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Dreger eyes Devils on trade front

“It’s possible,” allowed Dreger. “But you’re right. If I look at the Eastern Conference, I mean there are teams that we haven’t heard from yet. Toronto plays the New Jersey Devils tonight. I’m getting the sense the New Jersey Devils are real close to moving out some pieces.

“Now, we’re not talking about the big boys like Hall or Palmieri or anything like that. New Jersey is a team that - Ray Shero is a veteran, experienced general manager. Maybe he wants to dip into the market, or take advantage of someone else who wants to dip into the market early.
 

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I doubt it, I think Krug just likes rotating to the halfwall so Pastrnak has no choice but to cover the point.

Earlier in the year when Krug was out I really liked how Grzelcyk played on the powerplay. His goal was to get the puck to one of the forwards as quickly as possible and for the most part it worked. They also have Mcavoy who should be getting some powerplay time.

The reason I don't fancy Grzelcyk on PP is that he is no threat from the point. The opposing PK units knew that and were not challenging his shot earlier in the season. PK just clogged the lines and took the gap from the forwards to receive a good pass. Carlo's shot is heavy enough to have a good rebound or getting through to ignore as a threat.
 

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The guy I want here for years to come is Ferland. He is going to be dealt and if DS can negotiate a long term deal with him prior to the trade I give Carolina anyone they want with the exception of Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak or Rask. Everyone else is available to go for Ferland.
 

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Should not be moving a D-man off this roster. Still want to see Gryz-Carlo pairing.

I don't think I would mess with Carlo/Chara. They play very well together their a bona-fide top tier shut-down duo.

They know each other so well and Carlo's ability to read the play and his natural instincts , make-up a lot for Big Z lack of speed.
 

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The guy I want here for years to come is Ferland. He is going to be dealt and if DS can negotiate a long term deal with him prior to the trade I give Carolina anyone they want with the exception of Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak or Rask. Everyone else is available to go for Ferland.

Ferland apparently wants big money. Anyone who signs him to that is going to be regretting it down the line. I bet Jim Benning is the one to do it.
 

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The.Second.Line.Needs.Help.

It's a notorious thing for a bear that during winter season is in hibernation and produces no activity at all. Sweeney is no different. The only hope is spring is coming early this year.
 
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Trade Watch List: Top 30 — The Fourth Period

2. Jeff Carter – Predators, Bruins, Canadiens and Stars
4. Wayne Simmonds – Stars, Flames, Leafs, Avs, Golden Knights, Oilers, Predators, Bruins and Jets
5. Mats Zuccarello – Golden Knights, Stars, Predators, Avs, Bruins, Leafs, Sabres and Pens
8. Ryan Dzingel – Bruins, Sabres, Penguins, Ducks, Islanders, Sharks, Stars and Avs

9. Alex Edler – Penguins, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Golden Knights and Flames
11. Jake Muzzin – Bruins, Maple Leafs and Jets

13. Tyler Toffoli – Hurricanes and Bruins

Why would the Bruins be looking at Defensemen?

:: Doubletake ::
EDLER?!?!?!
Dzingel would be the guy I want most of that list and I hope the habs trade a lot of Carter.
 
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My crazy proposal of the week:

Boston: Jakub Voracek
Philadelphia: Torey Krug, 4th round pick

Boston: Brayden Schenn
St. Louis: Danton Heinen, Jakub Zboril, 3rd round pick

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Voracek
Donato-Schenn-Backes?
Wagner-Kuraly-Nordstrom

Chara-Mcavoy
Grzelcyk-Carlo
Moore-Miller
Lauzon
 

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My crazy proposal of the week:

Boston: Jakub Voracek
Philadelphia: Torey Krug, 4th round pick

Boston: Brayden Schenn
St. Louis: Danton Heinen, Jakub Zboril, 3rd round pick

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Voracek
Donato-Schenn-Backes?
Wagner-Kuraly-Nordstrom

Chara-Mcavoy
Grzelcyk-Carlo
Moore-Miller
Lauzon
If we could pull those deals off I would be very pleased and I really like Krug, but I think Voracek would be great with Krejci.
 
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Would Krug return a top 6 winger? I don’t think the PP would be significantly worse without him, just significantly different. Maybe a guy like Grzelcyk doesn’t play with the puck as much as Krug would but I’d like someone that just gets Pastrnak the puck for one timers anyway.

McAvoy would bring just as much as Krug. The kids a stud, he knows when to jump up in the play, he can create on his own and his offensive IQ is top notch. He just hasn't been given the chance, do to injuries and Krug.

Krug is one of the best and has great chemistry with the PP unit but McAvoy would bring his own element, where the Bruins wouldn't miss a beat and with the talent they put out there the adjustment would come quickly.

This being said, I don't see the Bruins dealing Krug during the season, but with the Depth and talent they have in the back end, I could diffidently see him being moved in the off-season.
 

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My crazy proposal of the week:

Boston: Jakub Voracek
Philadelphia: Torey Krug, 4th round pick

Boston: Brayden Schenn
St. Louis: Danton Heinen, Jakub Zboril, 3rd round pick

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Voracek
Donato-Schenn-Backes?
Wagner-Kuraly-Nordstrom

Chara-Mcavoy
Grzelcyk-Carlo
Moore-Miller
Lauzon
I actually like your crazy proposal, would just need some tweaking. Not thrilled at moving Krug but I like Voracek. Love Schenn but I think Boston has to add to that deal. The one supplemental move I make is Chelarik, who is never going to play here, for McQuaid. I would also try some Providence options at fourth line RW to see if one may be able to take Backes spot on third line then move Backes to fourth. Give Senyshyn a look, maybe Frederic on W.
 
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Looking at names the B's could acquire I like getting Schenn, but if the cost is too much then I would look at Wennberg , good speed and signed to a decent deal, could be an ideal #3C.

If we are talking fantasy land would the Avs ever deal McKinnon? I am sure most people saw him get upset with the coach and throw a water bottle, probably just frustration from losing lately, but that is one guy I would move McAvoy for as part of deal for Nate.
 

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I actually like your crazy proposal, would just need some tweaking. Not thrilled at moving Krug but I like Voracek. Love Schenn but I think Boston has to add to that deal. The one supplemental move I make is Chelarik, who is never going to play here, for McQuaid. I would also try some Providence options at fourth line RW to see if one may be able to take Backes spot on third line then move Backes to fourth. Give Senyshyn a look, maybe Frederic on W.
I don’t think Senyshyn will get a look this year even though I’d like to see it. I think for better or worse it’ll be Backes in that 3rd line RW spot this year. Hopefully they can move him in July so Bjork and Senyshyn can compete for that spot.
 
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The guy I want here for years to come is Ferland. He is going to be dealt and if DS can negotiate a long term deal with him prior to the trade I give Carolina anyone they want with the exception of Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak or Rask. Everyone else is available to go for Ferland.

Out of all the potential candidates that will likely be available, Ferland is your “gotta have” guy (and you want to extend him)??

I can think of at least 7/8 players I would rather have.

1) Ferland is a LH LW, the one position the B’s really don’t need to add.

2) He’s in his walk year. Came out like a house on fire with 14 pts in his first 20 games (10g/4a). Last 16 games he has 2g/4a.

3) I think his season last year (21g/20a) is the best you get from him. I like the skill set, but I’m getting a Beleskey-vibe.
 

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I been corrected by folks that certainly know more then me that Schenn is best suited for center

Works still - short and long term

If you get him it’s to retain him

Id pass on Schenn and go else where. There's going to be a lot of sellers out there, no need to be infatuated in on one player, after all Armstrong holds all the cards on a player like Schenn, he's signed through next year, so its not like he has to move him or lose him for nothing.

Besides that the Blues have a lot of talent on that team and they just need to figure -out who they should keep and who they shouldn't and they maybe be more apt to figure that out during the off-season unless someone severely over-pays.
 
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The reason I don't fancy Grzelcyk on PP is that he is no threat from the point. The opposing PK units knew that and were not challenging his shot earlier in the season. PK just clogged the lines and took the gap from the forwards to receive a good pass. Carlo's shot is heavy enough to have a good rebound or getting through to ignore as a threat.

I love Carlo but he has no business being on the PP.
 

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Out of all the potential candidates that will likely be available, Ferland is your “gotta have” guy (and you want to extend him)??

I can think of at least 7/8 players I would rather have.

1) Ferland is a LH LW, the one position the B’s really don’t need to add.

2) He’s in his walk year. Came out like a house on fire with 14 pts in his first 20 games (10g/4a). Last 16 games he has 2g/4a.

3) I think his season last year (21g/20a) is the best you get from him. I like the skill set, but I’m getting a Beleskey-vibe.

He's still a good, useful player, as part of that dip in production was him trying to get back into the swing of things post-concussion. He's the rough and tumble kind of guy everyone likes. But if you extend him, you are absolutely going to get f***ed. I don't know how many warnings this fanbase needs about not signing these types of players long term past the age of 25. Looch. Backes. Beleskey. Next up, Simmonds and Ferland for (hopefully) some other team.
 

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He's still a good, useful player, as part of that dip in production was him trying to get back into the swing of things post-concussion. He's the rough and tumble kind of guy everyone likes. But if you extend him, you are absolutely going to get ****ed. I don't know how many warnings this fanbase needs about not signing these types of players long term past the age of 25. Looch. Backes. Beleskey. Next up, Simmonds and Ferland for (hopefully) some other team.

He’s probably not available but I would go after a player like Josh Anderson before Ferland (Miles Wood too). Younger and less mileage.

I loved Simmonds 3/4 years ago, but don’t want any part of him, unless it’s a pure rental and he’s dirt cheap.
 

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I been corrected by folks that certainly know more then me that Schenn is best suited for center

Works still - short and long term

If you get him it’s to retain him

Just like anything, everyone eventually learns their place, sooner or later:naughty:
 
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So the top teams in the east we need to worry about are Toronto, TB, and Wash. I'd throw the Blue Jackets in there potentially. Pens.....I'm not crazy worried about.

We need an intimidating force up front. There are only a few guys in the league who fit this mold unfortunately.
Wilson- Not going anywhere
Anderson- Doubt Jackets are looking to trade him and even if they were, it'd take an overpayment
Simmonds- Doesn't really intimidate anyone
Reeves- Can't play in the top 9, Vegas likely not looking to deal him
Wood- Potentially available for the right price, not sure he can play in the top 6
Benn- Cap too high and Stars likely wouldn't deal him
Bennett- Potential piece not sure if skill is there to be in the top 6
Lucic- Is a corpse.
Ferland-
UFA, good top 6 option for Krejci, be fun to watch vs Wilson

Fixed it for you
 

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Ferland apparently wants big money. Anyone who signs him to that is going to be regretting it down the line. I bet Jim Benning is the one to do it.

How different is signing Ferland to a big money/big term extension than signing Beleskey?

Because I see a lot of similarities.

As a rental, I have no issue with Ferland.

But no way would I extend him to the money and term some foolish GM will toss his way this summer.
 

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My crazy proposal of the week:

Boston: Jakub Voracek
Philadelphia: Torey Krug, 4th round pick

Boston: Brayden Schenn
St. Louis: Danton Heinen, Jakub Zboril, 3rd round pick

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Voracek
Donato-Schenn-Backes?
Wagner-Kuraly-Nordstrom

Chara-Mcavoy
Grzelcyk-Carlo
Moore-Miller
Lauzon


I also thought Voracek, but cap hit of 8.25M for 4 more years
 
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I also thought Voracek, but cap hit of 8.25M for 4 more years

Yes thats a lot and I believe, its for 5 more years after this one.

If I was going after a flyer it would be Couturier, Patrick or Konecny, any one else you take the risk of taking on an eventual cap nightmare.
 
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