Player Discussion Alexander Ovechkin (Vol. 3)

[Raikkonen]

If I had to handicap it I'd say Ovie is the singular favorite but I'd take the field over Ovie.

Historically, that wasnt a good bet

 

[illicit]

What's everyone's consensus on Ovi breaking 99's goal record? Given his history, lack of injuries and absolutely insane scoring pace to start the year, it's only a matter of time for me. The real question is whether he can do it by the time he's 40. Thoughts?

 

[Hivemind]

What's everyone's consensus on Ovi breaking 99's goal record? Given his history, lack of injuries and absolutely insane scoring pace to start the year, it's only a matter of time for me. The real question is whether he can do it by the time he's 40. Thoughts?

Jinx post is a jinx

 

[illicit]

Jinx post is a jinx

Not if you don't believe in that kinda stuff

 

[Heisen]

He’s got it locked up based on his current ability to still score, and comparing him to Jagr’s ability age 39+, should he need the extra years, he will be able to pot enough goals to stretch it out. Avoiding injury is all he needs.

Shame Jagr didn’t play in the NHL age 36-38 to compare... but I think these are very comparable scorers, very comparable athletically, and my opinion is Ovi > Jagr, slightly.

So Ovi passes Gretzky, If he wants to.

 

[txpd]

He’s got it locked up based on his current ability to still score, and comparing him to Jagr’s ability age 39+, should he need the extra years, he will be able to pot enough goals to stretch it out. Avoiding injury is all he needs.

Shame Jagr didn’t play in the NHL age 36-38 to compare... but I think these are very comparable scorers, very comparable athletically, and my opinion is Ovi > Jagr, slightly.

So Ovi passes Gretzky, If he wants to.

It's a shame Jagr didn't show up all those years he was taking money from Ted

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

It's a shame Jagr didn't show up all those years he was taking money from Ted

On the other hand, his suckitude ended up helping the Caps get Ovie.

 

[Raikkonen]

What's everyone's consensus on Ovi breaking 99's goal record? Given his history, lack of injuries and absolutely insane scoring pace to start the year, it's only a matter of time for me. The real question is whether he can do it by the time he's 40. Thoughts?

The difference between 800 and 900 is significant. 800 is almost a given, and then nobody will question Ovi anymore. Will he find enough motivation?

Injuries can happen too.

Best thing he can do (and I already said that a year ago or smth) - get to ~760 in the end of season 2020-21 (when his current contract expires). That's 36 years old practically. At that point he will know much better if his body likes the grind still.

A lot of games left.

He can get 800+ and retire.

 

[Devil Dancer]

What's everyone's consensus on Ovi breaking 99's goal record? Given his history, lack of injuries and absolutely insane scoring pace to start the year, it's only a matter of time for me. The real question is whether he can do it by the time he's 40. Thoughts?

Until last year I always said no way, no chance. Now, who knows? He keeps scoring 50 every year, and it looks like he has a great chance to do it again.

So I'm starting to think he CAN do it. That doesn't mean he WILL do it. Does he really want to stay here grinding out 20-30 goal seasons until he's 40+? It doesn't sound like it from his public comments.

 

[Midnight Judges]

What's everyone's consensus on Ovi breaking 99's goal record? Given his history, lack of injuries and absolutely insane scoring pace to start the year, it's only a matter of time for me. The real question is whether he can do it by the time he's 40. Thoughts?

30% chance IMO.

Comparing raw stats between the high scoring era and now is not indicative though. By any indicative measure, Ovie will blow Gretzky out of the water in terms of career goals scored.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Say that Ovie scores 55 goals this year and 50 next year. That would have him at 763.

4 years of 35 goals = 140 goals.

That's 903 goals.

These aren't unreasonable numbers for Ovie.

If he wants to do it, he'll do it.

 

[Hivemind]

Baaaaaad juju. Bad bad juju

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

30% chance IMO.

Comparing raw stats between the high scoring era and now is not indicative though. By any indicative measure, Ovie will blow Gretzky out of the water in terms of career goals scored.

Break the record or you don’t. Comparative stuff is nice, but the actual record is the prize.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Baaaaaad juju. Bad bad juju

No such thing.

Anyway, I've been saying it for years.

 

[zappa4ever]

What's everyone's consensus on Ovi breaking 99's goal record? Given his history, lack of injuries and absolutely insane scoring pace to start the year, it's only a matter of time for me. The real question is whether he can do it by the time he's 40. Thoughts?

Hitting 800, catching Howe at 801 and taking #2 outright at 802 are the (realistic) numbers I'd love him to get to.
Which could happen at the end of 2021-22 season (very doubtful) if he can manage 47g average
Add another 3 seasons to break The Record in 2024-25 is a tall tall order;
no one can predict 6 seasons ahead, where his head will be, his body, his game, his desire after 20+ seasons

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

He's hitting 1000.

 

[Raikkonen]

He's hitting 1000.

Gross

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Just another multi goal game for Ovie. *Ho hum*

2 goals 1 assist and 3 points +1 and 8 shots on goal. Throw in 2 hits, as well.

Ovechkin now 39th all time in points scored with 1,233, passing Phil Housley.

Tied with some guy named Crosby, as well.

Also of note, Ovie now has 199 more goals than any other Capital.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Oh and this was Ovie’s 136th multi goal game which passes Mike Gartner for 4th all time.

Nice work by the Captain.

 

[txpd]

Ive noticed the last few years that Ovechkin is bringing new elements of his game each year. Like going to the net for more rebounds and deflections. Passing more of his scoring chances away. My theory is that he has had these elements at his disposal all along but didn't use them. As his game evolves he reveals more of his reserve.

I also think this new Reirden system plays right into what Ov does. His shots on goal and scoring chance rates are ridiculous. You can make a fair case that he is better now than 5 years ago. How can he regress when he continues to improve?

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

He’s evolving his game as his speed and stick handling decline (just normal aging).

Positive coaching impact IMO.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Ive noticed the last few years that Ovechkin is bringing new elements of his game each year. Like going to the net for more rebounds and deflections. Passing more of his scoring chances away. My theory is that he has had these elements at his disposal all along but didn't use them. As his game evolves he reveals more of his reserve.

I also think this new Reirden system plays right into what Ov does. His shots on goal and scoring chance rates are ridiculous. You can make a fair case that he is better now than 5 years ago. How can he regress when he continues to improve?

The best coaches build around the talent they have. A more aggressive, attacking style is right in Ovie's wheelhouse.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Everyday I'm thankful for my wife, my kids, our health and good fortune, and the fact that Alex Ovechkin is a Washington Capital.

 

[trick9]

I'm considering throwing a party the day Ovechkin knocks Super Mario out of the top-10 goalscorer list. That's going to be a glorious moment.

 

[Ginger Papa]

Long time lurker, relatively newer member coming in peace. I’ve had a “Respected Players (Current) Thread going on the Main Board. Ovie has been mentioned by many of the other fan bases and I just wanted to share some positive thoughts. Full disclosure:I’ve liked your captain ever since the sliding on his back goal in Phoenix. I loved him when I saw this exchange with Carey.

Cheers from the West Coast