Player Discussion Alexander Ovechkin (Vol. 2)

[maacoshark]

It's getting a little frustrating that he's looking to pass now instead of shooting. Especially on the power play

Sometimes I feel he takes very low percentage shots. He will shoot without looking to see if there is another option. The shots he takes that kill us are the ones from a sharp angle. When he misses the net so often the puck clears the zone. He has been passing a bit more lately. Sometimes when he is in a good spot to shoot from. The last game he had 3 secondary assists. A lot of times he would shoot those instead of making the pass. I liked his decision to pass in those situations rather than shoot.

 

[Chukcha]

It's getting a little frustrating that he's looking to pass now instead of shooting. Especially on the power play

imo, it's mostly Carlson's fault. His feeds are either too slow and dmen cover Ovi, or simply not accurate for making a one-timer.

 

[Sam Spade]

Ovechkin's been the Caps MVP this season, only Carlson and Holtby are even close, and they are not that close.

Above and beyond what I, and most us I bet, expected from him.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

imo, it's mostly Carlson's fault. His feeds are either too slow and dmen cover Ovi, or simply not accurate for making a one-timer.

Yes. Mike Green and Shatteredhopes both could feed Ovie on the PP. They both had a knack for it.
Carlson doesn’t do it very well, sadly.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

It's getting a little frustrating that he's looking to pass now instead of shooting. Especially on the power play

I like that they are changing things up. Teams prepare for a shoot first and ask questions later Ovie. Seems to be throwing a monkey wrench in things when Ovie is passing.

 

[maacoshark]

imo, it's mostly Carlson's fault. His feeds are either too slow and dmen cover Ovi, or simply not accurate for making a one-timer.

I wouldn't blame it all on Carlson. They have had trouble getting that one timer. Some of it has to do with not getting the puck to Carlson quick enough. Carlson has put the puck in Ovi skates quite a but lately. I also think teams are cheating on the play. The pk needs a tweak. I really liked the play Backstrom made from behind the net on Carlson's goal.

 

[maacoshark]

Yes. Mike Green and Shatteredhopes both could feed Ovie on the PP. They both had a knack for it.
Carlson doesn’t do it very well, sadly.

How can you say that about Shattenkirk? How many games did he play for us?

 

[Sam Spade]

Yes. Mike Green and Shatteredhopes both could feed Ovie on the PP. They both had a knack for it.
Carlson doesn’t do it very well, sadly.

Only half a season left than it will be Orlov or Djoos feeding him.

 

[Chukcha]

Only half a season left than it will be Orlov or Djoos feeding him.

they should practice hard on velocity and accuracy of backhand sauces

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

How can you say that about Shattenkirk? How many games did he play for us?

Shattenkirk gave Ovechkin as many clean passes in the 35 games he played for us as Carlson did in a full season. His passes were not only accurate but creative too. He is really good on the PP, no doubt about that.

 

[Chukcha]

I wouldn't blame it all on Carlson. They have had trouble getting that one timer. Some of it has to do with not getting the puck to Carlson quick enough. Carlson has put the puck in Ovi skates quite a but lately. I also think teams are cheating on the play. The pk needs a tweak. I really liked the play Backstrom made from behind the net on Carlson's goal.

hmm, you know you're right. The PP unit looks very static when established in the O-zone. Opposing dmen easily keep the position, and Carlson very often has no room and time to make a quality feed. Though Green did it better in the same environment.

 

[maacoshark]

Shattenkirk gave Ovechkin as many clean passes in the 35 games he played for us as Carlson did in a full season. His passes were not only accurate but creative too. He is really good on the PP, no doubt about that.

Shattenkirk didnt play 35 games for us. If he was that good on that pass to Ovi then why did he only have 6 assists on the pp for us last season.

 

[maacoshark]

hmm, you know you're right. The PP unit looks very static when established in the O-zone. Opposing dmen easily keep the position, and Carlson very often has no room and time to make a quality feed. Though Green did it better in the same environment.

What made Green successful on the pp was his mobility. He was good at walking the line.

 

[Hivemind]

Shattenkirk didnt play 35 games for us. If he was that good on that pass to Ovi then why did he only have 6 assists on the pp for us last season.

Shattenkirk played 19 regular season games and 13 playoff games for the Capitals, for a total of 32 games.

"Only" 6 PPA assists in 19 regular season games is a lot. That's 0.315 PPA/GP. For reference, Sidney Crosby is averaging 0.30 PPA/GP so far this season. Kuznetsov and Carlson are at 0.275 PPA/GP. Backstrom is at 0.256 PPA/GP.

 

[maacoshark]

Shattenkirk played 19 regular season games and 13 playoff games for the Capitals, for a total of 32 games.

"Only" 6 PPA assists in 19 regular season games is a lot. That's 0.315 PPA/GP. For reference, Sidney Crosby is averaging 0.30 PPA/GP so far this season. Kuznetsov and Carlson are at 0.275 PPA/GP. Backstrom is at 0.256 PPA/GP.

I know how many games he played. And it was less than 35. I also know what his stats were. I'm saying 19 games isn't enough games to really determine how good he is on the pp.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

100th career GWG for Ovie and 22nd career OT goal.

He is the man!

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Whoever it was that suggested he shoot less....malarkey!

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Whoever it was that suggested he shoot less....malarkey!

He needs to be a little less predictable. Sometimes he should shoot and sometimes pass.

In this incidence, he faked a slap shot and then zipped it by Ward. Definitely worked on a pretty good Dman in Slavin as he got fooled. Unpredictable Ovie is a dangerous Ovie.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

A passing Ovy is a less dangerous Ovy. Sure, be less predictable....I’d love that, but I want him putting pucks on net.

 

[maacoshark]

A passing Ovy is a less dangerous Ovy. Sure, be less predictable....I’d love that, but I want him putting pucks on net.

For sure Ovi is a shooter but there are times that he takes very low percentage shots.
I remember when I was coaching basketball. I had one kid that was a very skilled player but tried to do everything himself and wouldn't pass. He was worried about his points. He shot from everywhere, sometimes with a couple guys all over him. Sure he scored a lot but the rest of the team scoring was down. It took awhile but I convinced him to try to utilize his teammates more. He started passing more and making wiser decisions. His assists went up. His shooting percentage went up and his scoring wasn't effected at all.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Ovy is a volume shooter...if I have one of the best shooters of all time on my team....I say fire away if you've got the clear shot.

 

[ovikovy817]

Ovechkin's been the Caps MVP this season, only Carlson and Holtby are even close, and they are not that close.

Above and beyond what I, and most us I bet, expected from him.

Fortunately we didn't trade him in the offseason

 

[Raikkonen]

Fortunately we didn't trade him in the offseason

Should have trade them all.
One is over the hill, one is sell high and the goatlender is crapping the bed every playoffs.
How come they are still there is not comprehendible.

We could have had major cap space.

 

[hockeykicker]

Should have trade them all.
One is over the hill, one is sell high and the goatlender is crapping the bed every playoffs.
How come they are still there is not comprehendible.

We could have had major cap space.

Braden Holtby is #1 all time in save percentage in the playoffs but ok

 

[Sam Spade]

Should have trade them all.
One is over the hill, one is sell high and the goatlender is crapping the bed every playoffs.
How come they are still there is not comprehendible.

We could have had major cap space.

No sarcasm here at all. You are aware that the NHL, and it's teams, are a part of a business right? And the only way most of these teams make money is from gate receipts?