All Purpose Coronavirus Discussion Part VI - The Flyers Fred Arthur wore #6, he quit to be a doctor

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[kudymen]

There is a virus out there

 

[Asnito]

All while being ok with 3M sending the US 10 million masks from their plant in China. 3M should just say fine, we won't export from US to Can/LA and then send those 10 million up north and south.

Oh...and what is really funny, is that the paper that 3M uses in their US plant to make those masks....comes from Canada.

Well to be fair we declared Canada a national security threat, aluminum tariffs, so you're the enemy

 

[Asnito]

Reposting the videos I posted earlier since the old thread was closed.

Anybody in need of a chuckle

 

[GapToothedWonder]

What do you mean

How far should a citizen want the members of their military to extrapolate the concept of following orders and adhering to the chain of command before they should use their moral conscious and decision making?

 

[Jtown]

@Rebels57

I hope i am wrong too. And i theorize sadly that the death rate will increase because of lack of adequate medical attention not because the virus is more deadly that we though. That 2 percent fatality rate was under manageable circumstances.

Coronavirus: Why death and mortality rates differ

this article explains how easily benchmarks can be changed to reduce or increase these rates. I think we will have a tough time defining what exactly is a death that is lead by corona virus.

Currently, a patient who has a heart attack that dies because he can't get medical attention in time because of limited resources is considered a non corona case.

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 20 Patients.

that is why mercy and comfort were brought in to help alleviate those issues and clearly that is not working out well .

 

[FlyerNutter]

Landed in our airports after 9/11.

Let him rot in hell with his masks.

 

[Tripod]

Well to be fair we declared Canada a national security threat, aluminum tariffs, so you're the enemy

It explains why Trump has thought about putting armed guards to protect the border between us. I guess he thinks we are just itching to migrate to the States!

 

[deadhead]

I doubt the US death rate will level off before late May, if you look at the movement map in March, the Southeast and central plains are going to have explosive growth in infections through April, and thus deaths will continue to rise well into May.

Most of the major cities locked down a week or two ago, but a lot of the smaller towns and rural areas bought the Fox News koolaid - that story out of Hazelton is scary, only 13% were engaging in social distancing. That's probably been repeated all through that region - and while densities are lower, these people do congregate at church and other events on a regular basis, whether morning coffee at the diner or honky tonks on Saturday night.

 

[Jtown]

@Hollywood Couturier

top headline on foxnews.com

China joins UN Human Rights Council panel despite troubling record, response to coronavirus

top headline from Breitbart.com

Fauci: China's 'Delay in Transparency' 'Likely' Prevented Other Countries from Restricting Travel

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Who did a deal with the devil from that family? That’s the 14th & 15th members of that family to die an unnatural death.

 

[Asnito]

It explains why Trump has thought about putting armed guards to protect the border between us. I guess he thinks we are just itching to invade to the States!

Corrected for accuracy

 

[kudymen]

Why am I seeing breitbart here?

 

[Jtown]

Why am I seeing breitbart here?

because talking about China is part of the problem.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

@Hollywood Couturier

top headline on foxnews.com

China joins UN Human Rights Council panel despite troubling record, response to coronavirus

top headline from Breitbart.com

Fauci: China's 'Delay in Transparency' 'Likely' Prevented Other Countries from Restricting Travel

Gotta make sure to not implicate the oligarchs.

 

[deadhead]

It explains why Trump has thought about putting armed guards to protect the border between us. I guess he thinks we are just itching to migrate to the States!

Well, I met a lot of Canadians in Austin, seems y'all get tired of snow after a while.

On the other hand, Trump is probably the best barrier we could enact to discourage Canadians from migrating here.

 

[kudymen]

because talking about China is part of the problem.

Why is something like breitbart evidence of anything?

 

[Jtown]

Why is something like breitbart evidence of anything?

Breitbart is the most popular extreme right wing news source. Their articles are evidence of misdirection. There is so much to focus on right here in America right f***ing now, and you can see how the conservative playbook is operating.

 

[Tripod]

Landed in our airports after 9/11.

Let him rot in hell with his masks.

Funny how that is forgotten....but not surprising given who it is.

 

[Beef Invictus]

@Hollywood Couturier

top headline on foxnews.com

China joins UN Human Rights Council panel despite troubling record, response to coronavirus

top headline from Breitbart.com

Fauci: China's 'Delay in Transparency' 'Likely' Prevented Other Countries from Restricting Travel

You're doing the thing that makes just about any discussion of the Israel/Palestine situation impossible. Where you conflate any criticism of government action with somehow being critical of the nationality as a whole, so it devolves into stuff like "Oh you don't like the Dahiya Doctrine? You must be a big old fan of Himmler," or "You think Hamas encouraging children to carry out attacks is bad? You must want to see Palestinians genocided."

 

[deadhead]

Breitbart is the most popular extreme right wing news source. Their articles are evidence of misdirection. There is so much to focus on right here in America right f***ing now, and you can see how the conservative playbook is operating.

To be fair, China is the source of the virus, due to their refusal to shutdown their live animal markets (probably b/c senior party members believe in traditional animal cures, China is a big reason Rhinos are endangered, those fools haven't figured out Viagra works better than Rhino horns), and the Chinese handling of the outbreak certainly accelerated the spread of the virus worldwide. And there is increasing evidence that China is lying through their teeth about the # of infections and fatalities, robbing the world of needed information to combat the pandemic.

This doesn't absolve the current Administration of their gross incompetence, but it is fair game for investigative reporting.

 

[renberg]

How far should a citizen want the members of their military to extrapolate the concept of following orders and adhering to the chain of command before they should use their moral conscious and decision making?

Opinion | Captain Crozier Is a Hero
Evidently TR had some strong feelings on that subject.

 

[Asnito]

How far should a citizen want the members of their military to extrapolate the concept of following orders and adhering to the chain of command before they should use their moral conscious and decision making?

You're trying to make something that is opaque appear transparent.

An example would be a general ordering 10k men to launch an attack that he knows they will suffer 40%+ casualties but will allow a flanking attack that will potentially save 20k lives. Should the leader of the 10k men say no?

The virus on the carrier is in a totally different class than normal military actions. I respect the Captain for putting his men before his career and as I said earlier we don't know if he sent classified requests that were denied and felt the need to go public for crew safety.

A Captain cannot broadcast every time there is a problem on his vessel because that is very valuable information to our adversaries which they could exploit. That carrier in particular is one of two currently stationed to deter Chinese aggression in the region.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

You're doing the thing that makes just about any discussion of the Israel/Palestine situation impossible. Where you conflate any criticism of government action with somehow being critical of the nationality as a whole, so it devolves into stuff like "Oh you don't like the Dahiya Doctrine? You must be a big old fan of Himmler," or "You think Hamas encouraging children to carry out attacks is bad? You must want to see Palestinians genocided."

Is it really that irrational of a thought that regardless of political ideology that after this is all done a lot countries not just the US are going to want some answers from China?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Back when our 2 week quarantine started I got us a large food supply so I only ended up needing to hit the store once in the last 15 days. This was still when hoarding was going strong so a lot of selection was limited. But all the absolute fools living here ignored the canned corned beef hash. I've eaten so much of it and it's truly a golden age of my life.