OT - NO POLITICS All Things Coronavirus Covid-19 - Part III
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Smitty93
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OK now I am scared
U.S. coronavirus plan anticipates 18-month pandemic | Boston.com
WASHINGTON — A federal government plan to combat the coronavirus warned policymakers last week that a pandemic “will last 18 months or longer” and could include “multiple waves,” resulting in widespread shortages that would strain consumers and the nation’s health care system.
The 100-page plan, dated Friday, the same day President Donald Trump declared a national emergency, laid out a grim prognosis for the spread of the virus and outlined a response that would activate agencies across the government and potentially employ special presidential powers to mobilize the private sector.
Among the “additional key federal decisions” listed among the options for Trump was invoking the Defense Production Act of 1950, a Korean War-era law that authorizes a president to take extraordinary action to force American industry to ramp up production of critical equipment and supplies such as ventilators, respirators and protective gear for health care workers.
“Shortages of products may occur, impacting health care, emergency services, and other elements of critical infrastructure,” the plan warned. “This includes potentially critical shortages of diagnostics, medical supplies (including PPE and pharmaceuticals), and staffing in some locations.” PPE refers to personal protective equipment.
The plan continued: “State and local governments, as well as critical infrastructure and communications channels, will be stressed and potentially less reliable. These stresses may also increase the challenges of getting updated messages and coordinating guidance to these jurisdictions directly.”
I believe the plan is based on this Imperial College projection report. Having read it, I can say that it's terrifying. Basically says that if we don't do full suppression, we're looking at millions of deaths. That suppression would also have to last as long as we don't have a vaccine (potentially 18 months), as the transmission would rebound anytime we stop. Most people are going to struggle to financially survive for 2 months, let alone 18. Something's gotta give.
Bruinaura
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been told this is looking promising.
Sanofi and Regeneron begin global Kevzara® (sarilumab) clinical trial program in patients with severe COVID-19 - Mar 16, 2020
Sanofi and Regeneron begin global Kevzara® (sarilumab) clinical trial program in patients with severe COVID-19 - Mar 16, 2020
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whatsbruin
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Carlo and his gift, ha.
LouJersey
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As a person with a strong faith, I tell what happened today knowing what it was, but I will leave it up to you guys.
I never have worked from home in my entire life. Today, I did. I set up downstairs, and since I have no sunlight I opened the blinds on the window. It was nice, and about an hour in, I noticed an elderly woman walking up the hill. This is not all that uncommon, but I noticed she had a light jacket and wheeled walker, which again, not all that uncommon. She kept getting stuck on rocks and seemed frustrated, and something seemed off to me so I went out. I talked to her a bit, and not being a medical professional I don't know exactly what to look for. She said she was afraid and needed to go to the store. The store is about a quarter mile, along a very busy road ( I live 4 houses in from there so she was close) where cars fly. I said I would share with her what I had and she said, no I want to go...I said what do you need, she again said I just need to go to the store.....at this point I ask her to hang tight, get my wife who is an elder care nurse and she comes out and starts talking to her...text my son who is on duty patrolling and he gets there in a minute...seconds later a woman comes running up the street yelling for her....it was the lady;s daughter. She has dementia and escaped from the house without them knowing....Had I not been sitting there, this day, at that moment, she more than likely would have been injured or worse yet killed. The woman, who we know, broke down crying, hugging all of us, thanking us for caring enough to find out what was going on, and how hard it's been. It was an incredibly precious moment for all of us in this very confusing and scary time..
I never have worked from home in my entire life. Today, I did. I set up downstairs, and since I have no sunlight I opened the blinds on the window. It was nice, and about an hour in, I noticed an elderly woman walking up the hill. This is not all that uncommon, but I noticed she had a light jacket and wheeled walker, which again, not all that uncommon. She kept getting stuck on rocks and seemed frustrated, and something seemed off to me so I went out. I talked to her a bit, and not being a medical professional I don't know exactly what to look for. She said she was afraid and needed to go to the store. The store is about a quarter mile, along a very busy road ( I live 4 houses in from there so she was close) where cars fly. I said I would share with her what I had and she said, no I want to go...I said what do you need, she again said I just need to go to the store.....at this point I ask her to hang tight, get my wife who is an elder care nurse and she comes out and starts talking to her...text my son who is on duty patrolling and he gets there in a minute...seconds later a woman comes running up the street yelling for her....it was the lady;s daughter. She has dementia and escaped from the house without them knowing....Had I not been sitting there, this day, at that moment, she more than likely would have been injured or worse yet killed. The woman, who we know, broke down crying, hugging all of us, thanking us for caring enough to find out what was going on, and how hard it's been. It was an incredibly precious moment for all of us in this very confusing and scary time..
Dueling Banjos
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I really hope some medicine proves to be successful in order to put masses out of intensive care, forget the vaccine now, we need reliever.
My doctor just moved my appointment next week to a phone visit so I don't have to go to the hospital. I am very impressed and greatful.
whatsbruin
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I keep looking to see if cold (refrigerator) , or heat (hot car) kills this thing, but have not found anything.
I'm sure an oven would kill it.
We are wiping all our food down with wipes.
I'm sure an oven would kill it.
We are wiping all our food down with wipes.
Smitty93
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You'd have a better idea than any of us, but what are the odds the FDA relaxes some of the approval processes in order to get things out to the public sooner? I know that's not ideal, and we want to be safe, but we're in desperate times.
I asked my instacart driver to leave my order on my stairs and put my id in a plastic bag.
I may be going extreme but I put a trashbag down so I can put my bags on it versus my rug and plan to use gloves when wiping down my food with wipes.
We heat deactivate virus at 80 degrees C for 96 hours.......that's one mother hot car.
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talkinaway
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We all have our tolerances. I'm doing no form of takeout, and only no-contact grocery delivery (while that lasts - so thankful for the deliverers), and non-perishables stay in the basement out of the plastic bags for 5 days. Perishables...eh. I don't have any wipes (always used soap and water), so I chance it and put them in the fridge or freezer, and hope for the best, washing my hands before and after I eat. Same with mail - I have five piles of mail in the garage, and when I make a new pile from today's mail, I take the oldest pile in and deal with it.
I personally think the no-takeout is a reasonable step - I would -LOVE- to support local restaurants through this, but I think by not getting and spreading COVID-19 to their potential patrons who could get seriously ill or die, I am supporting them. I'll admit that the other stuff is a little extreme, but doesn't "cost" me much in time or effort, and gives me a sense of control.
The main transmission is still person-to-person, although it does seem to live in plastic for up to 5 days, and cardboard for supposedly 1-3 days - but frankly, the research is still out there. The best prevention is to wash hands (especially before/after eating, immediately upon coming home from anywhere, and after the bathroom) and keeping the 2 yard radius away from people not in your immediate household.
Oh, and great move by your doc to move you to a telephone visit. I already moved my annual checkup to June, and my mom said her doc said none of the regular docs are in the office - everyone's at the hospital.
whatsbruin
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Holy crap , yes. Wish i learned metric, had to google C to F .
OK now I am scared
U.S. coronavirus plan anticipates 18-month pandemic | Boston.com
WASHINGTON — A federal government plan to combat the coronavirus warned policymakers last week that a pandemic “will last 18 months or longer” and could include “multiple waves,” resulting in widespread shortages that would strain consumers and the nation’s health care system.
The 100-page plan, dated Friday, the same day President Donald Trump declared a national emergency, laid out a grim prognosis for the spread of the virus and outlined a response that would activate agencies across the government and potentially employ special presidential powers to mobilize the private sector.
Among the “additional key federal decisions” listed among the options for Trump was invoking the Defense Production Act of 1950, a Korean War-era law that authorizes a president to take extraordinary action to force American industry to ramp up production of critical equipment and supplies such as ventilators, respirators and protective gear for health care workers.
“Shortages of products may occur, impacting health care, emergency services, and other elements of critical infrastructure,” the plan warned. “This includes potentially critical shortages of diagnostics, medical supplies (including PPE and pharmaceuticals), and staffing in some locations.” PPE refers to personal protective equipment.
The plan continued: “State and local governments, as well as critical infrastructure and communications channels, will be stressed and potentially less reliable. These stresses may also increase the challenges of getting updated messages and coordinating guidance to these jurisdictions directly.”
I was listening to coast2coastam last night they had a guest on Major Ed Dames who has worked within the US government as something along the lines of preventing bioterrorism ... he said, amongst other troubling comments, that what we've seen so far is nothing ... that this thing won't peak most likely for 9 months, and it won't be good.
Very sobering. And gives a sliver of credence to some other non-mainstream reports 'of the like' that many polititions are trying to play down. Which I guess is to keep people from panicking, but I don't think I've heard them outright say these 'other' reports are untrue.
I really hope this thing blows over quickly and that these other reports are wrong, but if not, I'm also trying to prepare myself mentally for what may come ... if that is possible.
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Dueling Banjos
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I am trying to be positive and post about potential cures or treatments, here's another one
Favipiravir by Fujifilm may treat Covid-19, say Chinese officials.
''In Shenzhen city in China, a clinical trial involving 80 participants demonstrated better chest improvement in those treated with Favipiravir, noted Zhang.
Also, patients treated with the drug tested negative for the genomic trace of the virus in lesser time, compared to those not administered with the drug.
The drug was able to shorten the recovery time from 11 days to four days for mild and regular cases.
Another trial in Wuhan showed that the drug shortened fever duration from an average of 4.2 days to 2.5 days.''
Favipiravir by Fujifilm may treat Covid-19, say Chinese officials.
''In Shenzhen city in China, a clinical trial involving 80 participants demonstrated better chest improvement in those treated with Favipiravir, noted Zhang.
Also, patients treated with the drug tested negative for the genomic trace of the virus in lesser time, compared to those not administered with the drug.
The drug was able to shorten the recovery time from 11 days to four days for mild and regular cases.
Another trial in Wuhan showed that the drug shortened fever duration from an average of 4.2 days to 2.5 days.''
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