The don godfather
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Not if they get an elite prospect. Quite possible with those dandy first round pick.
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That 1st round pick won't have the impact on the Canes that Marner will have on Toronto.
Probably not, but wouldn't it be nice if they lose the pick to make cap space for Mitch Marner who then gets offer sheeted and accepts
The don godfather
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No way any team is gonna fork 4 st round picks and cripple the franchise.Probably not, but wouldn't it be nice if they lose the pick to make cap space for Mitch Marner who then gets offer sheeted and accepts
Estlin
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Exactly. Carolina should have demanded Kapanen or Johnsson instead of the first-round pick. The Leafs caught a break in that deal.
JRull86
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Which is exactly why he posted that article, because of the cap implications in each scenario.
Not sure what the snarkiness was for?
Estlin
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A team that is expected to remain competitive in the coming years and that has the cap space could offer sheet Marner. Those first-round picks would be low, anyway. Boston, for example...
JRull86
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I don't see how the Leafs caught a break.
After the reported extensions for Kapanen and Johnsson, they still don't have the space to sign Marner and actually fix their roster even with Marleau gone. They also cannot trade their 2020, or 2021 first as CAR owns it until conditions are met.
So still not enough room, and can't improve the roster with a first rounder until at least next offseason. Say goodbye to multiple seconds and thirds Dubas.
Toronto will only catch a break if a team decides to take on Zaitsev.
After the reported extensions for Kapanen and Johnsson, they still don't have the space to sign Marner and actually fix their roster even with Marleau gone. They also cannot trade their 2020, or 2021 first as CAR owns it until conditions are met.
So still not enough room, and can't improve the roster with a first rounder until at least next offseason. Say goodbye to multiple seconds and thirds Dubas.
Toronto will only catch a break if a team decides to take on Zaitsev.
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Good discussion on the main board about Backes going to Ottawa. I'm sure it's not David's top choice but it beats Providence and Ottawa needs to reach the cap floor, high cap/low salary ideally.
The pieces being discussed in the swap are Zboril (Jr teammate of Chabot), Lauzon (WJC partner) and Senyshyn (Ottawa native). Not all three but some combination with Lauzon holding the most value. I'd be very happy with that kind of deal.
The pieces being discussed in the swap are Zboril (Jr teammate of Chabot), Lauzon (WJC partner) and Senyshyn (Ottawa native). Not all three but some combination with Lauzon holding the most value. I'd be very happy with that kind of deal.
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ODAAT
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Would hate to lose Lauzon just to get rid of Backes. He also has a big mountain to climb with our defensive depth unfortunately. Zboril too. But if it means we can solidify that 2nd line and sign our RFAs... you have to do it.
JRull86
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I've been pounding the Backes to OTT train for a year now.
It makes the most sense out of any of the teams that are under the floor.
Ideally I don't give up Lauzon in that deal, I'd much prefer Zboril, but if it means shedding ALL of Backes cap for the next two seasons, you have to do it.
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They have $13M in cap space with 9F and 5D signed. They still need to sign Kapanen and Johansson. As bad as Gardiner is defensively, they will be losing an offensive defenseman that can score 30+pts. They can deal Zaitsev for $4M+ and if they are lucky and someone takes on that full contract, they will be down to three top 4 defenseman, one of which, Dermott, may be out until November at best. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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I don't think it matters, just get DB off the books. Personally, I'd like to get STL's 6th round pick. If for no other reason than to hope it comes back to haunt them one day.
PlayMakers
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I think it's just fans. Coach Parker is representing us in these negotiations.Is this just fans talking or is it more then that?
DominicT
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Maybe I should?I think it's just fans. Coach Parker is representing us in these negotiations.
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See it's already being discussed in other thread, but I really like the basis of David Backes for Zack Smith straight up....then both get bought out by the other team (after July 1)? I remember them dangling Smith on waivers hoping some poor fool would make a claim. Doubt they are looking forward to paying him $6.5M over the next two years.
Buyout on Zack Smith is $1.1M for four years (actual dollars). $4.4M total. Cap hit of $1.1M for all four years.
Buyout on David Backes is $667k for four years (actual dollars). $2.667M total. Cap hit of $5.7M, $3.7M, $667k, and $667k.
Ottawa would get what they want. Big cap hit next two years to stay above cap floor and save almost $2M in actual dollars over the next two years. Bruins get almost $5M in cap space this year and next to improve roster.
Win win. And they wouldn't have to attach big a asset to rid themselves of the contract (or most of it).
Buyout on Zack Smith is $1.1M for four years (actual dollars). $4.4M total. Cap hit of $1.1M for all four years.
Buyout on David Backes is $667k for four years (actual dollars). $2.667M total. Cap hit of $5.7M, $3.7M, $667k, and $667k.
Ottawa would get what they want. Big cap hit next two years to stay above cap floor and save almost $2M in actual dollars over the next two years. Bruins get almost $5M in cap space this year and next to improve roster.
Win win. And they wouldn't have to attach big a asset to rid themselves of the contract (or most of it).
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the zack smith stuff is intriguing. especially on july 2. ottawa gets big time cap hit at less real dollars than smith.
throw them a decent prospect and get it done. can either keep smith as a depth guy or buy him out for a very
reasonable cap hit.
I like the idea of adding Smith, he could skate third line left wing with Coyle, and whoever fills the right wing spot. Gives us another decent sized forward that hits.
Maybe a good 'hockey' trade moving Krug for a winger with a year left would help too. Kreider, Schenn, Toffolli, they all fit that bill.
Maybe a good 'hockey' trade moving Krug for a winger with a year left would help too. Kreider, Schenn, Toffolli, they all fit that bill.
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