All-Time Province Teams

[Scandale du Jour]

Jean Beliveau was not born in Montreal, but Trois-Rivieres.

And Gilbert Perreault is from Victoriaville, not Montreal.

 

[Be a Hab]

Québec:

Michael Bossy – Mario Lemieux – Maurice « Rocket » Richard
Marcel Dionne - Jean B̩liveau РGuy Lafleur
Édouard « Newsy » Lalonde - Gilbert Perreault – Michel Goulet
Luc Robitaille – Denis Savard – Claude « Pépé » Lemieux

Raymond Bourque – Denis Potvin
Guy Lapointe - Doug Harvey
Serge Savard – Émile « Butch » Bouchard

Patrick Roy – Martin Brodeur

Very nice Team !

 

[doakacola*]

Team New York

Erik Cole - Craig Conroy - Joe Mullen
Dustin Brown - Todd Marchant - Brian Gionta
Chris Higgins - Billy Burch - Brian Mullen
Nick Fotiu - Tim Connolly - Patrick Kane
[ - Marty Reasoner - Lee Stempniak / Ryan Callahan / Patrick Kaleta]

Mathieu Schneider - Aaron Miller
Jack Brownschidle - Rob Scuderi
Francis Bouillon - Mike Komisarek
[Zach Bogosian]

Jimmy Howard
Guy Hebert
[Robert Esche / Mike Dunham]

Dude, Schneider lived in NJ until age 12 then moved to Rhode Island. Bouillion was born in NY but grew up in Canada.

Nick Fotiu has zero business being in the top 12.

 

[doakacola*]

Team Minnesota

Zach Parise - Neil Broten - Dave Christian
Aaron Broten - David Backes - Jamie Langenbrunner
Jason Blake - Joel Otto - Mark Parrish
Tom Chorske - Matt Cullen - Paul Homgren
[Steve Jensen - Mark Pavelich / Derek Plante - Tommy Williams / Trent Klatt]

Phil Housley - Mike Ramsey
Reed Larson - Brett Hedican
Tom Kurvers - Jim Korn
[Jordan Leopold / Keith Ballard / Jim Johnson / Sean Hill]

Frankie Brimsek
Mike Karakas
[Jon Casey]

Your omission of John Mayasich and Henry Boucha is beyond belief. Please explain the omission of Steve Christoff, Gary Sargent & Bill Nyrop.

 

[doakacola*]

Team Massachusetts

G - Barrasso, Carey, Dipietro

D - Langway, O'Connell, Whitney, Dunn, O'Callahan, Norton, Fusco


F - Carpenter, Amonte, S. Young, Ftorek, Bill Cleary, Guerin, Tkachuk, Fitzgerald,
Rowe, Fidler, McEachern, Stevens, Fusco



Most people claim Roenick is a Mass player, he was born in Boston, but he lived in Conn until at least he was 12, then moved to Mass at about age 14. I don't consider him a Mass kid.

 

[Warfunkel]

British Columbia

Paul Kariya - Joe Sakic - Mark Recchi
Geoff Courtnall - Steve Yzerman - Russ Courtnall
Greg Adams - Peter McNab - Cam Neely
Ryan Walter - Cliff Ronning - Glenn Anderson

Jimmy Watson - Joe Watson
Doug Bodger - Barry Beck
Doug Lidster - Jon Klemm

Carey Price
Andy Moog
Wade Flaherty

 

[BubbaBoot]

Your omission of John Mayasich and Henry Boucha is beyond belief. Please explain the omission of Steve Christoff, Gary Sargent & Bill Nyrop.

First off, I'm not from Minnesota so I don't have a complete knowledge of the history.
Second off, I used stats from Hockey Reference and what little i can remember from watching them in the past.
Third off, I tried to line them up according to position. Some may be playing off wing but I tried to keep them as close to their playing positions.
Fourth off, no one had come up with a Minnesota team (or a lot of others I posted) and thought it would be fun to put one together and create some debate/interest, so lighten up.

I don't know John Mayasich at all. From what I've read since I checked he seems like a damn good player.

Henry Boucha and Steve Christoff are centers. They don't even come close to the numbers or playing experience of those I listed before them.

Bill Nyrop was not listed in the Hockey Reference as being from Minnesota in the Frivolties / NHL birthplaces window and is in fact listed as having been born in Washington, DC. I can't take into account where the players spent most of their childhood. Do you really think he could stack up against those defensemen I listed? And out of curiosity, whre was he between 1979 to 1981?

Gary Sargent is closest to any of these guys that should've been considered.

 

[BubbaBoot]

Dude, Schneider lived in NJ until age 12 then moved to Rhode Island. Bouillion was born in NY but grew up in Canada.

Nick Fotiu has zero business being in the top 12.

Again, I have no control over who spent their childhood where....going only by where they were born.

There are only 85 total players born in NY that have played in the NHL. Fotiu is a LWer with 650 NHL games experience . For pure talent there were better players from him. His talent was fighting, hence the reason why he's the 4th line winger, yet he still managed to score 60 goals. Maybe Nick Foligno or Eric Nystrom should be picked over him but if they were to disappear today, should they still be picked over Fotiu?

As I said, I tried to use the players in their natural positions. New York is comparatively loaded on the RW. Those listed as subs are better than Fotiu talentwise and could easily take over on the LW, as many do in the NHL today where wingers seem often interchangeable on either side.

Again, just fodder for debate, don't get yer panties in an uproar.

 

[BubbaBoot]

Team Massachusetts

G - Barrasso, Carey, Dipietro

D - Langway, O'Connell, Whitney, Dunn, O'Callahan, Norton, Fusco


F - Carpenter, Amonte, S. Young, Ftorek, Bill Cleary, Guerin, Tkachuk, Fitzgerald,
Rowe, Fidler, McEachern, Stevens, Fusco



Most people claim Roenick is a Mass player, he was born in Boston, but he lived in Conn until at least he was 12, then moved to Mass at about age 14. I don't consider him a Mass kid.

And to take a page out of your book, where's Darren Turcotte, Mike Milbury, Jay Pandolfo, Dave Silk, etc....

Tom Rowe? A journeyman with 1 30 goal season and a -80 career over say defensive forward specialist Doug Brown who played 14 years with 160 goals and a career +112? Hell, I'd pick Chris Nilan over him....

Mark Fusco? Really? He of 80 NHL games? Over Milbury, Yandle, Gilll, Stanton, Poti, etc.... Really?

Is that Mike O'Connell listed as a defensemen? He was born in Chicago. Is it because he grew up in Cohasset after living in Cleveland? How different is that from Roenick?

Semantics.....sigh.....*

 

[doakacola*]

And to take a page out of your book, where's Darren Turcotte, Mike Milbury, Jay Pandolfo, Dave Silk, etc....

Tom Rowe? A journeyman with 1 30 goal season and a -80 career over say defensive forward specialist Doug Brown who played 14 years with 160 goals and a career +112? Hell, I'd pick Chris Nilan over him....

Mark Fusco? Really? He of 80 NHL games? Over Milbury, Yandle, Gilll, Stanton, Poti, etc.... Really?

Is that Mike O'Connell listed as a defensemen? He was born in Chicago. Is it because he grew up in Cohasset after living in Cleveland? How different is that from Roenick?

Semantics.....sigh.....*

First Turcotte never grew up in Mass Bubba.

Mark Fusco is in the US Hockey Hall of fame, where is Mike Milbury? Case closed.

Tom Rowe in 1978-79 set the record for goals by an American born player with 31 in only 69 games at the age of 23. It placed him roughly #26 in the entire NHL. Rowe suffered injuries the following season and never regained his goal scoring abilities. Healthy he had the capability to become a consistent 30 goal scorer and may have maxed out at 40. Rowe was fast, good sized and had a good shot. Rowe and Nilan were within two years of each other growing up in Greater Boston and you would get
no one outside of Nilans family and friends that would have remotley put Nilan in Rowe's class in high school, college, juniors and thru when Rowe suffered injuries. I've seen every Massachusett kid fom Hebner to Kreider and I can tell you right now at his peak Rowe would have been considered a top 9 forward on any Mass All-time team no questions asked.

O'Connell played the majority of his youth hockey in Mass, he's a Mass kid.

 

[doakacola*]

First off, I'm not from Minnesota so I don't have a complete knowledge of the history.
Second off, I used stats from Hockey Reference and what little i can remember from watching them in the past.
Third off, I tried to line them up according to position. Some may be playing off wing but I tried to keep them as close to their playing positions.
Fourth off, no one had come up with a Minnesota team (or a lot of others I posted) and thought it would be fun to put one together and create some debate/interest, so lighten up.

I don't know John Mayasich at all. From what I've read since I checked he seems like a damn good player.

Henry Boucha and Steve Christoff are centers. They don't even come close to the numbers or playing experience of those I listed before them.

Bill Nyrop was not listed in the Hockey Reference as being from Minnesota in the Frivolties / NHL birthplaces window and is in fact listed as having been born in Washington, DC. I can't take into account where the players spent most of their childhood. Do you really think he could stack up against those defensemen I listed? And out of curiosity, whre was he between 1979 to 1981?

Gary Sargent is closest to any of these guys that should've been considered.

Bill Nyrop was raised in Edina, Minn Bubba.

Steve Christoff was the Minnesota version of Tom Rowe.

 

[BubbaBoot]

Your not one of those "Obama Ain't American" guys are you?



Again, it's semantics.... If you're born in the USA, you can be president, even if you lived in another foreign country for a predominant part of your life....you're still an American.

If your born in say, Austria, (like AHNOLD), you can't become president, even if you're naturalized.

Then again, the carpetbagging Mitt Romney became guv of MA even though he spent most of his years outside the state and moved back only for opportunity

So, really, it's all about semantics....who is a "native" of a particular state or province? One who's born there or one who grew up there?

First Turcotte never grew up in Mass Bubba.

He was born in Boston, hence he MA born, a native. I know it's but semantics but this is where he was born.

Mark Fusco is in the US Hockey Hall of fame, where is Mike Milbury? Case closed.

Fusco played a grand total of 80 games in the NHL, (the premier hockey league on the planet) scored a grand total of 15 points and was a -21. He played at Harvard for 4 years and was on the US National team and olympics for a grand total of 56 games and 28 total points.

Milbury on the other hand, played 754 NHL games over 11 years, with 238 total points and was a career +173 after two years at Colgate, two+ years in the AHL and represented the USA in the Canada Cup in 76-77.

Paul Stanton has two rings with the Penguins and 5 NHL years, played professionally until he 37, in the highest leagues in Sweden and Germany, a defenseman who scored over 600 points.

Are you serious?

Tom Rowe in 1978-79 set the record for goals by an American born player with 31 in only 69 games at the age of 23. It placed him roughly #26 in the entire NHL. Rowe suffered injuries the following season and never regained his goal scoring abilities. Healthy he had the capability to become a consistent 30 goal scorer and may have maxed out at 40. Rowe was fast, good sized and had a good shot. Rowe and Nilan were within two years of each other growing up in Greater Boston and you would get
no one outside of Nilans family and friends that would have remotley put Nilan in Rowe's class in high school, college, juniors and thru when Rowe suffered injuries. I've seen every Massachusett kid fom Hebner to Kreider and I can tell you right now at his peak Rowe would have been considered a top 9 forward on any Mass All-time team no questions asked.

Woulda, shoulda, coulda....you got a few years brilliance over a consistent entity of longevity. Like saying Tony Conigliaro was better than Carl Yastrzemski.

By your standard of potential, Gord Kluzak and Al Iafrate should be in the HoF maybe?

1990-1991 - Rookie Ken Hodge Jr out scored every rookie in the NHL except for Sergei Federov. He scored more goals than Jagr, Sundin, Holik, Reichel, Ricci, Bondra, Owen Nolan, Draper, Leclair, etc.... Who was the better player? The short term excellence that was Junior or the long term Jagr or Leclair?

O'Connell played the majority of his youth hockey in Mass, he's a Mass kid.

Again, semantics....he grew up in MA, but he wasn't born here.... Again, how different is Roenicke from O'Connell....by just a few years? And what of MA natives who spend their hockey years at Mt St Charles? What about NH natives who move here to go to JV and Varsity hockey at CM?

I'm obviously not as hard core a rink rat as you are, not do I have privy to the same info as you, yet some of the comparisons here just don't make any sense.

This is not an arts based, subjective comparison of genius. Sports is a stat driven, reward based entity.....does a brief spurt of brilliance outshine the model career of consistent excellence to craft?

 

[flames4cup2012]

alberta

lanny macdonald-messier-iginla
bucyk-ullman-linden
doan-lysiak-craven
sutter-sutter-sutter

neidermayer-gadsby
bouwmeester-green
phaneuf-sydor

fuhr-osgood

 

[tony d]

Newfoundland

Tony White-Alex Faulkner-Danny Cleary
Darren Langdon-Harold Druken-Michael Ryder
Don Howse-Jason King-Ryane Clowe
Dwayne Norris-Jason Morgan-Teddy Purcell

Keith Brown-John Slaney
Brad Brown-Adam Pardy
Joe Lundrigan-Bob Gladney

Doug Grant
Dan Lacosta

 

[HabsByTheBay]

Mark Fusco is in the US Hockey Hall of fame, where is Mike Milbury? Case closed.

Um, also in the US Hockey Hall of Fame? What a bizarre appeal to authority, especially when you're completely wrong.