AAA 2013 Line-up Assassination Thread

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  1. VanIslander

    VanIslander Don't waste my time

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    Post your complete line-up here for comments by others.

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    Include one captain ("one "C") and two alternate captains (two "A"s) for standardization purposes.​
     
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  2. DaveG

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    Coach: Sid Abel

    Carl Liscombe - Dutch Reibel - Jeff O'Neill
    Geoff Sanderson - Andrew Cassels (A) - Erik Cole
    Mark Osborne - Christian Ruuttu - Blair MacDonald
    Marco Sturm - Curtis Brown (A) - Mike Grier

    Garry Galley (C) - Arnie Brown
    Al MacNeal - Sean Hill
    Kyle McLaren - Marek Zidlicky

    Dwayne Roloson
    Richard Brodeur

    extras:
    LW/C Sibby Nichol
    D Zarley Zalapski
    RW Bill Hicke
    F Randy Wood

    PP1:
    Carl Liscombe - Dutch Reibel - Jeff O'Neill
    Garry Galley - Marek Zidlicky

    PP2:
    Geoff Sanderson - Andrew Cassels - Erik Cole
    Arnie Brown - Sean Hill

    PK1:
    Curtis Brown - Christian Ruuttu
    Kyle McLaren - Arnie Brown

    PK2:
    Mike Grier - Andrew Cassels
    Al MacNeil - Sean Hill
     
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    ResilientBeast ATD Draft Czar

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    Head Coach: Ivan Hlinka

    Neal - Nylander(A) - Routh
    Sheppard - J.Carson - Carter(A)
    Arvedson- Migay - Goldsworthy
    Irvine -Findlay - Mallen

    Samsonov-Semonov-Beaudro


    Fogolin Sr (C)- D.Mironov
    Malakhov - B.Mironov
    Snepsts - Subban
    Staios

    Quick
    Simmons


    PP:
    1 Neal - Nylander - Routh
    Subban - B.Mironov

    2 Sheppard - Carson - Carter
    D.Mironov-Malakov

    PK:
    1 Migay-Goldsworthy
    Fogolin-D.Mironov

    2 Findlay-Arvedson
    Snepsts-B.Mironov
     
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    BOSTON CUBS

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    Head Coach: Vladimir Yurzinov
    Asst Coach: Terry O'Reilly

    Evgeny Mishakov - (A) George Gee - Bill Flett
    Kristian Huselius - Vyacheslav Anisin - Donald Audette
    Johan Franzen - (A) Jussi Jokinen - Scott Walker
    Vic Lynn - Skinner Poulin
    - Jimmy Herberts

    Pekka Marjamaki - Joe Cooper
    Al Dewsbury - Igor Romishevsky
    (C) Don Sweeney - Bill Juzda

    Eddie Johnston
    Roman Turek

    [spares]
    Dave Creighton (ctr)
    Hannu Virta (def)
    Mathieu Dandenault (def/rw)


    - PP1 -
    Franzen - Gee - Audette
    Marjamaki - Walker


    - PP2 -
    Huselius - Anisin - Flett / Herberts
    Dewsbury / Sweeney - Romishevsky


    - spot duty PP forwards -
    Jokinen - Poulin - Mishakov

    - PK1 -
    Mishakov - Walker
    Dewsbury - Juzda / Cooper


    - PK2 -
    Lynn - Jokinen
    Sweeney - Romishevsky / Cooper


    - spot duty PK forwards -
    Gee - Flett - Poulin


    - Multi-positional players -
    - Skinner Poulin F (mainly ctr) / D / ROVER
    - Vic Lynn LW / D
    - Kristian Huselius LW / some RW (listed as F on Elite Prospects)
    - Scott Walker RW / D (holds Owen Sound Jrs team record - most pts /season for defenseman)
    - Jimmy Herberts C / RW
    - Jussi Jokinen C / W (listed as F on Elite Prospects)
    - Don Sweeney D / LW (played wing in high school and first yr at Harvard)
    - Mathieu Dandenault D / RW​


     
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  5. tony d

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    George Richardson-Alexei Zhamnov-Rick Kehoe(A)
    Alexander Bodunov-Tim Young-Brian Gionta(A)
    Bob Kelly-Peter Zezel-Martin Lapointe
    Don Grosso-Stephane Yelle- John Anderson

    Extras: Petr Klima, Paul Stastny

    Sergei Starikov(C)-Robert Picard
    Bret Hedican-Janne Ninimaa
    Bob Plager-Tom Kurvers

    Extras: Richard Matvichuk, Kevin Mccarthy

    Felix Potvin
    Hal Winkler

    Coach: Bob Hartley

    PP1: George Richardson, Alexei Zhamnov, Rick Kehoe, Robert Picard, Janne Ninimaa
    PP 2: Alexander Bodunov, Tim Young, Brian Gionta, Sergei Starikov, Tom Kurvers
    PK 1: Peter Zezel, Martin Lapointe, Sergei Starikov, Bret Hedican
    PK 2: Don Grosso, Stephane Yelle, Robert Picard, Bob Plager

    1916 or earlier- George Richardson, Hal Winkler
    1917-1942 - Don Grosso
    1943-1965 - Bob Plager
    1966-1979 - Rick Kehoe, Sergei Starikov, Robert Picard, Tim Young, Alexander Bodunov, Bob Kelly, John Anderson, Kevin Mccarthy
    1980-1994 - Alexei Zhamnov, Bret Hedican, Felix Potvin, Martin Lapointe, Tom Kurvers, Stephane Yelle, Petr Klima, Richard Matvichuk
    1995-2004 - Janne Ninimaa
    in 2013 - Brian Gionta, Paul Stastny
     
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    Andrew Brunette (A)- Vladimir Zabrodsky -Russ Courtnall
    Mike Krushelnyski - Mike Walton -Charlie Tobin
    Bep Guidolin -Paul Gardner - Paul Holmgren
    Doug Smail - Alexei Guryshev - Doug Brown
    Harry Meeking - Joe Benoit


    Bob Murray (C) -Sean O'Donnell (A)
    Sheldon Souray - Jay Wells
    Craig Muni - Igor Kravchuk
    Paul Popiel


    Carey Price
    Jon Casey

    PP#1
    Andrew Brunette- Paul Gardner - Russ Courtnall
    Sheldon Souray - Bob Murray

    PP#2
    Alexei Guryshev - Mike Walton - Charlie Tobin
    Igor Kravchuk - Jay Wells

    PK#1
    Doug Smail - Russ Courtnall
    Sean O'Donnell - Craig Muni

    PK#2
    Doug Brown - Charlie Tobin
    Bob Murray - Jay Wells ​
     
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    Head Coach: Claude Ruel


    Sergei Mozyakin - Vladimir Ruzicka - Mark Napier
    Matt Moulson - Josef Malecek - Lowell MacDonald
    Martin Gelinas "A" - Matt Cullen - Eric Dazé
    Pekka Arbelius - Lars Molin - Andreas Ambuhl
    Rob Scuderi - Stephane Robidas "C"
    Hugh Bolton - Dennis Kearns
    Bryce Salvador "A"- Bobby Connors
    Gilles Gilbert
    Ron Tugnutt

    PP1:
    Matt Moulson - Vladimir Ruzicka - Mark Napier
    Josef Malecek - Stephane Robidas

    PP2:
    Sergey Mozyakin - Matt Cullen - Eric Dazé
    Dennis Kearns - Bobby Connors

    PK1:
    Matt Moulson - Lars Molin
    Rob Scuderi - Stephane Robidas

    PK2:
    Matt Cullen - Andreas Ambuhl
    Bryce Salvador - Dennis Kearns

    Scratches:
    Peter Skudra, G
    Corby Adams, C
    Andre Roy, LW


    1916 or earlier : Horace Gaul
    1917-1942 : Josef Malecek, Bobby Connors
    1943-1965 : Corby Adams, Hugh Bolton
    1966-1979 : Mark Napier, Dennis Kearns, Gilles Gilbert, Lars Molin
    1980-1994 : Pekka Arbelius, Ron Tugnutt, Martin Gelinas, Vladimir Ruzicka,
    1995-2004 : Eric Dazé, Peter Skudra, Andreas Ambuhl,
    Current : Matt Cullen, Sergei Mozyakin, Rob Scuderi, Matt Moulson, Stephane Robidas, Bryce Salvador

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    My first attempt at an ATD team, forgive me for how it pales in comparison to all the other rosters! Still a fun time, thanks to VanIslander and co. for a fun time! Definitely interested in co-GMing for the 2014 ATD
     
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  8. Rob Scuderi

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    Pittsburgh Yellow Jackets

    Coach: Terry Crisp
    Assistant Coach: Mike Buckna

    Alex Kaleta - Jozef Stumpel - Glen Murray
    Morris Lukowich - Guy Chouinard - Ran McDonald
    Jochen Hecht - Ron Schock (C) - Lucien DeBlois
    Dan Maloney - Travis Zajac - Ryan Callahan (A)
    Jim Conacher, Ric Seiling

    Stew Evans (A) - Gord Murphy
    Eric Brewer - Tom Bladon
    Bob Trapp - Randy Manery
    Bryan Watson

    Gerry McNeil
    Cesare Maniago

    PP1
    Kaleta-Stumpel-Murray
    Chouinard-Bladon

    PP2
    Lukowich-Schock-McDonald
    Murphy-Manery

    PK1
    Schock-Hecht
    Evans-Brewer

    PK2
    Zajac-Callahan
    Trapp-Murphy
     
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  9. Hedberg

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    PP1: Juneau - Campbell - Carter - A. Smith - Gut
    PP2: Grant - Milks - Nilsson - Poile - Paladiev
    PK1: Malhotra - Axelsson - Bowman - Ragnarsson
    PK2: Juneau - Patterson - A. Smith - R. Smith


    1916 or earlier - Lorne Campbell
    1917-1942 - Hib Milks
    1943-1965 - Nils Nilsson
    1966-1979 - Jim Dorey
    1980-1994 - Colin Patterson
    1995-2004 - Manny Malhotra
    in 2013 - Jeff Carter
     
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    Coach - Jacques Martin

    Greg Adams - John Cullen - Phil Kessel
    Justin Williams - Dan Quinn - Wayne Connelly
    Randy Burridge - Thomas Plekanec - Pat Boutette
    Rick Dudley(C) - Radek Bonk - Matt Cooke

    Mark Hardy - Paul Martin (A)
    Barret Jackman (A) - Brad Stuart
    Lyle Odelien - Jaro Spacek

    Goaltenders
    Jose Theodore (1)
    Viktor Zinger (2)

    Spares
    Frank Rankin (Rover)C/D
    Mark Hunter RW
    Lou Lameroux D
    Joffery Lupul LW

    PP1
    Adams - Quinn - Kessel
    Spacek - Hardy

    PP2
    Williams - Cullen - Connelly
    Stuart - Martin

    PK1
    Plekanec - Cooke
    Jackman - Martin

    PK2
    Bonk - Boutette
    Stuart - Odelien
     
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  11. Hobnobs

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    Bryan Murray

    Captain: Dale McCourt
    Assistants: Murray Henderson and David Legwand

    Ivan Boldirev - Robert Lang - Ray Sheppard
    Paul Ysebaert - Dale McCourt - Joe Murphy
    Pelle Eklund - David Legwand - Eddie Kullman
    Brad May - Chris Gratton - Ronnie Stern
    Viktor Kozlov - Radek Dvorak

    Murray Henderson - Tom Poti
    Dana Murzyn - Philippe Boucher
    Colin White - Jason Woolley
    Dick Tärnström - Alex Motter

    Mike Palmateer
    Darren Puppa

    PP1
    Ivan Boldirev - Robert Lang - Ray Sheppard
    Phillipe Boucher - Tom Poti

    PP2
    Chris Gratton - Dale McCourt - Joe Murphy
    Paul Ysebaert - Jason Woolley

    PK1
    David Legwand - Pelle Eklund
    Murray Henderson - Dana Murzyn

    PK2
    Chris Gratton - Eddie Kullman
    Colin White - Phillipe Boucher
     
  12. TheDevilMadeMe

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    Malhotra, Patterson, Axelsson? What a dominant PK trio for this level.
     
  13. seventieslord

    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    just got through a really tough month at work. Evaluations are finally done. I can pretty much waste my day doing lineup assassinations.
     
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    Coach: Brian Sutter
    Assistant Coach: Jacques Laperriere

    John Sorrell - Petr Nedved - Mike Murphy (C)
    Tony Granato - Art Jackson - Alexander Golikov
    Buzz Boll - Cully Dahlstrom - Billy Harris
    Jack McDonald - Lorne Henning - Willi Plett
    Martin Havlat (LW/RW), Ron Murphy (LW/RW)

    Ivan Tregubov - Brad Marsh (A)
    Reg Hamilton - Al Hamilton (A)
    Art Moore - Patrice Brisebois
    Bob Turner (D/W)

    Kelly Hrudey
    Earl Robertson

    PP1: Sorrell - Jackson - Harris - Nedved - Tregubov
    PP2: McDonald - Boll - Golikov - A.Hamilton - Brisebois
    PK1: Henning - Murphy - Marsh - R.Hamilton
    PK2: Dahlstrom - Granato - Tregubov - Moore

    1916 or earlier - McDonald, Moore
    1917-1942 - Sorrell, Jackson, Dahlstrom, Boll, R.Hamilton, Robertson
    1943-1965 - Tregubov, Turner, Murphy
    1966-1979 - Murphy, Harris, Marsh, A.Hamilton, Henning, Plett, Golikov, Laperriere
    1980-1994 - Nedved, Granato, Hrudey, Brisebois, Sutter
    1995-2004 - Havlat
    in 2013 - Havlat
     
  15. seventieslord

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    Billy and Willi, two Murphys, two Arts and two Hamiltons.

    I've done something with my lineup this draft that I don't think I've ever seen: I have 17 players on my 18 special teams spots. You need to have a forward who can play the point on the PP to really make it happen. (Rob Scuderi, who has Chouinard, managed 16!)

    Only Plett, the designated goon, is not on a special team, and only Tregubov, my #1 defenseman, is on two. I was fortunate to get a number of forwards capable of both roles so that I could slot them all in, and not fatigue anyone too much.

    I was really lucky with this draft, it seemed a lot of guys fell into my lap, and just about everyone I planned and strategized to get, I did. And not that I went looking for leaders deliberately, but sure found a few. I have an ex-Silver Seven captain not wearing a letter! Bet we haven't seen that in the AAA before. Murphy was a 6-year captain, Hamilton 4 years, and Marsh for 2 NHL teams.
     
  16. BubbaBoot

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    Quite possibly my favorite non-Boston Cubs team, (with the exception of Brisebois, who really won't hurt if he plays only 3rd paring / PP mins).

    Nice job
     
  17. seventieslord

    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    Thanks for the compliment.

    Hey, if you don't like Brisebois, you must hate wooley, Boucher, spacek, kravchuk, zidlicky, and kurvers, because he is a better all around player than them.

    I dread the selection of offensive specialist defensemen, I really do. You have to pick based primarily on "hockey card stats" which is rarely a good idea. And the guy you take is not as good overall as the guys you pass on. But if you don't, your PP suffers.

    I'm trying not to begrudge the offensive specialists lately... they've been selected in approximately the best order so far. When I take one though, I will always do my best to make sure it's someone who proved they could play heavier minutes, many situations, hopefully contributed to good teams, or a combination of the above.

    Actually, as a rule, I'm rarely a fan of taking someone solely because they are the best available at one specialized skill (pk, PP, fighting, goal scoring, hitting), I'd rather get a guy who is "one of the best" available and better than others at other things. Hence, Brisebois as a PP specialist, Plett as a goon, etc.

    Tom Poti is a perfect example. Last AAA dreakmur and I got him as a 3rd pairing guy, selecting him over a number of one-way guys. But he's way overqualified for that, and is now on a first pairing. I'd call Brisebois a poor man's Poti.

    I know, I'm rambling now...
     
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    VanIslander Don't waste my time

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    If nobody is interested in reviewing other teams we could skip this....
     
  19. seventieslord

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    I'm doing a few today, be patient.
     
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    I'm actually just doing a ranking of teams in a number of positional areas just to be sure I have a good handle on where everyone ranks, so I can more confidently say that a team is particularly strong or weak in an area when reviewing.
     
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    He's not a better all-around player than Boucher... The rest I agree with.
     
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    He's fine but not at 1st pairing mins, which I saw when he was with Montreal. He's good where he is, it'll minimize his eventual gaffe(s).

    BTW, I like Wooley.
     
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    Wooley is like the only defenseman to play anything close to his number of games to basically never kill penalties.

    Even Housley occasionally killed penalties by accident (though far less often than just about anyone else... but Wooley!)
     
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    As you said, its hard to pick those offensive PMDs, stats only go so far.....

    Here's my take. Woolley was a 2nd pairing guy with Buffalo at his peak. At that time they and the Bruins had some wars. His best offensive numbers, as well as his PIMs, (he was no shrinking violet), were at a max.

    Brisebois by comparison, had a tendency to be both very good and very bad against the Bruins, and for his career his TOI was the lowest among his divisional rivals. He was the defacto #1 for the Canadiens, thusly that meant he had a bullseye on the CH of his uniform, and he was erratic in handling it....sometimes great, sometimes not....and when he wasn't it surely seemed to be at the most inopportune times.

    Scientific it ain't, but these factors stuck in my head.
     
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    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    Are you sure you're not looking at shots on goal? Woolley's PIMs were not in any way high.
    And if you look at his ES ice time, he was definitely third pairing, always. This is a guy who played 17.5 minutes in total, which is extremely low when you consider he was playing 5 of them on the PP.
     

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