Post-Game Talk: #69: Senators 2 at FLYERS 3, Monday, Mar. 11, 2019, 7:00 p.m. ET

[Beef Invictus]

Hakstol:
5x5: CF 51.25, GF/GA 2.66/2.78, SCF/CA 25.0/23.9, Sv% 83.94%, HDCF/CA 11.2/9.8, Sv% 81.72
PP: CF 86.54, GF/GA 4.22/2.11, SCF/CA 48.6/8.5, Sh% 10.11%, HDCF/CA 25.4/4.9, Sh% 14.81
PK: CF 17.48, GF/GA 1.06/9.57, SCF/CA 7.4/45.4, Sv% 75.78%, HDCF/CA 3.9/20.9, Sv% 70.00

Gordon's hot streak (26 games since 1/10/19):
5x5: CF 45.53, GF/GA 2.95/2.61, SCF/CA 24.3/28.8, Sv% 87.33%, HDCF/CA 10.1/11.3, Sv% 85.79
PP: CF 84.05, GF/GA 7.94/0.93, SCF/CA 46.7/6.5, Sh% 13.33%, HDCF/CA 22.9/1.9, Sh% 20.51
PK: CF 11.90, GF/GA 0.54/5.37, SCF/CA 7.0/48.9, Sv% 86.00%, HDCF/CA 2.7/20.4, Sv% 92.31

These numbers are almost unbelievable.

Outside the goalies, and a much improved shooting percentage, the team is playing WORSE under Gordon.
Corsi is worse in every situation. At 5x5 it's dramatically worse.
They allow far more scoring chances, and high danger chances, at 5x5.
On the PP, they're generating fewer scoring and high danger chances, but they're scoring at a much higher rate.
On the PK, they're allowing more scoring chances, and only slightly fewer high danger chances, but the goalies are playing out of their gourds.

The one substantial improvement is they're allowing fewer breakaways and high danger scoring chances against them on the PP.

I wonder why you've begun ignoring raw goal production?

Your stats are failing to take into account that Hakstol lived on the perimeter in the offensive zone while Gordon has them attacking high scoring areas and brings more pressure. Context is important, but you've never cared about it because you're not seeking the truth but rather to support your fake narratives.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Lehtera is being scratched for most of the Phantoms games while Byron Froese plays as a veteran center ahead of him, which just shows how badly Hak overplayed him for 1.5 seasons.

Anyone could see that Lehtera was a guy who should be suiting up only in emergency circumstances. The fact he was used a regular 4th liner who got PP and PK time was absurd.

Yeah but look at Corsi without any context!

 

[Curufinwe]

Lehtera's Corsi Rel (-2%) wasn't even good, and his 5on5 P/60 (0.71) was pathetic.

 

[deadhead]

It's not like Lehtera was playing over anyone good.
2017-18: 9:12 at ES, played more than Leier or Goul. Played less than Weal, Weise, Laughton or Read
2018-19: 7:31 at ES, that's less than Varone, Vorobyev, Knight or Weise.

 

[Flyrs21]

TK minutes per game:
Jan: 15:25
Feb: 17:54
March: 16:08
April: 15:33
Oct: 14:46
Nov: 16:44
Jan: 15:00
Feb: 14:34
Mar: 14:24

So he's playing less under Gordon than Hakstol. Hmm.
TK is a talented scorer who might be, along with JVR, our worst defensive forward.

Holy Mackerel..... he was taken off the top line from the islanders game in April and the playoffs for Raffl, hence me saying getting them into the playoffs along with Giroux. You can play 15 minutes a night but top line minutes are different than 3rd line minutes.

 

[General Joseph]

I wonder why you've begun ignoring raw goal production?

Your stats are failing to take into account that Hakstol lived on the perimeter in the offensive zone while Gordon has them attacking high scoring areas and brings more pressure. Context is important, but you've never cared about it because you're not seeking the truth but rather to support your fake narratives.

Your point is well taken , but i think with the bad goal tending and serious Defensive woes , Hak figured he had to keep folks up top more to get back on D . Having said that i am glad our D and goal tending seems to be getting with the program .

 

[BritainStix]

Has deadhead still not figured out that our goaltenders performances have increased drastically because

A) we arent putting our worst players on the ice constantly
B) we arent giving up breakaway after breakaway
C) Manning is no longer anywhere near this team.

Its almost like Hakstol is the reason for the three above items...

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Has deadhead still not figured out that our goaltenders performances have increased drastically because

A) we arent putting our worst players on the ice constantly
B) we arent giving up breakaway after breakaway
C) Manning is no longer anywhere near this team.

Its almost like Hakstol is the reason for the three above items...

They had no choice man

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I wonder why you've begun ignoring raw goal production?

Your stats are failing to take into account that Hakstol lived on the perimeter in the offensive zone while Gordon has them attacking high scoring areas and brings more pressure. Context is important, but you've never cared about it because you're not seeking the truth but rather to support your fake narratives.

"sit down... your fake news"...

 

[Starat327]

Your point is well taken , but i think with the bad goal tending and serious Defensive woes , Hak figured he had to keep folks up top more to get back on D . Having said that i am glad our D and goal tending seems to be getting with the program .

Hawks goaltending woes were his own doing. Elliott had great 5v5 numbers before he got hurt, similar to what he has now.

The difference is Hak had the team playing such poor defence with poor players on the ice, that it didnt matter.

 

[DancingPanther]

Dude, c'mon. Really? This is you, being serious, for real now? What side of the bed did you get out of? Do you even sleep in a bed? Such a tired, tired response.

Patrick has no beard. Beard = facial hair. Voracek > Patrick. Nuff said!

All that other stuff, I don't disagree with it, but am unwilling to say you are correct. Neither confirm, nor deny.

Listen here bub.

Facial hair =/= the colloquial "hair" which implies the hair on the head

Hair: NP > Jake
Facial hair: Jake > NP

These are the facts of the case and they cannot be disputed.

 

[dingbathero]

You do realize that once Hakstol was fired it's improve or you could be next out the door...

Yes. Of course it would have been that....

But that doesn't answer my inquiry.... right?

 

[deadhead]

Has deadhead still not figured out that our goaltenders performances have increased drastically because

A) we arent putting our worst players on the ice constantly
B) we arent giving up breakaway after breakaway
C) Manning is no longer anywhere near this team.

Its almost like Hakstol is the reason for the three above items...

If that was true, it would be reflected in a lower rate of scoring chances and high danger scoring chances against.
The numbers don't show that.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Your point is well taken , but i think with the bad goal tending and serious Defensive woes , Hak figured he had to keep folks up top more to get back on D . Having said that i am glad our D and goal tending seems to be getting with the program .

Hak had them playing like that even when the goalies were giving him good performances.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Do people honestly believe the reason Cal Pickard, Petr Mrazek, Michal Neuvirth, & Alex Lyon couldn’t stop beach balls the last two seasons was because of Hakstol’s system?

Come on. Not only is that ludicrous from a simple eye test, it implies that Hakstol significantly changed his system for the worse after his first season, when Mason & Neuvirth were healthy and sharp & the team got excellent goaltending.