Tennis: All Purpose Tennis Thread XIII

[Fantomas]

17 GS, 5 World Tour Finals and 35 ATP Masters including having won all 9 Masters twice (no one has won all 9 even once). In Tennis, we are quite rigid about GS #, but at what point do you factor the other wins into where you place players?

I think if Novak can manage to win one more French Open, that'd do it for me. All of this assuming Roger stays at 20.

The Masters series have only existed since 1990. That's a short slice of tennis history.

And the grand slam was closed to professional players for an extended period until 1968. So obviously there are many other things to take into account when looking at great players.

 

[Novak Djokovic]

The Masters series have only existed since 1990. That's a short slice of tennis history.

And the grand slam was closed to professional players for an extended period until 1968. So obviously there are many other things to take into account when looking at great players.

No doubt about that, but I'm talking about comparing all 3 players who've played in the same dynamic.

 

[MsMeow]

A player has tested positive for covid and has been withdrawn from the US Open. The name wasn't provided by the USTA.

Edit: Benoit Paire

 

[Say Hey Kid]

...And the grand slam was closed to professional players for an extended period until 1968...

That's why Serena has the most women's majors. Plus no one used to play the Aussie, because it was at Christmas so Court racked up wins against Australian amateur nobodies. Many vets such as Chris Evert say this.

 

[BMOK33]

A player has tested positive for covid and has been withdrawn from the US Open. The name wasn't provided by the USTA.

Edit: Benoit Paire

I posted it in the US Open thread. The early guesses are 3 players are gonna be out. Two French players and Medvedev. I don’t believe they’ll count anyone who played a match against him as a close contact given the precautions they take with the balls and also being outdoors. They’ll have to hope it doesn’t lead to an outbreak or this will probably end up not finishing.

 

[Fantomas]

No doubt about that, but I'm talking about comparing all 3 players who've played in the same dynamic.

I think Novak has an excellent case for being the best player of the three. And he's not slowing down.

 

[Fantomas]

That's why Serena has the most women's majors. Plus no one used to play the Aussie, because it was at Christmas so Court racked up wins against Australian amateur nobodies. Many vets such as Chris Evert say this.

That's true. Court's grand slam count is inflated. Evert's however is lower than it would have been if she played more Aussies and French opens. She probably would have retired with 23-25.

This is also somewhat true of men in the 1970s and 80s. The Australian open was a minor tournament for most of those years, which means players like Connors, Borg, McEnroe and even Lendl won would have won more majors in a more standardized environment.

Connors would have wound up with 10 or more. Borg would have had probably as many as Sampras by his 25th birthday.

 

[MsMeow]

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[Say Hey Kid]

I love looking at the GS records. Here's a few of my favorites:

Finals	#
1.	Roger Federer	31
2.	Rafael Nadal	27
3.	Novak Djokovic	26
4.	Ivan Lendl	19
5.	Pete Sampras	18

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Semifinals	#
1.	Roger Federer	46
2.	Novak Djokovic	37
3.	Rafael Nadal	33
4.	Jimmy Connors	31
5.	Ivan Lendl	28

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Quarterfinals	#
1.	Roger Federer	57
2.	Novak Djokovic	46
3.	Jimmy Connors	41
Rafael Nadal
5.	Roy Emerson	37

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Finals	#
1.	Chris Evert	34
2.	Serena Williams	33
3.	/ M. Navratilova	32
4.	Steffi Graf	31
5.	Margaret Court	29

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Semifinals	#
1.	Chris Evert	52
2.	/ M. Navratilova	44
3.	Serena Williams	38
4.	Steffi Graf	37
5.	Margaret Court	36

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Quarterfinals	#
1.	Chris Evert	54
2.	/ M. Navratilova	53
3.	Serena Williams	52
4.	Margaret Court	43
5.	Steffi Graf	42

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Tuggy]

Bianca still on the EL for Rome, which is next week. And the French Open.

We'll see...

 

[MsMeow]

'Sometimes the anger comes out of control': Daniela Hantuchova lifts the lid on Novak Djokovic | Daily Mail Online

I'm surprised that someone who is a good friend would say these things to the media.

 

[MsMeow]

https://opencourt.ca/wordpress/2020/09/09/andreescu-in-paris-itll-be-a-little-tight/

Doesn't sound like Andreescu will be playing the French.

 

[Tuggy]

Genie, who went through qualifying, beat Kuznetsova today in Istanbul to reach the QF there.

She's plummeted in the rankings but she's still plugging away. Credit to her.

A win in the QF would get her back into the top 200.

She seems quite focused and determined. Looks fitter now too (not so skinny).

 

[MsMeow]

Genie, who went through qualifying, beat Kuznetsova today in Istanbul to reach the QF there.

She's plummeted in the rankings but she's still plugging away. Credit to her.

A win in the QF would get her back into the top 200.

She seems quite focused and determined. Looks fitter now too (not so skinny).

Really glad to see this. She totally lost her way a few years ago and it's great to see she's still plugging away at it.

 

[MsMeow]

https://twitter.com/OpenCourt

Throwing this out there for those who don't follow Stephanie Myles. She is great at finding out all kinds of tennis information.

 

[Tuggy]

Genie comes from a set down and wins in 3 sets to reach the SF.

Back in the top 200 now.

Wonder if she can manage a WC (MD or Q) at the French Open...

We'll see what she has left in the tank for the SF. 3 hour match today and she's played a lot this week having to go through qualifying.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Genie comes from a set down and wins in 3 sets to reach the SF.

Back in the top 200 now.

Wonder if she can manage a WC (MD or Q) at the French Open...

We'll see what she has left in the tank for the SF. 3 hour match today and she's played a lot this week having to go through qualifying.

I have a lot of respect for Genie continuing to try to slug it out at low level tourneys and get back to being a relevant tennis player. I talked a fair amount of shit about her not caring and just wanting to be an instagram model so respect where respect is due, she clearly cares about tennis. She could live off her social media following and sponsorship money tbh.

 

[kihei]

I am surprised too that Genie has had the gumption to stick with it. Wish her well.

 

[MsMeow]

I have a lot of respect for Genie continuing to try to slug it out at low level tourneys and get back to being a relevant tennis player. I talked a fair amount of shit about her not caring and just wanting to be an instagram model so respect where respect is due, she clearly cares about tennis. She could live off her social media following and sponsorship money tbh.

Does she have a lot of sponsorships now? I think she wears Nike but once she dropped below a certain ranking that ended.

 

[Tuggy]

Easier day for Genie today and she's into the final!

 

[Tuggy]

Well, amazing week for Genie has come to an end.

She lost a hard fought final in a 3rd set tiebreak.

I hope this can be a jumping off point for her to get things back together, but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Tuggy]

Felix lost his first round match in Rome to Krajinovic.

Shapovalov and Raonic are also playing there.

Djokovic and Nadal are also set to play.

 

[discostu]

It's really weird having a Masters event right on the heels of a major. I know that's the slightest of concerns these days, but weird for Thiem to have this gigantic moment and have the page turned immediately.

Sucks for Felix. I thought he'd be more of a threat on clay.

 

[Tuggy]

It's really weird having a Masters event right on the heels of a major. I know that's the slightest of concerns these days, but weird for Thiem to have this gigantic moment and have the page turned immediately.

Sucks for Felix. I thought he'd be more of a threat on clay.

It's a very quick transition from hard courts to clay. I'm not going to put too much stock into today. But it was a very bad performance from Felix

He's got Hamburg to get his shit together before RG.

 

[Tuggy]

Genie got a MD WC for the French Open!

Wow, good for her.