Player Discussion Adam Larsson (Hall talk will result in a thread ban)

[harpoon]

The team is struggling mightly, has Larsson also under-performed?

Massively.

 

[3IR]

IMO Russell moves to open up some cap for forward help.

Im weary of moving any of our dmen really unless were bringing in a better one.

Move Russell, klefbom hurts himself in TC, and suddenly our top 4 dmen will be

Sekera Larsson
Nurse Benning

Ideally we could move him to free up space, have klef stay healthy, and maybe even a rookie show well and grab a top 4 spot if injuries occur, but counting on klefbom to be healthy is like counting on Lucic for goals.

When your number 1 dman is as fragile as klef, we need to either replace him, or stock the rest of the dcore with guys who have proven they can play in the top 4 imo.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Im weary of moving any of our dmen really unless were bringing in a better one.

Move Russell, klefbom hurts himself in TC, and suddenly our top 4 dmen will be

Sekera Larsson
Nurse Benning

Ideally we could move him to free up space, have klef stay healthy, and maybe even a rookie show well and grab a top 4 spot if injuries occur, but counting on klefbom to be healthy is like counting on Lucic for goals.

When your number 1 dman is as fragile as klef, we need to either replace him, or stock the rest of the dcore with guys who have proven they can play in the top 4 imo.

Guys like Jones, Bear, Bouchard, Laggeson, Day (if we sign him) and Samorukov will be chomping at the bit to get some NHL reps. The hope is that if we improve our forward offense that we can hang into more games if our GA goes up due to a Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera or Nurse injury. These ELC defensemen also allow us more cap to add forwards up front. All of these D with the exception on Laggeson bring much needed puck moving ability from the blueline.

 

[brentashton]

I guess i am going in for a banning but I don’t understand why there is so much love for Laarson. He was a poor mans trade for Hall. That s all. Laasrson sucks, thats it. I hoper Petterdson or Pederrson sucks it tonight. Good luck oilers. Go Gagner and Draisaital

 

[Aerrol]

I guess i am going in for a banningbut I don’t understand why there is so much love for laarson. He was a poor mans trade for Hall. That s all. Laasrson sucks, thats it. I hoper petterdson or pederrson sucks it tonight. Good luck oilers. Gho gagner and draistal

 

[3IR]

Guys like Jones, Bear, Bouchard, Laggeson, Day (if we sign him) and Samorukov will be chomping at the bit to get some NHL reps. The hope is that if we improve our forward offense that we can hang into more games if our GA goes up due to a Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera or Nurse injury. These ELC defensemen also allow us more cap to add forwards up front. All of these D with the exception on Laggeson bring much needed puck moving ability from the blueline.

I just don't want any of them to be expected to be NHL regulars next year. I know they should be, but the less question marks we have going into next season the better.

From what I've read, we should have room to bring in a forward or two next season with the cap going up and us walking away from some of our ufas right?

The forwards 100% need improvement, but if we don't absolutely need the capspace, then we should hold onto Russell. If they bring in a couple of top 6 guys and a third line C and it Russell is the casualty to facilitate those moves, so be it, I just don't want them moving anyone out unless we're greatly improved elsewhere already, or a rookie has already begun proving himself as a good NHL dman.

 

[Panda Bear]

It always blows my mind when people think Larsson can't skate, can't pass and can't contribute offensively.

He's not fast, but he's a smooth skater with good technique.

He can pass. If a team is scrambling and has poor puck support, then sometimes passing opportunities aren't there.

Just watch his movement when he actually joins the cycle.

Jesus.

 

[Little Fury]

When his contract is up, he’s a prime candidate to just walk away from. At 29, with his back issues, yea, let someone else overpay him on a five year deal.

You trade him before that happens.

 

[Little Fury]

It always blows my mind when people think Larsson can't skate, can't pass and can't contribute offensively.

He's not fast, but he's a smooth skater with good technique.

He can pass. If a team is scrambling and has poor puck support, then sometimes passing opportunities aren't there.

Just watch his movement when he actually joins the cycle.

Jesus.

When he's at his best, sure. But even you have to admit he hasn't been at his best for going on two seasons now. Sure the team in front has problems but given his pedigree and the Price We Had to Pay(TM), you want a guy who can elevate those around him a bit.

 

[Canovin]

When he's at his best, sure. But even you have to admit he hasn't been at his best for going on two seasons now. Sure the team in front has problems but given his pedigree and the Price We Had to Pay(TM), you want a guy who can elevate those around him a bit.

Maybe Larsson is only as good as a middle pairing D and that's okay. It doesn't matter what we paid for him. It's gone. Just bring in a better RD and move Larsson down to the middle pairing. We have the assets to acquire someone like Hamilton/Spurgeon

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Maybe Larsson is only as good as a middle pairing D and that's okay. It doesn't matter what we paid for him. It's gone. Just bring in a better RD and move Larsson down to the middle pairing. We have the assets to acquire someone like Hamilton/Spurgeon

We do?

 

[Perfect_Drug]

When he's at his best, sure. But even you have to admit he hasn't been at his best for going on two seasons now. Sure the team in front has problems but given his pedigree and the Price We Had to Pay(TM), you want a guy who can elevate those around him a bit.

We pay him $4.167 million a year. He is exceeding that.

What we used to trade him is irrelevant, any more than expecting Gelinas and Carter to replace Gretzky, or Nicholls to replace Messier.


Larsson is a top pairing Dman at his best, and a middle pairing at worst.
We are paying him middle-pairing money.



Lets not run one of the only competant RHD on a fair contract out of town.

 

[Canovin]

We do?

Not sure if you're being serious

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Not sure if you're being serious

I’m not sure if you are. Other than our first round pick what assets do we have?

 

[Canovin]

I’m not sure if you are. Other than our first round pick what assets do we have?

Our 1st and Russell can't return Spurgeon?

 

[CornKicker]

We pay him $4.167 million a year. He is exceeding that.

What we used to trade him is irrelevant, any more than expecting Gelinas and Carter to replace Gretzky, or Nicholls to replace Messier.


Larsson is a top pairing Dman at his best, and a middle pairing at worst.
We are paying him middle-pairing money.



Lets not run one of the only competant RHD on a fair contract out of town.

lol you mean like we did to petry and schultz

 

[Little Fury]

Maybe Larsson is only as good as a middle pairing D and that's okay. It doesn't matter what we paid for him. It's gone. Just bring in a better RD and move Larsson down to the middle pairing. We have the assets to acquire someone like Hamilton/Spurgeon

LOL no we don't.

 

[Little Fury]

We pay him $4.167 million a year. He is exceeding that.

What we used to trade him is irrelevant, any more than expecting Gelinas and Carter to replace Gretzky, or Nicholls to replace Messier.

Larsson is a top pairing Dman at his best, and a middle pairing at worst.
We are paying him middle-pairing money.

Lets not run one of the only competant RHD on a fair contract out of town.

Pointing out that he hasn't been up to snuff is not "running him out of town." Christ.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Our 1st and Russell can't return Spurgeon?

Why would the Wild trade their best defenseman for that? Russell has next to no value.

 

[Little Fury]

Our 1st and Russell can't return Spurgeon?

Probably not, no.

 

[Canovin]

Why would the Wild trade their best defenseman for that? Russell has next to no value.

Wilds has to protect Suter, Dumba, Brodin, Spurgeon. Spurgeon is the odd man out especially if he doesn't plan on re-signing after next year. They're also rebuilding and their GM is Fenton. Good chance they don't get full value for Spurgeon

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Wilds has to protect Suter, Dumba, Brodin, Spurgeon. Spurgeon is the odd man out especially if he doesn't plan on re-signing after next year. They're also rebuilding and their GM is Fenton. Good chance they don't get full value for Spurgeon

Which is still more than our junk defenseman and a pick. If he doesn’t plan on re signing with the Wild why would he re-sign with us?

 

[Canovin]

Which is still more than our junk defenseman and a pick. If he doesn’t plan on re signing with the Wild why would he re-sign with us?

Spurgeon is from Edmonton and spends his summer here. Anyway enough derailing the thread

 

[space321]

We pay him $4.167 million a year. He is exceeding that.

What we used to trade him is irrelevant, any more than expecting Gelinas and Carter to replace Gretzky, or Nicholls to replace Messier.


Larsson is a top pairing Dman at his best, and a middle pairing at worst.
We are paying him middle-pairing money.



Lets not run one of the only competant RHD on a fair contract out of town.

The problem is Larsson is playing BELOW his contract this season.

Klefbom is about evenly paid and Larsson << Klefbom.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

I mean if you guys are done with this year, that's fine, go be done with it.

He's an OBC hack.