Player Discussion Alexander Edler | Contract + trade dicussion, continued

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  1. Zombotron

    Zombotron DAE 2016 trade deadline? :)

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    Ronning On Empty Formerly BleachClean

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    I suspect that this trope has continued because people refuse to categorize NHL players as business contractors. When an action is taken against a player, people default to seeing that as an action taken against them, to their person. That's what informs their response. Instead, that action should be interpreted as an employer conducting business involving his business contractor.

    When the act of subverting the letter of the contract is applied to that concept, the reaction is doubtful to be as visceral. IMO, people should re-frame the act of pushing someone to waive their NTC. It's a business move, nothing more.



    Well, they want him or the return he will garner. They don't want him to walk for nothing.

    Jim was pretty coy about bringing Edler back earlier on this season. He also asked Edler to waive his NTC and Edler refused. Given that information, it appears that Jim wanted to explore the route of asset return over player retention. That was his displayed "need" for Edler until now.

    For his part, Edler chose to lean on his NTC and put JB to a dilemma: Let Edler walk for nothing or re-sign him (the initial options Jim was probably considering). It's still Benning's choice to choose to operate within that framework. The only way outside of that framework is to seriously consider letting Edler walk for nothing. That was something he was unprepared to do.

    In other words, if Jim had any hope of trading Edler, or Edler doing anything different than he had already done, he needed to take away Edler's hope of returning first. Then, everything shifts.
     
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    Yeah, if the ultimate plan was trade then re-sign, they couldn't let that cat out of the bag. They needed to treat him like Garrison. At the end of the day I'm not that worked up over retaining him...until we see the contract at least.
     
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    Where was this stated?
     
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    Hindustan Smyl 2020/2021 = Canucks being a contender

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  6. Ronning On Empty

    Ronning On Empty Formerly BleachClean

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    I didn't get back to you on this: Source is the Patcast,but I don't remember if it was the latest episode or the one before. Halford and Brough have also mentioned that they have heard the same.

    Grain of salt though.

    Also: When Benning was on Walker/Rintoul, they asked him if he had approached Edler this year about a trade or re-signing. Benning said that he hadn't spoken with him. After Benning hangs up, Rintoul and Walker imply that they do not fully trust everything that Benning relays. That it's far easier for him to say that he hadn't spoken with Edler, than to divulge information he does not want to divulge at this point in time.
     
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    Sounds like its facial plus possible concussion. Good news is his leg/knee doesnt seem broken. Looked like he was wearing an air cast when he was strechered off.

    Get well soon Eddy
     
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    Facial can be really bad—Fowler just missed 3-ish months after requiring reconstructive surgery.
     
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    I doubt this injury is serious. Edler will conveniently out for 3 weeks to allow the trade deadline to come and go without any speculation to as why Dim Jim didn't try and seek a trade and then re-sign him July 1. Then he'll be re-signed soon after. Easiest route for a player who doesn't like change and loves the comforts of the country club culture of Vancouver and an owner/GM who is scared of actually rebuilding. Could of seen this coming a mile away.
     
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    The hell did i just read ??

    Easiest route ever?

    Theres gotta be an easier way before settling on a break my face on the ice plan

    Lmao im sure Edler planned to break his face tnt so that he wouldnt get traded.
     
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    Edler did this on purpose. :sarcasm:
     
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    Watch Benning sign edler to a long term deal and edler promptly suffers from lingering post concussion symptoms that derail his career
     
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    Yea I don’t agree with you often but that was a dumb take if I’ve ever heard one, right up there with the poster that said Scott Stevens was “maybe” a franchise defensemen
     
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    So Edler's stick finally got revenge for all it's broken brothers.

    Can't wait until Edler is back and breaks a few of those ****ers to remind them who is in charge.

    I think he'll be "ok" though, relatively speaking. It looked bad, but I don't think Edler has much concussion history. Had the potential to be a lot worse, people falling and hitting their head on hard surfaces is no joke, but right now it seems like he got relatively lucky with some degree of broken face.

    Also the Cancuks post was quality IMO. You all need to get a sense of humour!
     
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    Totally. Easiest way to do this was to purposely smash your face off the ice so hard you lay in a pool of your own blood unconscious and get stretchered off the ice. I honestly don’t know why more players wouldn’t do it that way
     
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    We’ll see how he feels when he wakes up tomorrow. Him walking around after the game is a good sign for now, but this could drastically change as quickly as tomorrow morning.
     
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    Megaterio Llamas creating a safe work environment

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    Man that looked bad. Hoping he’s okay :(
     
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    Wow this is an idiotic post. It’s all a conspiracy junior
     
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    Well that puts an end to all Edler trade talk.

    Looked horrific. Hope he recovers back to 100%.
     
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    Hopefully the damage looked worse then it really is! Best of luck the rest of the season.
     
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    Agree. Benning wants to keep a low stress environment where hard decisions don't have to be made.
     
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    ProstheticConscience Let 'er ryp.

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