All-time teams for your country.....

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  1. Kugel

    Kugel Registered User

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    who is on the all-time team of yur fav country....who is canada's goalie? do u prefer the old-time russian or the new generation of flashy ones? i want a fantasy team...
     
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  2. Do you want us to make a fantasy team composed of the best players from our country?

    Or do you want us to pick the best real team that our country has actually put together?
     
  3. If it is a fantasy team, then:

    Bobby Hull - Wayne Gretzky - Gordie Howe
    Mario Lemieux - Phil Esposito - Maurice Richard
    Howie Morenz - Jean Beliveau - Guy Lafleur
    Mark Messier - Stan Mikita - Mike Bossy
    EXTRAS : Ted Lindsay, Bobby Clarke, Frank Mahovlich

    Bobby Orr - Eddie Shore
    Raymound Bourque - Doug Harvey
    Red Kelly - Denis Potvin
    EXTRAS : Larry Robinson, Paul Coffey

    Patrick Roy
    Terry Sawchuk
    EXTRAS : Jacques Plante
     
  4. As for real team, then I would say Team Canada at the 1987 Canada Cup.

    I think that is the greatest hockey team ever put together.
     
  5. Coburnfan05

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    IMO This team would never lose a single game.
     
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    That was a stellar team...That's when it was played in Hamilton right.
     
  7. Zine

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    I'd say either the '72 Canadian team or the '79 Soviet National team were the best.
     
  8. Can you post the players who played for that team? I would like to know, since I was born the year after that :p:
     
  9. John Flyers Fan

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    I'll take the 87 Canada Cup team over the 72 Summit Series team.

    In 72 they were missing Orr and Hull two of the biggest stars in the game.

    In 87 you had the Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, Bourque, and Coffey in the prime of their careers.
     

  10. Forwards:
    Wayne Gretzky
    Mario Lemieux
    Mark Messier
    Dale Hawerchuk
    Doug Gilmour
    Rick Tocchet
    Glenn Anderson
    Michel Goulet
    Brent Sutter
    Mike Gartner
    Brian Propp
    Kevin Dineen
    Claude Lemieux

    Defensemen:
    Raymond Bourque
    Paul Coffey
    Larry Murphy
    Doug Crossman
    James Patrick
    Craig Hartsburg
    Normand Rochefort

    Goaltenders:
    Grant Fuhr
    Ron Hextall
    Kelly Hrudey
     

  11. Exactly.

    Not to mention the players who had flown off to the WHA were not eligible to play.
     
  12. John Flyers Fan

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    Fuhr
    Hextall
    Hrudey

    Doug Crossman
    Craig Hartsburg
    Normand Rochefort
    James Patrick
    Ray Bourque
    Larry Murphy
    Paul Coffey

    Glenn Anderson
    Dale Hawerchuk
    Mark Messier
    Mike Gartner
    Kevin Dineen
    Michel Goulet
    Brent Sutter
    Rick Tocchet
    Brian Propp
    Doug Gilmour
    Claude Lemieux
    Mario Lemieux
    Wayne Gretzky


    Tournament MVP - Wayne Gretzky

    All tourney Team

    Fuhr
    Bourque
    Fetisov
    Gretzky
    Lemieux
    Krutov

    Leading scorers - 9 games played

    Gretzky 3-18-21
    Lemieux 11-7-18
    Makarov 7-8-15
    Krutov 7-7-14
    Bykov 2-7-9
    Bourque 2-6-8


    For my money the Final between Canada & Soviets were the best hockey ever played.

    6-5 OT
    6-5 2OT
    6-5
     
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    On paper I'd agree and say the '87 team is better. But in terms of performance, I'd have to go with the '72 team.

    The '87 Canadians barely beat a very mediocre Soviet team in the finals and even tied the Czechs once. In fact, apart from the "Green Unit", that '87 squad was not that good (compared to past Soviet teams), yet still managed play the Canadians evenly.
    If the '72 Canadians could beat the '72 Soviets, they'd have no problem with the '87 Soviet squad.
    JMHO
     
  14. Thanks jcs_1983_shannonman and John Flyers Fan ;)
     
  15. Beakermania*

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    I like the picks, only one minor change for me; i would just switch Hull and Lemieux, seeing as the Gretzky/Lemieux connection was so great in 87 and we can assume they would have some chemistry.

    Also i would take out Mahovolic and put in Yzerman at his prime as a spare, but again its just nitpicking.
     
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    i wish i knew enough about russian hockey talent throughouth history.........unfortunately i don't.


    Also it's very hard to compare russian players to canadian because they played in such different surroundings.

    I've heard some people say that Khalarmov's (the guy who's ankle clarke broke) skating ability, scoring instincts, etc exceeded even gretzky's.......and in terms of passing instinct and peripheral visions some people have said larionov had gretzky topped.

    I couldn't honestly say..........


    In the same vein it's very hard to compare Tretiak to roy, sawchuk, etc
     

  17. I have heard that Kharlamov's ability exceeded everyone but Gretzky's and Lemieux's.

    But yes, the Russians would be loaded if they made an all-time team.

    I don't much abiout their goaltending other than Tretiak and the current NHLer's.

    I don't know much about their defense either other than Fetisov, Kasatanov, and the current NHLer's.

    But some of their forwards are legendary internationally.

    You could form their forward lines based on their all-decade top lines:

    1970's line: Mikhalov - Petrov - Kharlamov
    1980's line: Krutov - Larionov - Makarov
    1990's line: Mogilny - Fedorov - Bure

    Then their next line would be merely speculative, with their big star from the 50's and 60's centering it:

    2000's line: Kovalchuk - Firsov - Ovechkin


    That is a lot of talent.
     
  18. Kronblom

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    Now we are talking hockey players...

    :handclap: :bow:
     
  19. wilka91*

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    And don't forget ... Vsevolod Bobrov. He played in the 1950s and coached in the 60s and 70s.
    This guy was unbelievable because not only he was the top Soviet scorer in ice hockey, but he was also the country's best soccer player!!! :lol
     
  20. psycho_dad*

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    I'd have to agree. It was amazing hockey. So far from the game we see now, both in style and level.
     
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    I think I'm gonna buy it @ Amazon.ca

    Did anyone buy those tapes? Are these the full 3 games?

    >>> LINK <<<
     
  22. John Flyers Fan

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    Yes, they are the full games. I own them all on tape from the actual games not bought. My tapes are getting a bit worn, I'm hoping they come out on DVD real soon.
     
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    Here is my soviet/russian team:

    Yakushev-Starshinov-Firsov
    Kharlamov-Petrov-Mikhailov
    Krutov-Maltsev-Makarov
    Bure-Fedorov-Mogilny
     
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    And we weren't talking hockey players with regards to Gretzky, Hull, Howe, Lemieux, Esposito, Richard, Morenz, Beliveau, Lafleur, Messier, Mikita, Bossy, Lindsay, Clarke, Mahovlich, Orr, Shore, Bourque, Harvey, Kelly, Potvin, Robinson, Coffey, Roy, Sawchuck, Plante????
     
  25. colonel_korn

    colonel_korn Luuuuuuuuuu....lay?

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    No, "Blades of Summer" does not include the full games. It's pretty much an hour-long highlight video of the tournament, that was put out by Labatt's I believe. (I own it)

    It's still a pretty good video (it focusses mainly on Canada, though it does show highlights from other round-robin and elimination games). But as far as I know the actual games have not been commercially released on video. (Unlike the '72 series)
     
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