AL CY Young Finalists-Sale not Included

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

I'm surprised by no Sale, I feel like he might've won. Who ya got?

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[Terry Yake]

snell would get my vote

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Depends how you weigh workload and innings. Sale only went 158 inning this year. He pitched 200+ innings the last 3 years.

Klubot and JV both pitched 215+ innings but their numbers were slightly worse than Sales.

Snell went 180 innings but had a sub 2 ERA...I think he wins it.

 

[MS]

Snell led the AL in WAR and ERA (and wins too for the traditionalists) and should win this easily.

 

[tony d]

Snell should win this. As to Sale, he's a good one but he missed a lot of time this yr., I think that cost him from being a finalist.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Snell for sure.

 

[darko]

Out of those 3? Verlander.

 

[DougieSmash]

Verlander, please.

 

[c9777666]

Sale missed way too much time beginning in late July.

 

[Halladay]

Verlander easily.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Verlander easily.

You must really value bb/k ratio because I don't see how anyone could take Verlander easily over Snell.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

You must really value bb/k ratio because I don't see how anyone could take Verlander easily over Snell.

or thinks wins, ERA, ERA+ and WAR are witch craft

 

[darko]

You must really value bb/k ratio because I don't see how anyone could take Verlander easily over Snell.

Verlander has a lower xFIP than Snell while Snell blows him away in ERA+. I don't like the fact that Snell threw 34 innings less than Verlander. That's about 5 starts.

 

[darko]

or thinks wins, ERA, ERA+ and WAR are witch craft

ERA is a somewhat flawed stat. Wins are a useless stat.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Verlander has a lower xFIP than Snell while Snell blows him away in ERA+. I don't like the fact that Snell threw 34 innings less than Verlander. That's about 5 starts.

if they were close in stats, I'd agree with you. but Snell has a healthy lead.

1.89 vs 2.52 in ERA
219 vs 159 in ERA+
7.5 vs 6.2 in WAR

 

[darko]

if they were close in stats, I'd agree with you. but Snell has a healthy lead.

1.89 vs 2.52 in ERA
219 vs 159 in ERA+
7.5 vs 6.2 in WAR

He doesn't have a lead in xFIP which is a better indicator than ERA and also in fWAR.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

He doesn't have a lead in xFIP which is a better indicator than ERA and also in fWAR.

Results don't always dictate how dominant a pitcher was, but they matter to me when determining a cy young when other peripherals are similar. Verlander was more dominant but Snell gave up less.