All-Time Province Teams

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  1. Blades of Glory

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    Or state. Although I'm pretty sure Massachusetts and Minnesota are the only two states that you could actually make a team for. You probably have to mess around with positions when it comes to Quebec and Ontario.

    Saskatchwan:

    Sid Abel-Bryan Trottier-Gordie Howe
    Doug Bentley-Max Bentley-Theo Fleury
    Bert Olmstead-Elmer Lach-Brian Propp
    Harry Watson-Bernie Federko-Clark Gillies

    Eddie Shore-Brad Mccrimmon
    Fern Flaman-Lyle Odelein
    Bob Baun-Ron Greschner

    Glenn Hall
    Johnny Bower

    Quite the top line and decent depth overall. That defense was tough to choose after Shore, Mccrimmon, and Flaman. Nice goaltending.
     
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    Québec:

    Michael Bossy – Mario Lemieux – Maurice « Rocket » Richard
    Marcel Dionne - Jean B̩liveau РGuy Lafleur
    Édouard « Newsy » Lalonde - Gilbert Perreault – Michel Goulet
    Luc Robitaille – Denis Savard – Claude « Pépé » Lemieux

    Raymond Bourque – Denis Potvin
    Guy Lapointe - Doug Harvey
    Serge Savard – Émile « Butch » Bouchard

    Patrick Roy – Martin Brodeur
     
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    Ontario. Likely missed a few, and I cheated on some positions, sue me. I'm not much of a historian.

    Bobby Hull-Wayne Gretzky-Brett Hull
    Frank Mahovlich-Phil Esposito-Mike Gartner
    Ted Lindsay-Ron Francis-Rick Tocchet
    Darryl Sittler- Eric Lindros-Adam Oates

    Bobby Orr-Larry Robinson
    Paul Coffey-Scott Stevens
    Denis Potvin-Larry Murphy
    Brad Park


    Ken Dryden
    Tony Esposito
     
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    How many times a day are we going to have this thread?
     
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    It's never enough, haha.

    My Team Ontario:

    Ted Lindsay - Wayne Gretzky - Charlie Conacher
    Bobby Hull - Stan Mikita - Bill Cook
    Frank Mahovlich - Howie Morenz - Cyclone Taylor
    Bob Gainey - Frank Nighbor - Hooley Smith
    (best checking line ever)

    Bobby Orr - Denis Potvin
    Larry Robinson - Red Kelly
    Brad Park - Scott Stevens

    Ken Dryden
    Clint Benedict
    Bill Durnan​
     
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    Lalonde and Potvin are from Ontario.

    Quebec obviously has plenty of other options though.

    Bernie Geoffrion, Pierre Pilote, Joe Malone, Sprague Cleghorn, etc could all be on the team.

    Claude Lemieux? ;)
     
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    The Ontario team is easily superior to any other all time national team, and wouldn't be completely outclassed by an all time team from the rest of the provinces. The all time teams for the Atlantic provinces, even if you put them together, would hardly match up with any other province or major national team though.
     
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    Lowell MacDonald - Bobby Smith - Doug Sulliman
    Jon Sim - Parker MacDonald - Tony Currie
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    [Bill Riley]

    Al MacInnis - Flash Hollett
    Colin White - Paul Boutilier
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    Pokey Reddick
    Joey MacDonald
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    Yeah....Gretz, Orr, Hull and Dryden?

    Game over man.
     
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    Colin White - Don Sweeney
    [George Allen / Dave Pichette]

    Rollie Melanson
    Garry Simmons
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    Unbelievable top 6 defenseman:
    Bobby Orr - Denis Potvin
    Larry Robinson - Red Kelly
    Brad Park - Scott Stevens

    How about this for the B team defensemen:
    Paul Coffey - Larry Murphy
    Doug Wilson - Tim Horton
    Harry Howell - King Clancy

    Or C team:
    Rob Blake - Chris Pronger
    Allen Stanley - Lionel Conacher
    Leo Boivin - Bill Quakenbush

    ...and there's still 6 or so more HoFers not even listed yet.

    Bloody sick.....
     
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    Steve Shutt - Dale Hawerchuk - Rick Middleton
    Busher Jackson - Dennis Maruk - Mike Murphy
    Roy Conacher - Paul Gardner - Charlie Conacher
    Adam Graves - Hooley Smith - John Anderson
    [LW - Brad May / Steve Payne / Steve Vickers]
    [C - Gerry Meehan / Michael Peca / Keith Primeau / Syl Apps / Peter Zezel / Mel Bridgeman / Kris Draper]
    [RW - Mike Knuble / Fred Stanfield / Tony Tanti / Mark Napier / Gary Leeman / Billy Harris / Pat Flately / Anson Carter]

    Brad Park - Bill Quakenbush
    Lionel Conacher - Bruce Driver
    Dave Roberts - Craig Muni
    [Bill White / Warren Godfrey / Adam Foote / Carl Brewer]

    George Hainsworth
    Roy Worters
    Bill Durnan
     
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    John Ogrodnick - Rod Brind'Amour - Mike Gartner
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    Mike Corrigan - Mike Bullard - Tim Higgins
    Stew Gavin - Frank Boucher - Matthew Barnaby
    [Bill Collins - Dan Quinn / Marc Savard - Punch Broadbent]

    Denis Potvin - King Clancy
    Ebbie Goodfellow - Doug Wilson
    Jeff Brown - Georges Boucher
    [Dan Boyle - Adrian Aucoin - Hap Day]

    Clint Benedict
    Alec Connell
    [John Davidson / Wayne Thomas]
     
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    Luc Robitaille - Mario Lemieux - Maurice Richard
    Dickie Moore - Gilbert Perrault - Mike Bossy
    Tony McKegney - Jean Beliveau - Bernie Geoffrion
    Don Marshall - Nels Stewart - Rod Gilbert
    [Sylvain Turgeon - Henri Richard / Vincent Damphousse - Scott Mellanby / Bobby Rousseau / Claude Provost / Mario Tremblay]

    Raymond Bourque - Doug Harvey
    Guy Lapointe - Sprague Cleghorn
    Serge Savard - Sylvio Mantha
    [Carol Vadnais - Butch Bouchard - Garry Galley - Gilles Marotte - Ian Turnbull - Robert Picard]

    Martin Brodeur
    Bernioe Parent
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    Jean Beliveau was not born in Montreal, but Trois-Rivieres.
     
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    Doh! Your right.....oh well, I guess Team Montreal has to go with Henri Richard instead.
     
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    Mathieu Schneider - Aaron Miller
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    Jimmy Howard
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    Larry Robinson could possibly be added, since he's from around the Ottawa area. Not too sure though.
     
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    Tim Thomas
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    i think team quebec could compete. team ontario obviously has the depth to field two, maybe three, elite teams, but team quebec has the high end talent to at least keep up. between beliveau, richard, lafleur, geoffrion, mario, bossy, dionne, plus harvey, bourque, and some other high end d-men, and two of the top five goalies ever, that's quite a team.

    i don't have it in me to put together an entire BC team, part of it is because i'm unsure of the criteria. yzerman was born in BC but grew up near ottawa, so i wouldn't count him. meanwhile, rod brind'amour was born in ottawa and raised in BC and scott niedermayer was born in edmonton but raised in kamloops. hall of famer joe primeau was also born in ontario but raised in BC.

    brett hull is greyer area. he was born in ontario and lived in chicago and winnipeg as a kid, but he moved to north vancouver in his early teens and played junior in penticton, BC before going to college in minnesota.

    off the top of my head: sakic, neely, glenn anderson, recchi, kariya, the courtnalls. the best goalie i can think of is andy moog. not great. defensemen are also tough to come by. barry beck?
     
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    Quebec is definitely close. They do have an edge in net, but I wouldn't say the difference between Roy/Plante and Dryden is a game-changer. Ontario having Gretzky AND Orr is an edge that's hard to overcome, and Ontario's D has a clear edge IMO despite Quebec having a damn good D of their own. Forward talent is pretty close at the top ends, but Ontario has better depth IMO.

    It's interesting that Ontario dominates this matchup at LW, while Quebec clearly has the edge at RW.

    Man, they need to make a video game where you can play with every player in the Hall of Fame or something. I love this stuff.

    Tiny Thompson was born BC but grew up in Calgary, so I think Moog might be the best tender who's actually from BC. Cesare Maniago was from BC as well by the looks of it. And Olaf Kolzig might have kinda grown up in BC or something? I've never really figured out his life story.

    Like you were discussing earlier, I think it just makes sense to list where players grew up instead of where they happened to be born. It does get tough with a guy like Brett Hull, or now Duncan Keith (born in MB, grew up in Ontario until he was 14, and then moved to BC).

    Jimmy and Joe Watson are a couple pretty good defensemen from BC. And Scott Niedermayer would count as BC since he grew up there. Along with Beck, that's a decent start. Guys like Scott Hannan and Willie Mitchell have had really solid careers. And Weber and Seabrook will probably be there someday, although it might be a little early yet (or maybe not).
     
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    The gap in defencemen is pretty large in Ontario's favour. Ontario's #6 defenceman (Park/Coffey) is quite a bit better than Quebec's #3 (Pilote I guess). Quebec definitely has a team that can compete, but I can't imagine them beating Ontario in a seven game series for instance. Give Quebec Saskatchewan's best players and you would have two pretty equal teams.
     
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    I feel like Ryane Clowe could slide in there over guys like Sim
     

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