All-Time Face of the Franchise

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  1. mydogsparty

    mydogsparty Greatness Personified

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    Help me nominate candidates. Here's a start:

    Devils: Scott Stevens, Martin Brodeur
    Islanders: Denis Potvin, Mike Bossy, Bryan Trottier
    Rangers: Brian Leetch, Bill Cook
    Flyers: Bobby Clarke, Mike Richards
    Penguins: Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr, Sidney Crosby
    Bruins: Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Dit Clapper, Eddie Shore
    Sabres: Dominik Hasek, Gilbert Perreault, Ryan Miller, Pat LaFontaine
    Canadiens: Maurice Richard, Jean Beliveau, Jacques Plante, Henri Richard
    Senators: Daniel Alfredsson
    Maple Leafs: George Armstrong, Dave Keon, Darryl Sittler, Mat Sundin
    Thrashers: Ilya Kovalchuk
    Hurricanes: Rod Brind'Amour, Ron Francis
    Panthers: Scott Mellanby, Olli Jokinen
    Lightning: Vincent Lecalier, Martin St.Louis, Steven Stamkos
    Capitals: Peter Bondra, Alex Ovechkin, Rod Langway
    Blackhawks: Bobby Hull, Tony Esposito, Stan Mikita, Jonathan Toews
    Blue Jackets: Rick Nash
    Red Wings: Gordie Howe, Steve Yzerman, Terry Sawchuk, Nicklas Lidstrom, Alex Delvecchio
    Predators: David Legwand, Greg Johnson
    Blues: Brett Hull
    Flames: Jarome Iginla, Theo Fleury
    Avalanche: Joe Sakic, Peter Forsberg, Patrick Roy
    Oilers: Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey
    Wild: Marian Gaborik
    Canucks: Trevor Linden
    Ducks: Teemu Selani, Paul Kariya
    Stars: Mike Modano
    Kings: Dave Taylor
    Coyotes: Shane Doan
    Sharks: Owen Nolan, Patrick Marleau
     
  2. WingsFan95

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    Yzerman and Howe are the only contenders for face of the Wings.

    I'd like to give Yzerman the edge because he never played for any other team and had more playoff success but that's subjective.

    Canadiens don't have one, too many to consider.

    I'd nominate Bure for the Canucks.

    Lemieux for the Pens is just not debatable in my mind.
     
  3. TheDevilMadeMe

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    Maurice Richard is the face of the Canadiens even today.

    What about Ted Kennedy as a candidate for the Maple Leafs?
     
  4. vancityluongo

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    Devils: Scott Stevens, Martin Brodeur, Patrik Elias
    Islanders: Denis Potvin, Mike Bossy, Bryan Trottier
    Rangers: Mark Messier, Brian Leetch, Bill Cook
    Flyers: Bobby Clarke, Bernie Parent
    Penguins: Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr, Sidney Crosby
    Bruins: Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Phil Esposito, Eddie Shore
    Sabres: Dominik Hasek, Gilbert Perreault, Ryan Miller, Pat LaFontaine
    Canadiens: Maurice Richard, Jean Beliveau, Jacques Plante, Henri Richard
    Senators: Daniel Alfredsson
    Maple Leafs: George Armstrong, Dave Keon, Darryl Sittler, Mats Sundin, Ted Kennedy
    Thrashers: Ilya Kovalchuk
    Hurricanes: Rod Brind'Amour, Ron Francis, Eric Staal
    Panthers: Scott Mellanby, Olli Jokinen, Pavel Bure, Roberto Luongo
    Lightning: Vincent Lecalier, Martin St.Louis, Steven Stamkos
    Capitals: Peter Bondra, Alex Ovechkin, Rod Langway
    Blackhawks: Bobby Hull, Tony Esposito, Stan Mikita, Jonathan Toews
    Blue Jackets: Rick Nash
    Red Wings: Gordie Howe, Steve Yzerman, Terry Sawchuk, Nicklas Lidstrom, Alex Delvecchio
    Predators: David Legwand, Greg Johnson
    Blues: Brett Hull, Keith Tkachuk
    Flames: Jarome Iginla, Theo Fleury, Lanny MacDonald
    Avalanche: Joe Sakic, Peter Forsberg, Patrick Roy
    Oilers: Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Ryan Smyth
    Wild: Marian Gaborik
    Canucks: Trevor Linden
    Ducks: Teemu Selanne, Paul Kariya, JS Giguere
    Stars: Mike Modano
    Kings: Dave Taylor, Marcel Dionne, Wayne Gretzky
    Coyotes: Shane Doan
    Sharks: Owen Nolan, Patrick Marleau, Joe Thornton

    My choices in bold, any HM's the OP didn't mention italicized.
     
  5. Johnny Engine

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    Where's Messier as the face of the Rangers?
    I want to send over a :handclap: that you're astute enough to know what a big deal Bill Cook was, but really, I think there are very few people who you'd say "Face of the Rangers" to, who wouldn't immediately think this:

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    Johnny Bower sticks out to me as a figure in Leafs history, mostly because he started his career in his late fifties, and is now 260 years old (that's accurate, right?), and the Leafs have had quite a few gritty veteran teams in their best years.

    Clarke is definitely head and shoulders over any Flyer, but I think of both Lindros and Hextall before Richards.

    Those were good choices for the Islanders, but unfortunately, when I think of the Islanders I think of Dipietro, Milbury and Yashin. Blech.

    Gretzky is still the face of the Kings, more so than Taylor, but Marcel Dionne is what I think of when I think about purple and yellow kings.

    When I think about the Panthers, I think about John Vanbiesbrouk, or more specifically his mask.

    The fact that Greg Johnson is mentioned for the Predators is baffling, but it's even more baffling that I find it hard to argue with.
     
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    My list:

    Devils: Martin Brodeur/Scott Stevens
    Islanders: Bryan Trottier/Denis Potvin
    Rangers: Mark Messier
    Flyers: Bobby Clarke/Eric Lindros
    Penguins: Mario Lemieux
    Bruins: Bobby Orr
    Sabres: Dominik Hasek/Gilbert Perreault
    Canadiens: Maurice Richard/Jean Beliveau
    Senators: Daniel Alfredsson
    Maple Leafs: Mats Sundin
    Thrashers: Ilya Kovalchuk
    Hurricanes: Ron Francis
    Panthers: Pavel Bure
    Lightning: Vincent Lecavalier
    Capitals: Alex Ovechkin
    Blackhawks: Bobby Hull
    Blue Jackets: Rick Nash
    Red Wings: Gordie Howe
    Predators: David Legwand
    Blues: Brett Hull
    Flames: Jarome Iginla
    Avalanche: Joe Sakic/Patrick Roy
    Oilers: Wayne Gretzky
    Wild: Marian Gaborik
    Canucks: Trevor Linden
    Ducks: Teemu Selanne/Paul Kariya
    Stars: Mike Modano
    Kings: Marcel Dionne
    Coyotes: Shane Doan
    Sharks: Owen Nolan
     
  7. SwolePatrol

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    i think mcinnis and pronger deserve to be hm for the blues.

    and the sharks face should be nabby or thornton.
     
  8. TheDevilMadeMe

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    I think the Blues could be Federko and Marleau could be the Sharks
     
  9. Reverend Mayhem

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    Ducks - Teemu Selanne
    Kings - Wayne Gretzky
    Coyotes - Keith Tkachuk
    Stars - Mike Modano
    Sharks - Patrick Marleau

    Avalanche - Joe Sakic
    Wild - Marian Gaborik*
    Canucks - Trevor Linden
    Flames - Jarome Iginla
    Oilers - Wayne Gretzky

    Red Wings - Steve Yzerman
    Blues - Bernie Federko
    Blackhawks - Stan Mikita
    Blue Jackets - Rick Nash
    Predators - Barry Trotz

    Thrashers - Ilya Kovalchuk*
    Hurricanes - Rod Brind' Amour
    Panthers - Pavel Bure*
    Lightning - Vincent Lecavalier
    Capitals - Alex Ovechkin

    Bruins - Bobby Orr
    Sabres - Gilbert Perreault
    Maple Leafs - Darryl Sittler
    Senators - Daniel Alfredsson
    Canadiens - Rocket Richard

    Flyers - Bobby Clarke
    Penguins - Mario Lemieux
    Islanders - Mike Bossy
    Rangers - Mark Messier
    Devils - Martin Brodeur

    The *'s mean I didn't want to award one, but felt obligated to.
     
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    12Kerr Let's go Flyers

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    a few changes I'd make:

    1.) Ron Francis was the face of the Hartford Whalers not Hurricanes imho and Rod Brind'amour was the face of the Hurricanes.

    2.) Bernie Federko was the face of the Blues not Brett Hull imho

    3.) Brian Leetch was the Rangers not Messier
     
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    A lot of this could be debated relative to an era. In my generation for instance sundin was by far the face of the leafs, however in someone else it could be sittler. Another example is the penguins. Although mario lemieux is easily the franchises all time best player and face, in todays game kids not only look to crosby as the face of the penguins, but the entire nhl. You could argue even that crosby has been more marketed and "branded" than lemieux ever was for the pens.
     
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    Mike Richards?

    Hextall, Parent, Lindros, Propp, all over him.
     
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    I feel like the Wild could have Backstrom as the lesser-face of the franchise
     
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    Anyone who thinks Messier is all time face of the Rangers must not know anything about the Rangers. The guy fled to Vancouver after 97 for more money, then came back and let his ego drive the franchise into the ground. Also, considering that most people know nothing about guys like Bill Cook or Frank Boucher, the choices for all time face of the franchise come down to Leetch, Mike Ritcher, Rod Gilbert and Eddie Giacomin.
     
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    Though his coaching stint with them was terrible, I got to say John Maclean should be the face of the New Jersey Devils franchise or a contender for it.
     
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    If you do not know why Messier is the face of the Rangers franchise, you probably don't know much about New York. He is one of the most beloved athletes in the history of that city. It is irrelevant how his career ended. After 1994, Messier was catapulted to the very top of New York sports and he never will never lose his spot. Leetch and Richter were immensely popular, but Messier became a cultural icon after that Stanley Cup victory. He was a polarizing figure that captivated the city and ended 54 years of frustration for a team that played in the very heart of Manhattan. He is widely considered one of the top five New York athletes in the last 50 years. Few hockey players have ever left such an indelible legacy on the big stage as Messier did in New York. I have a hard time believing too many Rangers fans believe Rod Gilbert or Ed Giacomin to be more of a "face" of the franchise than Messier.

    The term "face" of the franchise does not always mean the player that spent the most time with the team. When most people think of the Rangers, they think of Messier holding the Stanley Cup.
     
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    Ron Fracis is Great Choice for the Whalers/Hurricanes, but i think Kevin Dineen is a better one
     
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    Anaheim Ducks/Mighty Ducks of Anaheim - Paul Kariya
    Atlanta Thrasher - Mark Chipman (This one was bound to be a joke.)
    Boston Bruins - Bobby Orr
    Buffalo Sabres - Gilbert Perreault
    Calgary Flames - Jerome Iginla
    Carolina Hurricanes - Rod Brind'Amour
    Chicago Blackhawks - Bobby Hull
    Colorado Avalanche - Joe Sakic
    Columbus Blue Jackets - Rick Nash
    Dallas Stars - Mike Modano
    Detroit Red Wings - Gordie Howe
    Edmonton Oilers - Wayne Gretzky
    Florida Panthers - John Vanbiesbrouck
    L.A. Kings - Wayne Gretzky
    Minnesota Wild - Marian Gaborik
    Montreal Canadiens - Maurice Richard
    Nashville Predators - David Legwand
    New Jersey Devils - Martin Broduer
    N.Y. Islanders - Bryan Trottier
    N.Y. Rangers - Mark Messier
    Ottawa Senators - Daniel Alfredsson
    Philadelphia Flyers - Bobby Clarke
    Phoenix Coyotes -Shane Doan
    Pittsburg Penguins - Mario Lemieux
    San Jose Sharks - Patrick Marleau
    St. Louis - Blues - Bernie Federko
    Tampa Bay Lightning - Vincent Lecavelier
    Toronto Maple Leafs - George Armstrong
    Vancouver Canucks - Trevor Linden
    Washington Capitals - Peter Bondra

    Atlanta Flames - Tom Lysiak
    California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons - Al MacAdam
    Colorado Rockies/Kansas City Scouts - Wilf Paiement
    Hartford Whalers - Ron Francis
    Minnesota North Stars - Dino Ciccarelli
    Quebec Nordiques - Peter Stastny
    Winnipeg Jets - Bobby Hull
     
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    Devils: Brodeur
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    Bruins: Orr
    Sabres: Perreault
    Canadiens: Richard
    Senators: Alfredsson
    Maple Leafs: Sittler
    Thrashers: Kovalchuk
    Hurricanes: Brind'Amour
    Panthers: Collectively, the 1996 team
    Lightning: Lecavalier
    Capitals: Ovechkin
    Blackhawks: Savard
    Blue Jackets: Nash
    Red Wings: Howe
    Predators: Trotz
    Blues: Hull
    Flames: Fleury
    Avalanche: Sakic
    Oilers: Gretzky
    Wild: Gaborik
    Canucks: Linden
    Ducks: Selanne
    Stars: Modano
    Kings: Gretzky
    Coyotes: Doan
    Sharks: Marleau

    Nordiques: Bergeron
    North Stars: Broten
    Jets: Steen
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    Saw a few people that did not put Bobby Hull for the Blackhawks. Even though he left the franchise and other players have played more games and/or scored more points, Hull has the heart of Blackhawk nation. He always gets the biggest ovations and is clearly the most popular player.
     

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