be GREATLY needed....what is in US water that makes our forwards so short?)
     
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  3. HabLover

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    Team USA will not win a 2nd Gold Medal in a row with the team you listed. For starters, Fritsche, Stafford and Suter could all be in the NHL next season with any luck. If there is an NHL season, it's almost for sure Fritsche will be with Columbus and more than likely will not be released for Team USA. Stafford is doubtful to make the show, but hey, you never know? Suter could surprise and make the NHL?

    If any or all of those guys aren't there, Team USA becomes extremely vulnerable. They have holes everywhere, other than in goal, but I would hope Montoya to really be on his game next year, cuz then we'll all see what he's really made of. The Americans were lucky to win the Gold medal game last year and will get destroyed by Canada this time around with that lineup.
     
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    Are sour grapes as sour as I hear?
     
  5. db23

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    Having O'Sullivan, Schremp, Hensick and Kessel down the middle is quite awesome, but I don't know that here would be room for 4 small offensive centres.
     
  6. db23

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    Suter couldn't come to terms with Nashville so he will be back. I think that Jack Johnson might be just as good, anyway. Team Canada would be lose a lot more from NHL callups than the U.S. in any event.
     
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    You guys are really under estamating Josh Hennessy

    Just watch, he will be the second best player in the Q behind Crosby
     
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    with Maxime Talbot gone he is already
     
  9. leafaholix*

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    Robbie Earl... WOOOOO!

    U S A!

    U S A!
     
  10. bizzz*

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    Maybe he meant Tom Fritsche. He's a younger brother of Danny, played for the USA team on the U-18 WC this year in Minsk and just entered Ohio-State University.
     
  11. Rabid Ranger

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    Must be. It kills some people to give credit where credit is due I guess..... In all of his rambling, he does make a good point: the U.S. roster could be vulnerable depending on how many players stick with their NHL teams, but IMO, that probably won't be an issue, which is a benefit of having so many guys from the NCAA. A much differant dynamic than junior based players. Anyway, here's my team:


    Goaltenders:

    Al Montoya
    Mike Brown

    Defensemen:
    Ryan Suter
    Matt Hunwick
    Jeff Likens
    Matt Nickerson
    Jim Sharrow
    A.J. Thelen
    Grant Lewis
    Matt Lashoff

    Forwards:
    Patrick O'Sullivan
    T.J. Hensick
    Dan Fritsche
    Josh Hennessey
    Jake Dowell
    Drew Stafford
    Blake Wheeler
    Phil Kessel
    Adam Pineault
    Ryan Callahan
    Kevin Porter
    Rob Schremp

    Undersized, but as skilled as they come. Should challenge for a medal.
     
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    Six or seven of those defensemen would not make Team Canada.
     
  13. Rabid Ranger

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    No offense, but so what? That could probably be said year in and year out. Canada still hasn't won gold at the WJC's since '97. All that matters is they play solidly for the U.S. and work together as a team, just like last year.
     
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    The only players that would make Canada would be:
    Montoya
    Suter ( on line for canada's 4th D spot with Belle)
    Thelan (3rd D behind Phaneuf and Coburn)
    O Sullivan ( First Line Center for Canada possibly)
    Fritsche (top two lines)
    Scremp ( Top two lines)
    possibly Stafford (as a role player 11, 12th forward taking Cullitton or Dixons place)

    Just my opinion BUT Canada at the junior level is so deep it's sick.
    However the USA is a very good team and will challenge for a medal. With the right luck they could end up with the gold again.
     
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    I thought Schremp said he wouldn't play for Team USA after not being on last years team? Maybe the Oilers can talk some sense into him.

    And I was under the impression that Suter was returning to Wisconsin, is he going to sign instead?

    Either way, Canada, USA, Russia are all looking strong with Finland right there as well. I look forward to seeing Belarus as well, hope there's good tv coverage from North Dakota.
     
  16. degroat*

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    Speaking of Belarus.... their best forward last year, Zakharov, is leaving the CHL for the AHL this year. Does anyone know if teams typically allow WJC eligible prospects to leave the minors to play in the tournament?
     
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    There is no way O'Sullivan would be a 1st line center for Canada.

    Suter could make Canada's D, but where do you put him if guys like Seabrook, Phaneuf, Belle, Coburn, Green, Barker play for the team. I doubt a guy like Thelen could unseat any of the Canadian D-men.
     
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    That's a very good looking team and probably among the perfect they could take to the games.

    However the problem is that the US rarely takes all the right players because of its obvious bias towards the CHL, while being loyal to the boys who run through the Development programs.

    I highly doubt Matt Lashoff makes it, simply because in the past they've left CHL guys off in their draft year. Lashoff would probably only be the second unit powerplay guy and a used sparingly 5 on 5 defenseman, so my bet would be on them taking someone else.

    It will also be interesting to see what they do with Matt Nickerson and Adam Pineault because they left college for other endeavours. Nickerson for the CHL, and Pineault (who knows yet). But I'd be curious as to if they'd leave these guys off the team simply because of their actions towards the US program.

    But regardless it's going to be a very good looking team.
     
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    I'd take Suter over any of Canada's defenseman save Phaneuf. IMO Phaneuf and Suter are the top defensive prospects in the game.

    And I'd take Thelen over Belle and Green.
     
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    You're right about the usual bias towards the CHL, but I always hope that will change! As for Lashoff, if not him, I'd probably name Jack Johnson. The thing with him is I think it will come down to either him or Kessel, and I'm not sure who will be taken (if at all). They play differant positions but are both very young.
     
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    Where would you take him? How about ahead of everyone of the guys you have listed except for Phaneuf?
     
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    Schremp's comments of late (I'll try to find the link) indicate he would play if asked.
     
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    It's up to the Blues if they want him there or not, I hope he goes, Belarus will need all the help they can get.
     
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    Exactly. Most of the country's top athletes are attracted to three sports, none of which are hockey.
     
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