Am I reading these scouting lists right?

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  1. st_roland

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    I could be crazy, but at the NA skaters list, Barker is ranked something like 10th?? What is up with that, I thought he was a lock for at least 4th overall in the draft, after Ovechkin, Malkin and Olesz? Can anyone explain this?
     
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    While I think it's not accurate to have him that far down the list, I've heard rumblings that he was better last season then he has been so far in 2003-04.

    Is this reason enough for his rating? Probably not. I've been known to disagree with Central Scouting from time to time.
     
  3. leafaholix*

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    Kyle Woodlief mentioned in an earlier article that he hasn't improved from last season.

    That may have something to do with it.
     
  4. X-SHARKIE

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    He's top 4 pick IMO. His stock shouldnt have fallen.

    It's not really his fault, but he shouldn't be played so much. He's been a work horse. Gotta cut the kids ice time down.
     
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    Wow all that from a tv viewing. Nice
     
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    I heard he was the captain this year, if this is true, that might be why?
     
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    That, and a (un)healthy reading of Redline :p
     
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    Are you talking about CSS rankings? And what is "something like 10th"? Because at this level, 1-3 positions less or more are pretty significant, IMO. Is it 7th? 9th? 11th? 13h? or 10th?
     
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    Yes. It is mid-term CSS rankings. They have Barker 5th among North American Skaters. The list as a whole is a bit screwed up IMHO.
    Wes O'Neill is ranked 20th among North American skaters for instance.

    North American List:
    http://nhl.com/futures/cssrankings/2004midterm/northamerica.html

    European List:
    http://nhl.com/futures/cssrankings/2004midterm/europe.html
     
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    I think the ranking has to do with Barker's defensive ability...if they were in the same draft class, I would have had Barker behind all of Coburn, Suter, Phaneuf and Stuart.
     
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    You're an Idiot. It's been well talked about, as well as shown in his ice time. Gamesheet well tell you that. Barker has been overused.
     
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    Barker isn't a sieve defensively - his whole defensive issues are becoming quite a bit over-rated.

    To say that you would take Stuart over him, is a perfect example, IMHO....

    His upside is as great, if not greater than any d-man taken in the 2003 draft, Suter and Coburn included.
     
  13. st_roland

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    I'd say its pretty insignifigant considering it was my understanding that Cam Barker was the consensus #1 NA skater in the upcoming draft. But I wouldn't be surprised if you know something I don't. You sure act like it.
     
  14. DR. Holiday

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    Oh I thought you had said you used no other sources and just went on extensive viewings of 1 or 2 games on tape.
     
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    UGH. You guys put words into my mouths. I even told you straite up I use McKeens has help. THat's a great site, I read Redlines articles on USA today but i'm not going to pay 40$ for that. I do see prospects. I'm pasionite about hockey and I love draft day. Ask anyone who I talk with personally, they'll tell you the same. Lay off Dr.Holliday...You hawk my posts...it's getting old.
     
  16. st_roland

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    I agree. Lay off X-Sharkie. I appreciate the service he does. Obviously he enjoys it, but I enjoy reading his thoughts.
     
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    While normally I agree that the Poop Report is barely worth reading, in that particular article I didn't see anything really disagreeable. Of course, the fact that they open it with a bunch of self-congratulatory back-patting simply underlines everything negative about Redline's (and Woodlief's) entire style.
     
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    However unresearched and based on actual hockey scouting ability they may be.
     
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