Proposal: All Bruins Trade Proposals VII

[Blowfish]

Boy that's a tough one. I think I would be inclined to pass -- mainly because I think they are such similar players that the add wouldn't be huge and I think you get rid of young kids like JDB very very carefully. He's a big game performer and about the most enthusiastic kid you're going to find.

1) They are almost the exact same player. Tuch is significantly bigger and more physical but Debrusk is quicker.
2) Tuch is 23 and has a new 7 year contract at $4.75M. Debrusk is RFA this year and I expect will get a contract similar to Tuch's.
3) Tuch RS Stats: 174 GP - 40G - 59 A 99 Pts. Debrusk RS Stats: 164 GP - 50G - 49A - 99 Pts.
4) Tuch PO Stats: 27 GP - 7G - 5A 12 Pts. Debrusk PO Stats: 36 GP - 10G - 9A - 19 Pts.

Player	RS G/GP	RS A/GP	RS Pts/GP
Debrusk	.305	.299	.604
Tuch	.230	.339	.569

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Player	PO G/GP	PO A/GP	PO Pts/GP
Debrusk	.278	.250	.528
Tuch	.259	.185	.444

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Debrusk has edge on offense but the very similar. Of course Tuch has 4 inches and 40 pounds on JDB. Not surprisingly that translates into a more physical game. Tuch has 212 hits over 174 games while JDB 127 hits over 164 Games.

It's why I suck at these things. I want Tuch AND Debrusk.

Debrusk is a bruin he ain't going anywhere soon.

 

[Dr Hook]

He was....the deal he signed with Buffalo was very reasonable....grrrrr

Yes, it was a decent deal for him, but money the Bruins did not have to spend. If that was what he was looking for, viewing the team cap situation, I am not surprised they passed. It's too bad- this is the Backes deal paying the wrong sort of dividends.

 

[Tbaybruin]

If Buffalo drops out reaquire MoJo

he’s on a great contract and was only their best forward against St Louis

That’s why Sweeney should have moved Backes. If the cost was a first and a prospect do it then sign MoJo to the 4 mil a year deal and you have 2 extra million. Now you have to pay for players. All I can think of is Sweeney tried and it was a brutal high price like 2 firsts

 

[bbfan419]

I agree that it would make sense to trade from an area of strength to bolster the forwards. And in general I agree. However, my worry about Vaak is that he's not a required protection for the Seattle draft. I think if you add a guy like Tuch (who you'd obviously have to protect) you'd have to send back a guy that would otherwise be on that protect list (Gryz, Krug - depending on contract, etc).

For sure if we could trade Grizz in a package instead of Vaak that would be preferable.

 

[bbfan419]

The thing with Heinen is, and I'll say first I don't know enough about the Bruins cap situation to know if they can fit everyone without moving out a contract, is what if they Bruins strike out trying to move one of Backes/Moore/Miller and they need cap space to accommodate a 23-man roster. What do they do then? For me it then falls on Heinen, simply due to his salary. Now they won't give him away, but they could get backed into a corner depending on where they are with the salary cap.

They could also just put Backes on Waivers.

 

[bbfan419]

Pipe dreams included, your list is really close in my book - I have Kreider as number four but would like to add Rakell (just above Kreider).

1. Tuch (Grizz + Heinen will not be enough I believe - Lauzon and Studnicka + 3:rd maybe) I say pay up!
2. E. Lindholm (they´d be complete fools to sell, but if so... same deal as above) I say pay up!
3. Rakell (a sensible mix of size, work ethic and skill)
4. Palmieri / Kreider
5. Pageau
6. Anderson
7. Kase
8. Toffoli
9. Coleman (? for me)

The way I see it, Vaaks is the most important youth talent for us (as a future replacement for Chara, and though loosing Studnicka would be a noticeable blow to our future core, geting Lindholm would remove that pain - especially since Beecher seems to have quite some potential after some molding (could very well be one of the smartest draft picks in a long time and man our 2:nd C for years to come).

Lindholm would be a great addition long term, with the option of moving Coyle to 2:nd RW, but Tuch´s size is a more dire need for our cup run.

What about Calle Järnkrok as a 3:rd C (Coyle 2:nd RW), if Nashville want´s to shake things up and refill talent - his contract is sweet, so I guess it would cost, but I see him as an under estimated player.

I don't want to trade Studnicka, I would include Frederic and another prospect instead. I think Vegas though would be very interested in Grizz and why not?

 

[Over the volcano]

They could also just put Backes on Waivers.

What does that save them at this point, 1/2 mil?

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Buffalo starts losing

Mojo - Coyle- Anderson

it sure would suck to give up even more draft picks for a guy they already paid for once and let walk.

 

[CellyHard]

Ducks have been scouting the Bruins
Ducks have an abundance of right wings
Ducks could use a top four offensive defensemen
Bruins might be looking to ‘dump a contract’

I can see something being worked out around Kase for Moore. It would make sense that he’s been showcased the last three games.

Might not be the RH power play specialist that they’re looking for but I think it’s important to consider they’re going to keep Lindholm, Manson Fowler during expansion. Krug and Gryz don’t really make sense considering what they would have to pay them as well.

Kase’s value is pretty darn low right now and has the skill to slot easily into the top 6 with Krejci. If he gets hurt or it doesn’t pan out go back to the drawing board with picks and prospects for a rental at the TDL.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Not a good first half for Josh Anderson.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

They could have simply re-signed him and spent some of JJ's billion, instead of then having to give up assets for him.

I don't think Buffalo is going to send him here under any circumstances anyway.

I would love to just simply sign Mojo and spend JJs money. You need to fit under the cap. We lost Mojo because we have Backes contract strangling us. He could not be fit in at this time.

Moore alone is not going to bring us a lot, his cap is only 2.75. That hardly gets us the top 6 guy we crave. If its a multi player deal and a pick well maybe, still we need to add a roster player with him to get something of value back. Maybe Moore, Heinen a pick and prospect (Cehlarik).

 

[Saxon Eric]

 

[Saxon Eric]

Cehlarik and Zboril scratched or "sick",plus Moore not playing tonight
Gold in attendance in Providence
Something is up

 

[sleepyh]

Ducks have been scouting the Bruins
Ducks have an abundance of right wings
Ducks could use a top four offensive defensemen
Bruins might be looking to ‘dump a contract’

I can see something being worked out around Kase for Moore. It would make sense that he’s been showcased the last three games.

Might not be the RH power play specialist that they’re looking for but I think it’s important to consider they’re going to keep Lindholm, Manson Fowler during expansion. Krug and Gryz don’t really make sense considering what they would have to pay them as well.

Kase’s value is pretty darn low right now and has the skill to slot easily into the top 6 with Krejci. If he gets hurt or it doesn’t pan out go back to the drawing board with picks and prospects for a rental at the TDL.

Kase next to Krejci could be pretty nice. Assuming Kase can stay healthy..

 

[Mantis]

Try to get a 7th round pick for Ritchie and Lindholm or waive them.

Try Studnicka with Krejci and Debrusk for a few games and if its not working try aquiring someone like Palmieri.

 

[Sheppy]

I’ve tried, I’ve honestly tried with Heinen, but I’ll drive him to the airport if he’s in a package for an improvement.

 

[BBB24]

I’ve tried, I’ve honestly tried with Heinen, but I’ll drive him to the airport if he’s in a package for an improvement.

I would drive any of them to the airport if it was for an improvement, only seems logical.

 

[CDJ]

I’ve tried, I’ve honestly tried with Heinen, but I’ll drive him to the airport if he’s in a package for an improvement.

Uhhhhhhhh yeah, I hope that’s the case for everybody on the roster.........


But we get it at this point, you don’t like the player. Got it.

 

[neelynugs]

Ducks have been scouting the Bruins
Ducks have an abundance of right wings
Ducks could use a top four offensive defensemen
Bruins might be looking to ‘dump a contract’

I can see something being worked out around Kase for Moore. It would make sense that he’s been showcased the last three games.

Might not be the RH power play specialist that they’re looking for but I think it’s important to consider they’re going to keep Lindholm, Manson Fowler during expansion. Krug and Gryz don’t really make sense considering what they would have to pay them as well.

Kase’s value is pretty darn low right now and has the skill to slot easily into the top 6 with Krejci. If he gets hurt or it doesn’t pan out go back to the drawing board with picks and prospects for a rental at the TDL.

love kase but there's a lot more than moore going in that deal if true. anaheim had agreed
to kase for justin faulk before faulk said no thanks on an extension which meant no deal.
is zboril and moore and whatever else enough to get kase? would be nice. kase also makes
about the same as moore so the b's would still be looking to dump dollars.

 

[bbfan419]

What does that save them at this point, 1/2 mil?

Yeah somewhere between that and $1M, but every dollar saved counts and maybe if we are lucky by some miracle he gets claimed, but if not he gets demoted to the AHL and could consider retirement.

 

[BadBruins]

I’ve tried, I’ve honestly tried with Heinen, but I’ll drive him to the airport if he’s in a package for an improvement.

I'm with you. 3rd liner making 3rd line money. Low impact player. He might be worth more to the Bruins than in a trade, but I'm not sure he has a future here. Maybe he's that guy you don't miss until he's gone, but I honestly feel like his presence isn't wanted or needed at times. Still doesn't kill penalties. Barely gets PP time. Just kind of.... there. Player without a role is always a scary thing. The lack of skating and pace are apparent though and I don't think that jives with what Cassidy is looking for.

 

[Sheppy]

Uhhhhhhhh yeah, I hope that’s the case for everybody on the roster.........


But we get it at this point, you don’t like the player. Got it.

Good.

I think his “defensive ability” isn’t good enough to overcome his flat out lack of intensity and finish.

 

[CDJ]

Good.

I think his “defensive ability” isn’t good enough to overcome his flat out lack of intensity and finish.

Boy oh boy if you think he has a flat out lack of finish then I’d hate to see what you think of Anderson this year. THATS a lack of finish

 

[Sheppy]

Boy oh boy if you think he has a flat out lack of finish then I’d hate to see what you think of Anderson this year. THATS a lack of finish

He doesn’t have to be traded for Anderson.

 

[sarge88]

Boy oh boy if you think he has a flat out lack of finish then I’d hate to see what you think of Anderson this year. THATS a lack of finish

Personally, I’d rather give a guy who has already scored 27 in the NHL the benefit of the doubt that he can return to that level, than hope a guy who never has come close to that number will get there some day.