News Article: According to Pierre McGuire, Wings frontrunners for Krug

[Henkka]

I thought McIsaac was at least 2 yrs away?

Your point about Cholo being a future Top 4 PMD/PP specialist/trade chip is accurate, however how do you justify all the negatives of signing Krug?
...Bad Defensively, age, small (height & weight & reach) , 5on5, PP specialist, UFA Big $ & Term, Shattenkirk-esque signing, not physical etc.

This screams buyer beware. If he was the final piece on a contender, then maybe yes, but a big no for me (& I like Krug), just not the right fit/time. Need a better 2-way guy.

Where does this "bad defensively" come from?

PP specialist = Best PP QB in the league. I liked those years when we had those guys of players. We did win. Krug is carbon copy of Brian Rafalski.

Great transition player makes us play less in our own and and that also makes us better defensively, when we exhaust our guys less in the own end. Basic things in hockey team building. Krug would make us definitely better, not worse.

Stop being scared about everything and build the team better here and there. One-by-one. In every postition, roles and nice mix of players.

We need better players overall and if some free asset likes to join the team, you sign him. Period. Would be foolish, totally foolish, not to sign him.

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McIsaac is pretty fine for our situation. Nemeth looks good and DeKeyser is fine too. If they lose some games, McIsaac can get some taste in, and be mostly at Griffins. Plays same role in the future as those guys currently. Krug would be the left-side offensive dynamo paired with defensive righty. Nemeth and DeKeyser would need to paired with offensive righties like Hronek and Seider. That mix would start looking pretty good.

 

[waltdetroit]

Detroit Red Wings: Quinn Hughes Was A Better Choice Than Filip Zadina
Interesting.

Funny The author states "The main reason the Zadina pick would be considered as a mistake is the simple fact that the Detroit Red Wings have plenty of forward prospects in the form of Joe Veleno, Evgeny Svechnikov, Taro Hirose, and Ryan Kuffner "
Well, Joe was taken after Z in the draft, and Taro & Ryan signed the following year. The DRW didn't know they would have these players

 

[Henkka]

Funny The author states "The main reason the Zadina pick would be considered as a mistake is the simple fact that the Detroit Red Wings have plenty of forward prospects in the form of Joe Veleno, Evgeny Svechnikov, Taro Hirose, and Ryan Kuffner "
Well, Joe was taken after Z in the draft, and Taro & Ryan signed the following year. The DRW didn't know they would have these players

Just wonder where did that Krug-quote disappered, and it took that Zadina-link.

All that Krug-analyze about his situation was carbon copy from this The Athletic article.

Torey Krug, future Red Wing? Opinions vary on the...

 

[Retire91]

It's very likely that Krug is going to seek top pairing money especially on a team like the Red Wings. And his last long term contract in the NHL. I just feel like its a bad fit for the redwings. I see him as a specialist defenseman with 5v5 limitations. Do we really want to lock up a power play specialist to a number 1 D pay for the next 5,6,7 years? If the wings rebuild goes well and we realistically have a deep playoff team in 5-6 years he is going to be 33 years old making top pairing money. This is a hard nope from me.

I realize the players are dying out there with no puck possession and the fans want to see some excitement but we still gotta be smart with our cap space and who "fits" a new core.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

It's very likely that Krug is going to seek top pairing money especially on a team like the Red Wings. And his last long term contract in the NHL. I just feel like its a bad fit for the redwings. I see him as a specialist defenseman with 5v5 limitations. Do we really want to lock up a power play specialist to a number 1 D pay for the next 5,6,7 years? If the wings rebuild goes well and we realistically have a deep playoff team in 5-6 years he is going to be 33 years old making top pairing money. This is a hard nope from me.

I realize the players are dying out there with no puck possession and the fans want to see some excitement but we still gotta be smart with our cap space and who "fits" a new core.

Krug seems like a "over-the-top signing" if we were a contender not a building block for a rebuild.

 

[deca guard]

to me safest bet on ufa 2020 is lehner who'd be 29 then . a goalie can still have alot of prime seasons left that age . and i want to start being competetive next season , yes we wont get far but making playoffs ( without spending long term cap space beyond young long term players such as mantha n tuzzi ) boost organization morale and starts the upward swing . and lehner as our starter with fellow swede larson as his back up could be a real good set up that we take right into contending 2021/22 if our current prospects pan out + sign a ufa star at some point + draft a star next draft .

 

[Heaton]

Krug seems like a "over-the-top signing" if we were a contender not a building block for a rebuild.

To me, Krug seems like a guy you can really benefit from to help the young offensive players be able to actually use their offensive skills. We don't have anyone in the organization who can effectively QB a PP or show any of the kids what to do with the puck.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Win byfield
Sign hall
Sign krug
Trade AA
Rebuild almost done

 

[vladdy16]

Strongly against the theme here.

Grow from within. Transplants are always overpriced and flawed.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Win byfield
Sign hall
Sign krug
Trade AA
Rebuild almost done

Why would you trade AA when his value is at an all time low?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Why would you trade AA when his value is at an all time low?

I didnt mean trade him today

 

[Go Wings]

Win byfield
Sign hall
Sign krug
Trade AA
Rebuild almost done

Signing one defensmen for the worst defensive team in the league is far from rebuild almost done.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Win byfield
Sign hall
Sign krug
Trade AA
Rebuild almost done

Still need: 2C, 1G, 2RW (RHS), 1D, maybe 2D (Hronek likely fills this role).

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Still need: 2C, 1G, 2RW (RHS), 1D, maybe 2D (Hronek likely fills this role).

Key word is almost...

But krug, hronek, seider, cholo, dekeyser is a solid dcorps moving forward

Larkin, byfield, valeno, ras
Hall, mantha, svech, perlini
Zadina, bert, fabbri, erne
Is a solid forward group moving forward

We would be "almost" ready to start turning things around

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Key word is almost...

But krug, hronek, seider, cholo, dekeyser is a solid dcorps moving forward

Larkin, byfield, valeno, ras
Hall, mantha, svech, perlini
Zadina, bert, fabbri, erne
Is a solid forward group moving forward

We would be "almost" ready to start turning things around

No that's not "almost" ready. And what did you get for AA ,nothing?

 

[Gniwder]

Key word is almost...

But krug, hronek, seider, cholo, dekeyser is a solid dcorps moving forward

Larkin, byfield, valeno, ras
Hall, mantha, svech, perlini
Zadina, bert, fabbri, erne
Is a solid forward group moving forward

We would be "almost" ready to start turning things around

That D looks as soft as warm butter.

 

[saska sault]

Win byfield
Sign hall
Sign krug
Trade AA
Rebuild almost done

Even then.. Don't think we are done. We still miss the playoffs IMO with that team. Who's our #2 center? Cholo, Hronek and Krug.. Not much grit on the back end. Who's stopping the pucks? Plus when our young guys need big pay days and you got 18-20 million invested in free agents.. You gotta let your home grown talent go?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

No that's not "almost" ready. And what did you get for AA ,nothing?

You really dont think adding byfield, hall and krug makes Detroit substantially better?

Fair enough but if so, are you expecting it to be 5 more years till we're better?

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

That D looks as soft as warm butter.

That's the Parkay Defense...Because "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter"

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

That's the Parkay Defense...Because "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter"

Okay

That's pretty funny

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

You really dont think adding byfield, hall and krug makes Detroit substantially better?

Fair enough but if so, are you expecting it to be 5 more years till we're better?

I asked you what we got for AA?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I asked you what we got for AA?

My bad

I didn't realize thats ALL you said

Let's look again shall we?

As for AA I have no clue but I do believe if we landed byfield in the draft and hall in free agency AA would not be here forever..

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

It's very likely that Krug is going to seek top pairing money especially on a team like the Red Wings. And his last long term contract in the NHL. I just feel like its a bad fit for the redwings. I see him as a specialist defenseman with 5v5 limitations. Do we really want to lock up a power play specialist to a number 1 D pay for the next 5,6,7 years? If the wings rebuild goes well and we realistically have a deep playoff team in 5-6 years he is going to be 33 years old making top pairing money. This is a hard nope from me.

I realize the players are dying out there with no puck possession and the fans want to see some excitement but we still gotta be smart with our cap space and who "fits" a new core.

Krug plays a very cerebral game, I think this would be a lot more like when we stole Rafalski. Is he a PP specialist sure, but he is actually the driver of the number #1 PP in Boston. He is the guy that makes that thing really hum, it is impressive. He plays a game that should age pretty well, we shall see. But he would help this group.

Still without a little lottery luck it might be too soon in the process. Yzerman has to balance that decision while he evaluates the team he wants to build. He will have a feeling we should also see decent indicators in his handling of Mantha, Bert and AA. But Krug on the Trouba deal is an impact player for us, assuming he starts appropriating the money correctly as it comes off the cap is what you're concerned with. But we would enter the UFA process with a known draft slot, do you feel better about the Wings build with Lafrainiere or Byfield, even Raymond is pretty special though I want one of the big two for sure this year. Just stinks the way the lottery is setup when you're this bad, you might not even get the rewards you should. Is what it is, just stinks when you're going through it.

 

[RedHawkDown]

I think we should only be signing UFAs if we win one of Laf or Byfield. Anything else and we're just treading water. One of those two + some big-time UFAs, and suddenly we're talking.

Hall-Byfield-Zadina
Bert-Larkin-Mantha
Svech-Ras-Fabbri

hell of a top 9. Of course this assumes Z becomes at least a serviceable top 6'er and Svech/Ras become good 3rd line options but I don't think those things are too much to ask. If not, one of Mastro/Berggren/Veleno probably turns into a top 9 player at least.

Krug-Hronek and Cholo-Seider would be a fine top 4 in 2 years. That team is definitely at least making the playoffs, if not contending. But it hinges on getting that top 2-3 pick elite game-changing talent.

 

[Winger98]

I think we should only be signing UFAs if we win one of Laf or Byfield. Anything else and we're just treading water. One of those two + some big-time UFAs, and suddenly we're talking.

Hall-Byfield-Zadina
Bert-Larkin-Mantha
Svech-Ras-Fabbri

hell of a top 9. Of course this assumes Z becomes at least a serviceable top 6'er and Svech/Ras become good 3rd line options but I don't think those things are too much to ask. If not, one of Mastro/Berggren/Veleno probably turns into a top 9 player at least.

Krug-Hronek and Cholo-Seider would be a fine top 9 in 2 years. That team is definitely at least making the playoffs, if not contending. But it hinges on getting that top 2-3 pick elite game-changing talent.

Yeah, it gets harder justifying trying to add that big name UFA if we aren't bringing home one of the top picks. At the same time, the Wings might never get the top pick and at some point they are going to have to decide if they've reached the point where they need to start supplementing the talent they have with some outside help. The decision would be easier if Larsson starts putting up some better numbers in GR and we know we might have that goalie spot locked down a bit.