Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by The Roy Of Ottawa, Dec 15, 2019.
I hope he breaks the record. He's already the GOAT goal scorer IMO when you consider era.
He's going to have Carlson and Backstrom the rest of his career. Washington should be a competitive team until he retires.
Might as well start his 800 watch now. Could hit it later in the season.
And he will be the LAST player who has a decent chance to do it, believe that.
To be fair, Wayne's first 8 years positively dwarf Ovi's first 8 years just like they dwarf anyone and everyone else's first 8 years. Its been through sheer force of consistency and durability that Ovi even has a chance to catch up. Ovi's post age 30 goal scoring could dwarf Gretzky's post age 30 goal totals, and that would have been hard for anyone to predict back when Ovi first broke in.
he's just not slowing down.
I think the fewest games was in 2009-10, when he scored his 40th goal in his 51st game.
As a reminder to others, that was the season he scored 65 goals and got his career high of 112 points. What a legend.
That would be 913. And includes him falling off a cliff. When in reality he’s (somehow) inclining right now.
Despite HFBoards narratives he’s never struggled in the post season with fatigue so I’m not even worried. In fact I liken OV to a basketball or baseball player in a heater, once he gets going he is hot for a while. He’s really not all that streaky of a player
The neat thing about OV is where he gets the bulk of his goals from. As long as his shot is still there I can see him putting up good seasons for quite a while, he will pass Gretzky(which is actually good for the sport) and become the top goal scorer in NHL history. Imagine the pride the folks in Russia would feel?
Why? It's easier to score in the nhl now than it was when ovy started.
Brother and I snagged tickets last week to the Caps/Islanders game on this coming Monday trying to project out when he’d hit 700. He texted me w/ around 10 minutes left in the 3rd last night that it looked like we were out of luck and he’d get it on the road trip following that game. One 6-minute, game-winning hat trick later and now we’re worried he hits it against the Flyers on Saturday.
Can't speak for that guy, but here's why I don't think anyone else is going to be coming close to 900 goals... probably ever:
# of 50+ goal seasons in the 15 seasons since Ovie entered the league (2005-2006 to 2019-2020):
1. Alex Ovechkin, 8
2. Dany Heatley, 2
3. Ilya Kovalchuk, 2
4. Steven Stamkos, 2
5. Jonathan Cheechoo, 1
6. Sidney Crosby, 1
7. Leon Draisaitl, 1
8. Jarome Iginla, 1
9. Jaromir Jagr, 1
10. Vincent Lecavalier, 1
11. Evgeni Malkin, 1
12. Corey Perry, 1
Total 50+ goal seasons: 22
This isn't just "best in the league", it's 4x more than the next closest. He has more than #2-5 combined. His level of dominance, in goal scoring, is literally unheard of. I sincerely doubt we ever see it again, which is what we need for someone to even have a chance of 900 in the future.
For reference, here are the # of 50+ goal seasons in the 15 seasons from 1975-1976 to 1989-1990:
1. Wayne Gretzky, 9
2. Mike Bossy, 9
3. Marcel Dionne, 6
4. Guy Lafleur, 5
5. Michel Goulet, 4
6. Tim Kerr, 4
7. Jari Kurri, 4
8. Mario Lemieux, 3
9. Rick Vaive, 3
10. Steve Yzerman, 3
11-22. 11 players, 2
23-48. 26 players, 1
Total 50+ goal seasons: 98
True, but 894 is ridiculous even in the highest scoring era.
And he did it in the dead puck era. Or for most parts of it. One of the greatest goal scorers in history without reservations.
this post does a great job of putting Ovie's level achievement in context. he is simply peerless.
In 2007-8, his 65 goal season, he scored 4 goals in a game twice that season. He had one hatty too.
In 2013-14, he scored 4 in a game once.
Let's see it again!
Gretzky essentially fell off a cliff goal scoring after age 31 or so. That is what generally happens, but Ovi is just a freak of nature. Gretzky back injury didn't help matters, but facts are he fell off before the injury. Still probably would have added 50-70 goals to Gretzky if not for the injury though.
The dead puck era ended with the 04-05 lockout, so he never played in that league. He would have still dominated I'm sure though.
Thanks for posting those statistics, it really illustrates how dominant he has been. It's been amazing getting to watch him these past 15 years.
Gretzky, Jagr, and Dionne all scored #700 vs the Isles.
This is the way.
You have spoken.
Big deal, in like 2 years we'll have the 800 watch
I'm ok with that.
Please baby Jesus let him hit 700 against the Islanders tonight because if he doesn't, it's 100% happening against the Avs on Thursday.
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