All-time draft by talent level (not by best career or best vs era)?

[tinyzombies]

Has HoH ever done a true draft matched to current standards? It's also a history project because it places players of the past in their true slots versus contemporary players. For instance, I don't think anyone has matched the pinnacle of goaltending performance of a Carey Price, even if it was only 3 years. Maybe Hasek is the closest?

A top 5 could be:
1. Mario Lemieux
2. Connor McDavid
3. Bobby Orr
4. Sid Crosby
5. Gordie Howe

etc.

Not saying that's the order, but why has there never been a REAL draft? There is probably no one better to do it than this group.

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[tinyzombies]

Would it be fair to not give them upgrades that current players enjoy?

 

[VanIslander]

If we posted an argument with each pick... it would be informative.

"The 3-year peak all-time draft"

The 3YP all-time draft!

I am so in.

Note: Frank McGee looks like a starter!

 

[tinyzombies]

Ok maybe that's a better idea, but how would everyone have access to 3YP VsX?

But, if you time machine Aurel Joliat here right now, he wouldn't do well even with modern equipment. If you give him the attributes modern players enjoy and give him the added muscle he'd have, where would he THEN rank? I still find that kind of draft interesting also. I'd like to do both drafts. Ditch the vs his own era stuff for once, and the career comparisons.

 

[VanIslander]

... if you time machine Aurel Joliat here right now, he wouldn't do well even with modern equipment....

Oh,... I've never done a time machine thought experiment. That truly is Fantasy board stuff.

I dunno... it is like a Historian debate about greatest empires in which the Roman Empire would be discounted because they didn't have aircraft carriers or atomic bombs, and if you gave it to them, they wouldn't be as skilled at using them. Weird. Not discipline of History kind of thinking.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

"Talent level" is so amorphous.

Didn't we do a draft based off single-seasons before?

That was fun.

 

[VanIslander]

How about a 50/50 draft: 10 current players and 10 retired all-time greats, with at least one of each on every line and every pairing.

That way you could get a young McDavid and Laine on a line with Ted Lindsay, Weber paired with Horton, Price as backup to Tretiak.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I say keep the drafting itch for the main ATD, which should start in a month or two.

 

[tinyzombies]

I agree re draft burnout. Just thought that the Henris, Bentleys, Morenzes might be able to play today because of their skating and stickhandling, so why would anyone be ranked ahead of them from their era?

 

[Say Hey Kid]

"Talent level" is so amorphous. Didn't we do a draft based off single-seasons before? That was fun.

I was going to post that.

 

[tinyzombies]

I was going to post that.

Maybe so, but how is that different from drafting players vs their own eras? That's still how player-seasons are judged.