All-Time All-Stars WITH NOTE

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  1. totozenerd

    totozenerd Registered User

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    I am doing a All-Time All-Star Team in the NHL 11, so I ask you lot of supremely intelligent hokey fans about who would make it to that 15-attackers, 10-defencemen, 3-goalies team.

    What's more, I'd ask you to note (on 100) their abilities in:
    -skating (speed)
    -skating (agility)
    -shooting (power)
    -shooting (precision)
    -vision of the ice
    -hand/eye
    -checking
    -avoiding penalties
    -being in fights
    -singing (nah, just joking)

    For goalies, I'd like a note on:
    -speed
    -saves

    Thanks already
     
  2. VanIslander

    VanIslander Don't waste my time

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    Wayne Gretzky, C
    Mario Lemieux, C
    Gordie Howe, RW
    Bobby Hull, LW
    Jean Beliveau, C
    Maurice Richard, RW
    Stan Mikita, C
    Guy Lafleur, RW
    Bryan Trottier, C
    Howie Morenz, C
    Bobby Clarke, C
    Ted Lindsay, LW
    Mike Bossy, RW
    Phil Esposito, C
    Mark Messier, C
    Jaromir Jagr, RW

    (16 above... to get down to 15, which one to drop? :amazed:)

    Bobby Orr, D
    Eddie Shore, D
    Doug Harvey, D
    Raymond Bourque, D
    Denis Potvin, D
    Nicklas Lidstrom, D
    Red Kelly, D
    Larry Robinson, D
    Paul Coffey, D
    Pierre Pilote, D

    Dominic Hasek, G
    Patrick Roy, G
    Jacques Plante, G
     
  3. jkrx

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    You could drop Messier only because there is already better Centers on the team plus that you already have grit and leadership covered amongst other players.
     
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    tony d Registered User Sponsor

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    Doing it by lines:

    Hull-Gretzky-Howe
    Lindsay-Lemieux-Richard
    Robitaille-Beliveau-Jagr
    Messier-Clarke-Lafluer
    Bossy-Mikita-Morenz

    Orr-Harvey
    Bourque-Shore
    Lidstrom-Potvin
    Kelly-Robinson
    Pilote-Chelios

    Roy
    Sawchuk
    Hasek
     
  5. zeus3007*

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    I think Mess should be kept for his all around game, including the toughness and leadership you mentioned. On this team, he would be the perfect 4th line center. I also think another d-man with those should be on the team, Scott Stevens maybe?
     
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    I don't think Robitaille belongs. That is probably the only player I disagree with though. I would say Phil Esposito, although not a LW, should be in that spot. I would probably replace Chelios with Scott Stevens too, and maybe make Hasek first on that list of goalies, but that one is a minor tweak.
     
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    I think you need to keep Mess because there are just two LWs that make the top 15 all-time cut and he spent some time there.

    My lineup would look like this (albeit this is more of an ATD-flavored one):

    Lemieux-Gretzky-Bossy
    Lindsay-Beliveau-Richard
    Messier-Clarke-Howe
    Hull-Mikita-Lafleur

    Spares: Trottier, Esposito

    Orr-Shore
    Harvey-Bourque
    Potvin-Kelly
    Robinson

    Roy
    Hasek
     
  8. totozenerd

    totozenerd Registered User

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    Thanks for the help, but WHERE ARE THE NOTES?
     
  9. totozenerd

    totozenerd Registered User

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    Btw I didn't even KNOW about some of those players
    Thanks guys for ur superior intelligence.
     
  10. OrrNumber4

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    THe problem with doing things like this, is the scale.

    I mean, for Gretzky, if you put his passing ability at 100, where does someone like Sedin or Crosby go? In a normal league, they'd probably get high 90s (I would guess; don't play many video games myself). But if Gretzky is 100, you can't give Crosby a 90; Crosby isn't only 10% "worse" then Gretzky at passing. You'd have to give him a 60 or 70. Which gives the role players something like 30...

    For skating...if Orr is at 100 for speed, then someone like Green or Marleau would have to be at 60-70; some of the slower skaters might "get" rankings below 20, which I bet would make the gameplay very bothersome...
     
  11. UltimateHockeyFan8

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    Here's a tip:

    Get NHL 2k8 or lower (NHL 2k7, 2k6 etc) and they have historic rosters in that game. The rating are mostly well done in my view and they are very useful if you want to make them in NHL 11. The players are on classic teams that you have to unlock, and the oldest dates back to 1952. From the top of my head, they have the complete ratings for guys like Howe, Richard (both), Beliveau, Harvey, Plante, Sawchuk, Lindsay, Hull (both), Mikita, Trottier, Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Orr, Robinson, Dryden, Roy, Hasek, Esposito (both), Messier, Lafleur, Bossy, Bourque, Potvin, Coffey, kelly and many more. Most great players on teams after 1952 are probably in the game.

    The NHL 2k series is at 2011 now, so I'm sure the 08 and under games wouldn't be expensive at all. Hope this helps.
     
  12. UltimateHockeyFan8

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    By the way, many other players that will be on an all time team were in the 2010 and 2009 issues of the ea sports NHL games, because they made a Habs legends team for their 100th anniversary. So on those games are Morenz, Lafleur, Richards, Beliveau, Harvey, Plante, Roy, Dryden, Geoffrion etc. Although some of their ratings I find questionable, they are one of your only choices.
     
  13. Hawkey Town 18

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    I'm confused why there needs to be 15 forwards and 10 defensemen, but this list is close to what I would choose.

    The forwards are all great, the best way to eliminate one guy is based on what kind of player your team needs.

    As for the D, I would cut Pilote and add Chelios or Fetisov.

    Fully agree with all 3 goaltenders
     

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