After Tom Wilson comes back what are you expecting?

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After Tom Wilson comes back what are you expecting?

  1. He learned his lesson and still plays hard but keeps it legal

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  2. He keeps it mostly legal with a full questionable hits for the rest of his career

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  3. He comes back completely neutered and is a shell of his former self

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  4. He stays clean for the rest of the season and slowly reverts back to his old ways

    25.9%
  5. Nothing changes and he gets suspended within 20 games of coming back.

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  1. MattMartin

    MattMartin Judas Tavares

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    Which of the options do you think will occur?

    Edit: I meant a "few" questionable hits not "full".
     
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  2. Empoleon8771

    Empoleon8771 It's Sprong's Fault

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    No change with him, he's just too dumb of a player to make any changes. I don't think his problem is that he's intentionally a cheap shot artist, like someone like Cooke or Torres, his problem is that he's just too dumb to not throw dirty hits.
     
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  3. MattMartin

    MattMartin Judas Tavares

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    I honestly can see it going anyway. The next suspension would be probably near 40 games and maybe a season if a 2nd occurs. I think if he wants to play in the NHL he now has to know this will be lengthy and costly if he keeps it up.
     
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    With his new contract I think it will be legal with questionable hits and probably another suspension
     
  5. LeafGrief

    LeafGrief We're keeping Nylander

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    I imagine a scenario where he comes out and plays the first few games timid and is completely ineffective. A huge portion of that contract is for him to be a wrecking ball, so he will slowly start to regain his edge in order to be an effective player. The positive feedback from fans, teammates, and the scoresheet will encourage him further. Almost inevitably he crosses the line again and gets suspended for another 40 games. The question in my mind is, how long does that process take? 15 games?
     
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    There are a lot of posts along these lines - I think mostly driven by emotion (which is understandable).

    I do not know what basis you have to judge his intelligence. I've watched his whole career and seen interviews but I don't feel as though I know how smart he is or isn't.
     
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    He scored 15 points in 21 playoff games last season. Maybe a couple of those points had anything to do with hitting.
     
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    i know he will continue to live rent free in domes
     
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    LeafGrief We're keeping Nylander

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    He has a career high of 35 points in 78 games. He's not getting paid $5m+ for 35 points a year and a single great playoff run. His physicality is a huge part of what makes him effective and the value that he brings to his team.
     
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    I went with option 2.
    Tigers generally don't change their spots.
     
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    I would've picked the first one, but the first choice show no accountability for the players that are putting themselves into a vulnerable position.
     
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    I'm surprised I'm so far in the minority with option 3, so I guess I'll elaborate.

    He doesn't try to hit people high, he just plays hard and recklessly so it happens from time to time. He can't afford another escalating suspension, and the only way for him to eliminate those dangerous hits is just to stop playing like he does. Of course, that's what makes him effective so he'll just be a neutered version of himself.

    He's locked in to a lot of money over the duration of his contract, as long as he can keep it legal and keep getting paid. If he's careful, he won't need big money contracts after this one is over.
     
  14. Sidney the Kidney

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    Nothing changes. I don't think Wilson thinks any of his hits are dirty, so in his mind, why change?
     
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    A dirty hit on his first shift.
     
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    Perhaps but his physicality is simply no longer allowed in this league.

    More than his physicality, he is paid to play and contribute.
     
  17. Machinehead

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    I have to disagree on the second part. I think he knows exactly what he's doing and just doesn't care.
     
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    "Rage on the mainboards" wasnt an option. Disappointing.
     
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    He kills a New York Islander
     
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    I think it'll be a combination. He'll come back neutered for a little while, probably playing hard and hustling but throwing much fewer hits. Then he'll start ramping it up because of criticism that he's not worth that contract so he'll play hard with some questionable hits. Then he's going to get another long suspension. He'll probably cycle that a few times then finish off his contract playing a much more neutered game.
     
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    I'll give him 10 games before he's suspended again TBH
     
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    I think he would have learned his lesson. He forked up over 1m+ with his current suspension. Next time he does something stupid he may fork over a years salary. He wont get this type of money on his next contract if he keeps doing it.
     
  23. EdJovanovski

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    He’ll continue to be a relatively clean but aggressive player who’s under a microscope where people label everything he does as dirty when other players do worse all the time
     
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    TheMule93 On a mule rides the swindler

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    Still won't hit 40 points but will enjoy $5 million dollar salary
     
  25. MattMartin

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    Looked good last night in his 1st game back.
     

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