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Here's a re-post of my initial post (from eight years ago), since it didn't survive the data migration:

PLAYERCATEGORYRANKYEAR
AL ARBOURBest defensive defensemenT-1st1971
BARCLAY PLAGERBest bodycheckerT-1st1971
BARCLAY PLAGERBest bodychecker1st1974
BARRY BECKHardest shot4th1979
BARRY BECKToughest player3rd1979
BARRY PEDERSONBest on faceoffs3rd1984
BARRY PEDERSONBest passer2nd1984
BILL WHITEBest defensive defenseman1st1974
BILL WHITEBest defensive defenseman2nd1976
BOB BAUNBest bodycheckerT-1st1971
BOB GAINEYBest bodychecker3rd1979
BOB GAINEYBest checker3rd1976
BOB GAINEYBest defensive forward1st1979
BOB GAINEYBest defensive forward3rd1984
BOB GAINEYBest penalty killer1st1979
BOB GAINEYBest skater3rd1979
BOB NYSTROMBest bodychecker4th1984
BOB PLAGERBest bodychecker2nd1974
BOBBY CLARKEBest checker1st1974
BOBBY CLARKEBest checker1st1976
BOBBY CLARKEBest on faceoffs2nd1974
BOBBY CLARKEBest on faceoffs1st1976
BOBBY CLARKEBest on faceoffs1st1979
BOBBY CLARKEBest on faceoffs4th1984
BOBBY CLARKEBest penalty killerT-1st1974
BOBBY CLARKEBest penalty killer1st1976
BOBBY CLARKEBest playmaker3rd1974
BOBBY CLARKEBest playmaker1st1976
BOBBY CLARKEFirst player to build team around1st1976
BOBBY CLARKEHardest worker1st1971
BOBBY CLARKEHardest worker1st1974
BOBBY CLARKEHardest worker1st1976
BOBBY CLARKEHardest worker1st1979
BOBBY CLARKEHardest worker2nd1984
BOBBY CLARKESmartest player3rd1974
BOBBY CLARKESmartest player2nd1976
BOBBY CLARKESmartest player4th1979
BOBBY HULLBest shot1st1971
BOBBY HULLHardest shot1st1971
BOBBY ORRBest defensive defensemenT-1st1971
BOBBY ORRBest playmaker4th1974
BOBBY ORRBest playmaker4th1976
BOBBY ORRBest shot2nd1971
BOBBY ORRBest shot3rd1974
BOBBY ORRBest skater1st1971
BOBBY ORRBest skater1st1974
BOBBY ORRBest skater1st1976
BOBBY ORRBest stickhandler2nd1971
BOBBY ORRFastest skater3rd1976
BOBBY ORRFirst player to build team around3rd1976
BOBBY ORRHardest shot2nd1971
BOBBY ORRHardest shot3rd1974
BOBBY ORRSmartest player1st1971
BOBBY ORRSmartest player2nd1974
BOBBY ORRSmartest player3rd1976
BOBBY SCHMAUTZMost dangerous near goal4th1974
BORJE SALMINGBest defensive defenseman2nd1974
BORJE SALMINGBest defensive defenseman3rd1979
BORJE SALMINGBest passer4th1979
BORJE SALMINGBest playmaker4th1979
BORJE SALMINGBest skater2nd1979
BORJE SALMINGMost natural ability4th1979
BRIAN GLENNIEBest bodychecker3rd1974
BRIAN SUTTERHardest worker6th1984
BRIAN SUTTERToughest player1st1984
BRYAN TROTTIERBest defensive forward5th1984
BRYAN TROTTIERBest on faceoffs1st1984
BRYAN TROTTIERBest passer1st1979
BRYAN TROTTIERBest playmaker1st1979
BRYAN TROTTIERBest stickhandler2nd1979
BRYAN TROTTIERFirst player to build team around2nd1979
BRYAN TROTTIERHardest worker5th1984
BRYAN TROTTIERSmartest player2nd1979
BRYAN TROTTIERSmartest player4th1984
CHICO MAKIHardest worker3rd1974
CLARK GILLIESFirst player to build team around4th1979
CRAIG RAMSAYBest checker4th1976
CRAIG RAMSAYBest defensive forward3rd1979
CRAIG RAMSAYBest defensive forward2nd1984
CRAIG RAMSAYBest penalty killerT-1st1974
CRAIG RAMSAYBest penalty killer3rd1976
CRAIG RAMSAYBest penalty killer2nd1979
DAN LABRAATENFastest skater2nd1979
DAN MALONEYBest bodychecker2nd1979
DARRYL SITTLERHardest worker4th1976
DAVE BURROWSBest defensive defenseman5th1974
DAVE BURROWSBest defensive defenseman4th1976
DAVE KEONBest checkerT-1st1971
DAVE KEONBest penalty killer2nd1971
DAVE KEONBest skater2nd1971
DAVE LANGEVINBest bodychecker3rd1984
DAVE WILLIAMSToughest player2nd1979
DAVE WILLIAMSToughest player3rd1984
DENIS POTVINBest bodychecker3rd1976
DENIS POTVINBest bodychecker1st1979
DENIS POTVINBest bodychecker2nd1984
DENIS POTVINBest defensive defenseman3rd1976
DENIS POTVINFirst player to build team around2nd1976
DENIS POTVINFirst player to build team around3rd1979
DENIS POTVINHardest shot5th1979
DENIS POTVINMost natural ability3rd1979
DENIS SAVARDBest skater2nd1984
DENIS SAVARDBest stickhandler3rd1984
DENIS SAVARDFastest skater3rd1984
DENIS SAVARDMost natural ability3rd1984
DENNIS HULLHardest shot1st1974
DENNIS HULLHardest shot1st1976
DEREK SANDERSONBest on faceoffs1st1971
DEREK SANDERSONBest penalty killer1st1971
DON LUCEBest checker5th1976
DON LUCEBest penalty killer2nd1976
DON MARCOTTEBest defensive forward2nd1979
DON MARCOTTEBest penalty killer3rd1979
DOUG JARRETTBest bodychecker4th1974
DOUG JARVISBest defensive forward1st1984
DOUG JARVISBest on faceoffs3rd1976
DOUG JARVISBest on faceoffs2nd1979
DOUG JARVISBest on faceoffs2nd1984
DOUG JARVISBest penalty killer4th1979
DOUG JARVISBest penalty killer1st1984
DOUG WILSONHardest shot2nd1984
ED WESTFALLBest checker3rd1974
ED WESTFALLBest penalty killer4th1976
ERROL THOMPSONBest skater4th1976
GILBERT PERREAULTBest skater2nd1976
GILBERT PERREAULTBest skater5th1984
GILBERT PERREAULTBest stickhandler2nd1976
GILBERT PERREAULTBest stickhandler3rd1979
GILBERT PERREAULTFastest skater4th1976
GILBERT PERREAULTMost natural ability2nd1979
GLENN ANDERSONFastest skater1st1984
GORDIE HOWESmartest player3rd1971
GUY LAFLEURBest passer2nd1979
GUY LAFLEURBest playmaker2nd1979
GUY LAFLEURBest shot3rd1976
GUY LAFLEURBest shot1st1979
GUY LAFLEURBest skater1st1979
GUY LAFLEURBest stickhandler4th1976
GUY LAFLEURBest stickhandler1st1979
GUY LAFLEURFastest skater1st1979
GUY LAFLEURFirst player to build team around1st1979
GUY LAFLEURMost dangerous near goal3rd1976
GUY LAFLEURMost dangerous near goal3rd1979
GUY LAFLEURMost natural ability1st1979
GUY LAFLEURSmartest player4th1976
GUY LAFLEURSmartest player1st1979
HILLARD GRAVESBest bodychecker1st1976
IAN TURNBULLHardest shot2nd1979
INGE HAMMARSTROMFastest skater5th1976
JACQUES LAPERRIEREBest defensive defenseman3rd1974
JARI KURRIBest defensive forward6th1984
JARI KURRIBest shot3rd1984
JARI KURRISmartest player6th1984
JEAN BELIVEAUSmartest player4th1971
JEAN RATELLEBest playmaker5th1974
JEAN RATELLESmartest player3rd1979
JIM PAPPINMost dangerous near goal5th1974
JIM ROBERTSBest checker2nd1974
JIM ROBERTSHardest worker2nd1971
JIM ROBERTSHardest worker3rd1976
JOHN TONELLIHardest worker1st1984
JOHNNY BUCYKMost dangerous near goal3rd1974
KEN DRYDENFirst player to build team around4th1976
KEN MORROWBest defensive defenseman3rd1984
KENT NILSSONMost natural ability2nd1984
LANNY MACDONALDBest shot3rd1979
LANNY MACDONALDHardest shot1st1979
LARRY ROBINSONBest bodychecker2nd1976
LARRY ROBINSONBest defensive defenseman1st1976
LARRY ROBINSONBest defensive defenseman1st1979
MARCEL DIONNEBest passer3rd1979
MARCEL DIONNEBest playmaker2nd1976
MARCEL DIONNEBest playmaker3rd1979
MARCEL DIONNEBest stickhandler6th1976
MARCEL DIONNEFastest skater2nd1976
MARCEL DIONNEMost dangerous near goal4th1976
MARCEL DIONNEMost dangerous near goal2nd1979
MARCEL DIONNESmartest player5th1979
MICHEL GOULETBest shot4th1984
MICKEY REDMONDBest shot4th1974
MICKEY REDMONDBest shot4th1976
MICKEY REDMONDHardest shot2nd1974
MIKE BOSSYBest shot2nd1979
MIKE BOSSYBest shot1st1984
MIKE BOSSYMost dangerous near goal1st1979
MIKE BOSSYMost dangerous near goal2nd1984
MIKE BOSSYSmartest player3rd1984
MIKE GARTNERBest skater4th1984
MIKE GARTNERFastest skater2nd1984
MIKE RAMSAYBest defensive defenseman2nd1984
NORM ULLMANBest checkerT-1st1971
PAUL COFFEYBest skater1st1984
PAUL COFFEYMost natural ability5th1984
PETE MAHOVLICHBest penalty killerT-1st1974
PETE MAHOVLICHBest stickhandler5th1976
PETER STASTNYBest passer3rd1984
PETER STASTNYSmartest player2nd1984
PHIL ESPOSITOBest on faceoffs3rd1974
PHIL ESPOSITOBest shot3rd1971
PHIL ESPOSITOBest shotT-1st1974
PHIL ESPOSITOBest stickhandler1st1971
PHIL ESPOSITOMost dangerous near goal1st1971
PHIL ESPOSITOMost dangerous near goal1st1974
PHIL ESPOSITOMost dangerous near goal2nd1976
PHIL ESPOSITOSmartest player2nd1971
PHIL ESPOSITOSmartest player4th1974
PIERRE LAROUCHEBest playmaker5th1976
PIERRE LAROUCHEBest stickhandler3rd1976
RAY BOURQUEHardest shot3rd1984
RAY COMEAUHardest worker2nd1976
REED LARSONHardest shot3rd1979
REED LARSONHardest shot1st1984
REGGIE LEACHBest short2nd1976
RICK MACLEISHBest skater3rd1976
RICK MARTINBest shotT-1st1974
RICK MARTINBest shot1st1976
RICK MARTINHardest shot4th1974
RICK MARTINHardest shot2nd1976
RICK MARTINMost dangerous near goal2nd1974
RICK MARTINMost dangerous near goal1st1976
RICK MIDDLETONBest defensive forward4th1984
RICK MIDDLETONBest penalty killer2nd1984
RICK MIDDLETONBest skater3rd1984
RICK MIDDLETONBest stickhandler2nd1984
RICK MIDDLETONMost dangerous near goal3rd1984
RICK MIDDLETONMost natural ability4th1984
RICK MIDDLETONSmartest player5th1984
RICK VAIVEHardest shot4th1984
ROD LANGWAYBest bodychecker5th1984
ROD LANGWAYBest defensive defenseman1st1984
ROD SEILINGBest defensive defenseman4th1974
SCOTT STEVENSBest bodychecker1st1984
SCOTT STEVENSToughest player2nd1984
SERGE SAVARDBest defensive defenseman2nd1979
STAN JONATHANToughest player4th1979
STAN MIKITABest on faceoffs2nd1971
STAN MIKITABest on faceoffs1st1974
STAN MIKITABest on faceoffs2nd1976
STAN MIKITABest on faceoffs3rd1979
STAN MIKITABest playmaker1st1974
STAN MIKITABest playmaker3rd1976
STAN MIKITABest stickhandler1st1976
STAN MIKITASmartest player1st1974
STAN MIKITASmartest player1st1976
STAN SMYLBest bodychecker6th1984
SYL APPSBest playmaker2nd1974
TED HARRISBest defensive defensemenT-1st1971
TERRY HARPERBest defensive defenseman5th1976
TERRY O'REILLYBest bodychecker4th1979
TERRY O'REILLYHardest worker2nd1979
TERRY O'REILLYHardest worker3rd1984
TERRY O'REILLYToughest player1st1979
TERRY O'REILLYToughest player4th1984
WALT TKACHUKBest penalty killerT-1st1974
WALT TKACHUKHardest worker2nd1974
WAYNE CASHMANBest checker2nd1976
WAYNE GRETZKYBest passer1st1984
WAYNE GRETZKYBest penalty killer3rd1984
WAYNE GRETZKYBest playmaker1st1984
WAYNE GRETZKYBest shot2nd1984
WAYNE GRETZKYBest stickhandler1st1984
WAYNE GRETZKYFirst player to build team around1st1984
WAYNE GRETZKYHardest worker4th1984
WAYNE GRETZKYMost dangerous near goal1st1984
WAYNE GRETZKYMost natural ability1st1984
WAYNE GRETZKYSmartest player1st1984
YVAN COURNOYERBest shot4th1971
YVAN COURNOYERBest skater2nd1974
YVAN COURNOYERFastest skater1st1976
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Wetcoaster

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Every time I see something about player intangibles I have a George Carlin moment:

Like hey man, if they are intangibles how would we REALLY know if the player has them?
 
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overpass

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Toronto Star Coaches' Poll, February 13, 1993

21 of 24 coaches took part. Coaches were instructed to consider the current season only, and could not vote for their own players.

Best Player: Mario Lemieux (17), Chris Chelios (1), Teemu Selanne (1), Ray Bourque (1), Pavel Bure (1)

Best Defensive Defenceman: Chris Chelios (9), Ray Bourque (7), Scott Stevens (2), Steve Smith (1), Igor Kravchuk (1), Mark Tinordi (1)

Best Stickhandler: Mario Lemieux (14), Pavel Bure (3), Pat LaFontaine (1), Teemu Selanne (1), Jeremy Roenick (1), Wayne Gretzky (1)

Best Goalie: Ed Belfour (9), Kirk McLean (5), Tom Barrasso (2), Patrick Roy (2), Ron Hextall (1), Felix Potvin (1), Mike Vernon (1)
Best pure scorer: Mario Lemieux (10), Alexander Mogilny (3), Pavel Bure (3), Brett Hull (2), Teemu Selanne (2), Luc Robitaille (1), Geoff Courtnall (1)

Best Offensive Defenceman: Phil Housley (6), Ray Bourque (4), Chris Chelios (4), Paul Coffey (2), Brian Leetch (2), Steve Duchesne (1), Kevin Hatcher (1), Al MacInnis (1)

Smartest Player: Mario Lemieux (11), Ray Bourque (2), Adam Oates (2), Doug Gilmour (2), Wayne Gretzky (2), Chris Chelios (1), Pavel Bure (1)

Best Playmaker: Adam Oates (11), Mario Lemieux (9), Doug Gilmour (1)

Best Defensive Forward: Doug Gilmour (6), Joel Otto (5), Ron Francis (3), Dirk Graham (2), Brent Sutter (2), Murray Craven (1), Guy Carbonneau (1), Kelly Miller (1)

Best Penalty Killer: Dave Poulin (4), Doug Gilmour (2), Mario Lemieux (2), Pavel Bure (2), Dirk Graham (2), Sergei Fedorov (2), Mike Ridley (2), Gaetan Duchesne (1), Neil Broten (1), Craig MacTavish (1), Guy Carbonneau (1), Ron Wilson (1)

Best Faceoff Man: Joel Otto (4), Peter Stastny (3), Ron Francis (3), Doug Gilmour (2), Adam Oates (2), Peter Zezel (1), Mark Messier (1), Mario Lemieux (1), Steve Yzerman (1), Jari Kurri (1), Dale Hunter (1), Brent Sutter (1)

Best Skater: Pavel Bure (8), Mike Gartner (4), Paul Coffey (3), Sergei Fedorov (2), Teemu Selanne (2), Pat Lafontaine (1), Chris Chelios (1)

Hardest Worker: Doug Gilmour (6), Jeremy Roenick (5), Craig MacTavish (3), Kirk Muller (3), Kelly Miller (1), Pat Lafontaine (1), Ray Bourque (1), Joel Otto (1)

Most Infuriating: Chris Chelios (3), Claude Lemieux (2), Darius Kasparaitis (2), Dino Ciccarelli (2), Jeremy Roenick (2), Tony Granato (2), Dale Hunter (1), Doug Gilmour (1), Bryan Marchment (1), Jocelyn Lemieux (1), Rob Pearson (1), Marty McSorley (1), Kevin Dineen (1), Paul Broten (1)

Most Underrated: Larry Murphy (3), Kelly Buchberger (2), Ron Francis (2), Steve Larmer (2), Doug Gilmour (1), Adam Oates (1), Steve Chiasson (1), Kevin Stevens (1), Jeremy Roenick (1), Pierre Turgeon (1), Rod Brind’Amour (1), Kirk Muller (1), Joe Juneau (1), Tony Granato (1), Mark Recchi (1)

Toughest Player: Chris Chelios (7), Gary Roberts (4), Rick Tocchet (3), Jeremy Roenick (2), Randy McKay (1), Adam Graves (1), Bob Probert (1), Dirk Graham (1), Doug Gilmour (1)

Best Coach: Scott Bowman (8), Al Arbour (4), Pat Quinn (4), Bob Gainey (3), Pat Burns (1), Darryl Sutter (1)

Best Team: Pittsburgh (17), Vancouver (2), Chicago (2)

Best Shot: Al Iafrate (5), Al MacInnis (3), Teemu Selanne (3), Brett Hull (2), Ray Bourque (2), Luc Robitaille (1), Doug Gilmour (1),
Chris Chelios (1), Pavel Bure (1), Steve Larmer (1), Mario Lemieux (1)

Best Fighter: Bob Probert (15), Gino Odjick (2), Tie Domi (1), Dave Brown (1), Marty McSorley (1), Mark Tinordi (1)

Best Bodychecker: Mark Tinordi (6), Scott Stevens (5), Bryan Marchment (3), Jocelyn Lemieux (2), Derian Hatcher (1), Rob Pearson (1), Darisu Kasparaitus (1), Adam Graves (1), Jeremy Roenick (1)
 
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Toronto Star Coaches' Poll, January 22, 1994

20 of 26 coaches took part. Coaches were instructed to consider the current season only, and could not vote for their own players.

Best Player: Sergei Fedorov (15), Wayne Gretzky (3), Ray Bourque (1), Doug Gilmour (1)

Best Goalie: John Vanbiesbrouck (6), Patrick Roy (5), Felix Potvin (3), Curtis Joseph (3), Mike Richter (3)

Best Defensive Defenceman: Ray Bourque (8), Chris Chelios (4), Scott Stevens (3), Teppo Numminen (1), Mark Tinordi (1), Nicklas Lidstrom (1), Sylvain Lefebvre (1), Eric Desjardins (1)

Best Offensive Defenceman: Brian Leetch (8), Ray Bourque (7), Paul Coffey (3), Chris Chelios (1), Al MacInnis (1)

Best Defensive Forward: Sergei Fedorov (6), Doug Gilmour (3), Brian Skrudland (3), Guy Carbonneau (2), Adam Graves (2), Joel Otto (1), Mark Messier (1), Wayne Gretzky (1), Ron Francis (1)

Best Penalty Killer: Sergei Fedorov (5), Doug Gilmour (4), Guy Carbonneau (4), Adam Graves (2), Mike Ridley (1), Neal Broten (1), Mike Gartner (1), Mark Messier (1), Gaetan Duchesne (1)

Best Bodychecker: Eric Lindros (9), Bryan Marchment (3), Scott Stevens (3), Wendel Clark (1), Keith Tkachuk (1), Darius Kasparaitis (1), Adam Graves (1), Mark Tinordi (1)

Best Faceoff Man: Ron Francis (10), Joel Otto (7), Doug Gilmour (1), Ron Sutter (1), Adam Oates (1)

Best Stickhandler: Jaromir Jagr (5), Sergei Fedorov (4), Alexander Mogilny (4), Wayne Gretzky (3), Alexei Zhamnov (1), Pierre Turgeon (1), Sergei Nemchinov (1), Eric Lindros (1)

Smartest Player: Wayne Gretzky (12), Doug Gilmour (4), Mario Lemieux (1), Chris Chelios (1), Ron Francis (1), Steve Larmer (1)

Hardest Working Player: Doug Gilmour (6), Adam Graves (3), Jeremy Roenick (3), Kirk Muller (2), Gary Roberts (2), Ray Ferraro (1), Sergei Fedorov (1), Craig MacTavish (1), Mike Gartner (1)

Most Underrated Player: Joey Mullen (4), Adam Graves (3), Brendan Shanahan (2), Keith Tkachuk (2), John Maclean (1), Joey Juneau (1), Sergei Zubov (1), Sergei Fedorov (1), Joe Nieuwendyk (1), Vladimir Malakhov (1), Mike Modano (1), Mark Recchi (1), Dave Andreychuk (1)

Best Fighter: Bob Probert (9), Craig Berube (2), Joey Kocur (2), Tie Domi (1), Cam Neely (1), Marty McSorley (1), Gino Odjick (1), Dave Brown (1), Shane Churla (1)

Toughest Player: Cam Neely (5), Eric Lindros (3), Wendel Clark (2), Doug Gilmour (2), Bob Probert (1), Scott Stevens (1), Chris Chelios (1), Marty McSorley (1), Mark Tinordi (1), Adam Graves (1), Rick Tocchet (1), Brendan Shanahan (1)

Best Shot: Brett Hull (6), Al MacInnis (4), Mike Modano (2), Mike Gartner (1), Ray Bourque (1), Jimmy Carson (1), Alexander Mogilny (1), Eric Lindros (1), Joey Mullen (1), Cam Neely (1), Sergei Fedorov (1)

Best Skater: Sergei Fedorov (8), Teemu Selanne (3), Paul Coffey (2), Mike Modano (2), Mike Gartner (2), Pavel Bure (1), Alexander Mogilny (1), Jeremy Roenick (1)

Best Pure Scorer: Brett Hull (7), Dave Andreychuk (6), Alexander Mogilny (2), Sergei Fedorov (2), Cam Neely (1), Kevin Stevens (1), Jaromir Jagr (1)

Best Playmaker: Wayne Gretzky (9), Adam Oates (5), Doug Gilmour (4), Sergei Fedorov (1), Craig Janney (1)

Most Infuriating Player: Ulf Samuelsson (5), Tony Granato (3), Marty McSorley (2), Theo Fleury (2), Dale Hunter (1), Keith Tkachuk (1), Doug Gilmour (1), Jamie Macoun (1), Warren Rychel (1), Shayne Corson (1), Keith Acton (1), Chris Chelios (1)

Best Coach: Pat Burns (6), Mike Keenan (4), Scott Bowman (4), Roger Neilson (3), Al Arbour (1), Jacques Lemaire (1), Ron Wilson (1)

Best Team: New York Rangers (13), Detroit Red Wings (6), Montreal Canadiens (1)
 
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Its hard to get too much from these results because it seems every coach had different favorites.

The guys with 5-8 votes obviously deserve merit, but its hard to read to much else into the guys who got 1 vote in a category.

Nice to see these polls being dug up though. I hope to see many more.
 

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21 of 24 coaches took part. Coaches were instructed to consider the current season only, and could not vote for their own players.

[ ... ]

Best pure scorer: Mario Lemieux (10), Alexander Mogilny (3), Pavel Bure (3), Brett Hull (2), Teemu Selanne (2), Luc Robitaille (1), Geoff Courtnall (1)

[ ... ]

Best Penalty Killer: Dave Poulin (4), Doug Gilmour (2), Mario Lemieux (2), Pavel Bure (2), Dirk Graham (2), Sergei Fedorov (2), Mike Ridley (2), Gaetan Duchesne (1), Neil Broten (1), Craig MacTavish (1), Guy Carbonneau (1), Ron Wilson (1)

[ ... ]

Best Skater: Pavel Bure (8), Mike Gartner (4), Paul Coffey (3), Sergei Fedorov (2), Teemu Selanne (2), Pat Lafontaine (1), Chris Chelios (1)

lol at chris chelios being considered the best skater in the league by one coach

geoff courtnall being considered the best pure scorer by one coach

pavel bure being considered the best penalty killer by two ... although this probably says something about the foul myth that bure was the worst defensive forward to ever play the game :shakehead
 

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lol at chris chelios being considered the best skater in the league by one coach

geoff courtnall being considered the best pure scorer by one coach

pavel bure being considered the best penalty killer by two ... although this probably says something about the foul myth that bure was the worst defensive forward to ever play the game :shakehead
Did you also note the fact that Mario Lemieux was right in front of him as best Pker?

A few coaches favor using speedy and shifty offensive forwards on the penalty kill to generate offense from shorthanded play. He was not there for his defense. He was there to score goals.

It does nothing to dispel the fact that Bure did figure 8's by his blueline 5 on 5 waiting for breakout passes, essentially leaving his team shorthanded so he could go on breakaway attempts. That is where his reputation comes from and that is bang on.
 
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Did you also note the fact that Mario Lemieux was right in front of him as best Pker?

A few coaches favor using speedy and shifty offensive forwards on the penalty kill to generate offense from shorthanded play. He was not there for his defense. He was there to score goals.

It does nothing to dispel the fact that Bure did figure 8's by his blueline 5 on 5 waiting for breakout passes, essentially leaving his team shorthanded so he could go on breakaway attempts. That is where his reputation comes from and that is bang on.

ok, i know he wasn't there to be a defensive first guy, that's why i said lol at it, but the fact is he didn't cheat on the defender in vancouver to the same extent as he did later on in florida ... he didn't do that when he went straight through ray bourque and another bruin defender [no. 25, possibly paul stanton] to score that goal vs boston for example

this is from a toronto star article from may 19, 1994, found on on the pbfc site http://www.pbfc.org/Oldnews/may94/may94.html

it's about the western conference finals between vancouver and toronto [vancouver won that series 4-1]

Also, with the Canucks defending their one-goal lead in the final minute against a Leaf team that had pulled its goalie, there was Bure on the ice in a defensive posture, hounding centre Doug Gilmour. "I don't always use him that way," Quinn said with a smile. "It was just a hunch tonight. He's done it from time to time. I thought quickness was going to be an element, and he did get the puck a couple of times."
 

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Its hard to get too much from these results because it seems every coach had different favorites.

The guys with 5-8 votes obviously deserve merit, but its hard to read to much else into the guys who got 1 vote in a category.

Nice to see these polls being dug up though. I hope to see many more.

I think these coaches polls have clear merit. I also wish they were either done each year (were they?) or that if they were done each year we had the results for each year. I think in a lot of ways they are more enlightening than AS voting or award voting. Better coaches vote than journalists. IMO. Better vote on specific talents as well.

I like these votes and maybe there are more that were held so far unreported on HF? I hope so and that someone can post them here.
 

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21 of 24 coaches took part. Coaches were instructed to consider the current season only, and could not vote for their own players.

Best Player: Mario Lemieux (17), Chris Chelios (1), Teemu Selanne (1), Ray Bourque (1), Pavel Bure (1)

Best Defensive Defenceman: Chris Chelios (9), Ray Bourque (7), Scott Stevens (2), Steve Smith (1), Igor Kravchuk (1), Mark Tinordi (1)

Best Stickhandler: Mario Lemieux (14), Pavel Bure (3), Pat LaFontaine (1), Teemu Selanne (1), Jeremy Roenick (1), Wayne Gretzky (1)

Best Goalie: Ed Belfour (9), Kirk McLean (5), Tom Barrasso (2), Patrick Roy (2), Ron Hextall (1), Felix Potvin (1), Mike Vernon (1)
Best pure scorer: Mario Lemieux (10), Alexander Mogilny (3), Pavel Bure (3), Brett Hull (2), Teemu Selanne (2), Luc Robitaille (1), Geoff Courtnall (1)

Best Offensive Defenceman: Phil Housley (6), Ray Bourque (4), Chris Chelios (4), Paul Coffey (2), Brian Leetch (2), Steve Duchesne (1), Kevin Hatcher (1), Al MacInnis (1)

Smartest Player: Mario Lemieux (11), Ray Bourque (2), Adam Oates (2), Doug Gilmour (2), Wayne Gretzky (2), Chris Chelios (1), Pavel Bure (1)

Best Playmaker: Adam Oates (11), Mario Lemieux (9), Doug Gilmour (1)

Best Defensive Forward: Doug Gilmour (6), Joel Otto (5), Ron Francis (3), Dirk Graham (2), Brent Sutter (2), Murray Craven (1), Guy Carbonneau (1), Kelly Miller (1)

Best Penalty Killer: Dave Poulin (4), Doug Gilmour (2), Mario Lemieux (2), Pavel Bure (2), Dirk Graham (2), Sergei Fedorov (2), Mike Ridley (2), Gaetan Duchesne (1), Neil Broten (1), Craig MacTavish (1), Guy Carbonneau (1), Ron Wilson (1)

Best Faceoff Man: Joel Otto (4), Peter Stastny (3), Ron Francis (3), Doug Gilmour (2), Adam Oates (2), Peter Zezel (1), Mark Messier (1), Mario Lemieux (1), Steve Yzerman (1), Jari Kurri (1), Dale Hunter (1), Brent Sutter (1)

Best Skater: Pavel Bure (8), Mike Gartner (4), Paul Coffey (3), Sergei Fedorov (2), Teemu Selanne (2), Pat Lafontaine (1), Chris Chelios (1)

Hardest Worker: Doug Gilmour (6), Jeremy Roenick (5), Craig MacTavish (3), Kirk Muller (3), Kelly Miller (1), Pat Lafontaine (1), Ray Bourque (1), Joel Otto (1)

Most Infuriating: Chris Chelios (3), Claude Lemieux (2), Darius Kasparaitis (2), Dino Ciccarelli (2), Jeremy Roenick (2), Tony Granato (2), Dale Hunter (1), Doug Gilmour (1), Bryan Marchment (1), Jocelyn Lemieux (1), Rob Pearson (1), Marty McSorley (1), Kevin Dineen (1), Paul Broten (1)

Most Underrated: Larry Murphy (3), Kelly Buchberger (2), Ron Francis (2), Steve Larmer (2), Doug Gilmour (1), Adam Oates (1), Steve Chiasson (1), Kevin Stevens (1), Jeremy Roenick (1), Pierre Turgeon (1), Rod Brind’Amour (1), Kirk Muller (1), Joe Juneau (1), Tony Granato (1), Mark Recchi (1)

Toughest Player: Chris Chelios (7), Gary Roberts (4), Rick Tocchet (3), Jeremy Roenick (2), Randy McKay (1), Adam Graves (1), Bob Probert (1), Dirk Graham (1), Doug Gilmour (1)

Best Coach: Scott Bowman (8), Al Arbour (4), Pat Quinn (4), Bob Gainey (3), Pat Burns (1), Darryl Sutter (1)

Best Team: Pittsburgh (17), Vancouver (2), Chicago (2)

Best Shot: Al Iafrate (5), Al MacInnis (3), Teemu Selanne (3), Brett Hull (2), Ray Bourque (2), Luc Robitaille (1), Doug Gilmour (1),
Chris Chelios (1), Pavel Bure (1), Steve Larmer (1), Mario Lemieux (1)

Best Fighter: Bob Probert (15), Gino Odjick (2), Tie Domi (1), Dave Brown (1), Marty McSorley (1), Mark Tinordi (1)

Best Bodychecker: Mark Tinordi (6), Scott Stevens (5), Bryan Marchment (3), Jocelyn Lemieux (2), Derian Hatcher (1), Rob Pearson (1), Darisu Kasparaitus (1), Adam Graves (1), Jeremy Roenick (1)

Interesting to see Stevens in 3rd place for "best defensive defensemen" in 92-93. I think we generally assume he was a big hitter who didn't really focus on his defensive play until at least 93-94, but the coaches seem to think that wasn't the case.

Also interesting to see Bure on the list of best penalty killers.
 

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I know these polls were both taken right at the height of Gilmour's dominance, but still, it is refreshing to see him score so highly in so many categories.
 

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Interesting to see Stevens in 3rd place for "best defensive defensemen" in 92-93. I think we generally assume he was a big hitter who didn't really focus on his defensive play until at least 93-94, but the coaches seem to think that wasn't the case.

Also interesting to see Bure on the list of best penalty killers.

He was far more raw defensively back in the 80's and early 90's, although still very good. His defensive game did not hit its real peaks until he focused entirely on that aspect of his game. He also became MUCH better at judging when he could throw those big open ice hits without going out of position(Larry Robinson had a bit to do with that)

I seem to remember us having a discussion on whether he should have beaten Bourque for the Norris in 94 and a few claiming Bourque won only by "Reputation" points, and that Stevens was superior on both ends of the ice. The coaches 94 poll seems to nullify that, with Bourque winning top defensive defenseman honors by double that of the next player(Chelios), and second best Offensive defenseman honors(Only 1 point away from 1st Leetch).:handclap:

Bure winning 2 PK votes out of 21 does not surprise me, given some coaches back then being much more open to speedy and shifty offensive forwards like Gretzky and Lemieux being used on the PK. getting 2 votes out of 21 is not all that impresive. I really wished they had to vote on 2nd and 3rd places for these polls so we could get a clearer picture:(
 

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"Hockey Illustrated" Coaches' Poll, 1965

This poll was taken by US hockey magazine "Hockey Illustrated", and the results were summarized in the Toronto Star by Jim Proudfoot on January 22, 1965.

Best penalty killer
1. Bob Pulford
2. Don Marshall

No other players received votes.

Most dangerous on a breakaway
1. Gordie Howe
2. Dave Keon

Howe and Keon were tied after the coaches voted, so Sam Pollock was asked to cast the tiebreaker. He chose Howe solely on the basis of Howe's great experience.

Fastest Skater
1. Dave Keon
2. Bobby Hull
3. Henri Richard
4. Gilles Tremblay
5. Ralph Backstrom

Richard, Tremblay, and Backstrom were mentioned as receiving votes, but no order for the three of them was specified.

Hardest Hitter
1. Bobby Baun
2. Leo Boivin
3. Ted Green

Proudfoot noted that Boivin had previously been considered the league's hardest hitter.

Hardest Shot
1. Bobby Hull
2. Jean Beliveau
3. Gordie Howe

Beliveau was close behind Hull in the vote.

"Men who can burst out for goals strictly on their own"
1. Jean Beliveau
2. Camille Henry

I'm not sure how this question was worded in the poll, but this is how Proudfoot worded it in his summary.
 
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Montreal Gazette of March 13, 1934 has a poll of hockey writers/editors conducted by Canadian Press in connection with the all star voting.


fastest skater:
Howie Morenz 10, Busher Jackson 5, Hec Kilrea 4, Mush March 4, Jimmy Ward 3, Herbie Lewis 2, John Sorrel 1, Cecil Dillon 1, Jerry Shannon 1, Buzz Boll 1, Georges Mantha 1,

best stickhandler:
Aurel Joliat 17, Johnny Gottselig 5, Frank Boucher 4, Joe Primeau 2, Larry Aurie 2, Bun Cook 1, Nels Stewart 1, Busher Jackson 1, Ace Bailey 1

hardest shot:
Charlie Conacher 32, Lionel Concher 1, Jimmy Ward 1

best line:
Jackson - Primeau - Conacher 28
Cook - Boucher - Cook 7

greatest box office attraction: Eddie Shore 24, TML 6, NYR 1, Howie Morenz 1, Aurel Joliat 1
 

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Given how little love he got here, I would expect The Great One to have gotten tons of "most underrated" votes, but he didn't get any of those either. What gives? He got plenty of offensive votes the next year in '94 ... did the guy just dry up in the eyes of voters?

I think this underlies a "what have I seen lately" bias in a lot of these polls ... ESPN fan polls are the same way. A coach is often going to overestimate a divisional rival or a guy who smoked his team just last week. Seems as though this poll caught Gretzky during a bad week.

He missed 39 games that year. That's why. And you do realize they are based on what was done the previous season...
 

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Best Skater: Pavel Bure (8), Mike Gartner (4), Paul Coffey (3), Sergei Fedorov (2), Teemu Selanne (2), Pat Lafontaine (1), Chris Chelios (1)

1993 poll next year it was

Best Skater: Sergei Fedorov (8), Teemu Selanne (3), Paul Coffey (2), Mike Modano (2), Mike Gartner (2), Pavel Bure (1), Alexander Mogilny (1), Jeremy Roenick (1)

I wonder how much really changed in the 1 year period or if this goes to show that a lot of voting and polling done even by experts such as coaches is very subjective and not very focused.

It just really jumped out at me, I mean Federov was in the middle of his MVP season, maybe more guys just noticed him in 94 than 93.
 

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Great thread. For younger guys such as myself, we've never had a chance to see these guys play. It's nice to be able to attach a certain style of play to a well known name.
 

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I find these invaluable - I'm hoping we can get more posted.
It's been a while since I have seen Coach's polls, but the player's polls from recent years are almost as good.
 

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1994 St Louis Post-Dispatch Coaches Poll, in conjunction with Beckett Hockey Magazine.

From the St Louis Post-Dispatch, May 7, 1994.

During the 1993-94 season, we asked the 26 head coaches in the NHL to give us their winner in 13 individual categories.

Coaches could not vote for members of their team.

Every coach participated. One note: The Edmonton answers were supplied by Ted Green before he was relieved as coach by Glen Sather.

Best Shot
1. Brett Hull (15) 2. Al MacInnis (5) 3. (tie) Cam Neely, Mario Lemieux (2).
Others: (1) Mike Gartner, Mario Lemeiux.
The category was for best shot, not necessarily the hardest.
That distinction wasn't necessary with Hull.
"Hardest and most accurate," Toronto's Pat Burns said.
"He puts it where he wants it more times than anyone else," Tampa Bay's Terry Crisp said.

Most Underrated
1. Adam Graves (4) 2. (tie) Joe Mullen, Steve Thomas, Keith Tkachuk (2).
Others: (1) Dave Andreychuk, Bob Bassen, Wendel Clark, Ron Francis, Dave Hannan, Dale Hawerchuk, Craig Janney, Curtis Joseph, Kevin Miller, Teppo Numminen, Lyle Odelein, Adam Oates, Paul Ranheim, Mark Recchi, Brendan Shanahan, Brian Skrudland.
With 20 players receiving votes, this was the most far-flung category.
Mullen, the ageless ex-Blues sniper, was named by Scotty Bowman of Detroit and Jim Schoenfeld of Washington.
Shanahan seems overqualified for this list. Burns didn't think so: "People don't talk about him. I love this guy. He does it all - scores, fights, hits, checks. He's a great player."
Pat Quinn of Vancouver chose Janney, and Darryl Sutter of Chicago took Joseph.
Grinders Bassen of Quebec, a former Blues player, and Miller fit the unsung-hero mold.
Blues coach Bob Berry went with Buffalo center Hannan.

Fastest Skater
1. Sergei Fedorov (10) 2. Pavel Bure (5) 3. (tie) Paul Coffey, Mike Gartner, Mike Modano, Alexander Mogilny (2).
Others: Jaromir Jagr, Nelson Emerson, Phil Housley, Slava Kozlov, Jeremy Roenick.
The vote totals more than 26 because Bowman and the Rangers' Mike Keenan of the Rangers each cast a blanket ballot for the Russian troika of Fedorov, Bure and Mogilny.
Barry Melrose of Los Angeles chose Housley. Berry chose Emerson.

Best Faceoff Man
1. Joel Otto (8) 2. Ron Francis (7) 3. (tie) Doug Gilmour, Eric Lindros, Mark Messier (2).
Others: Guy Carboneau, Travis Green, Kelly Kisio, Craig MacTavish, Adam Oates.
Brian Sutter of Boston and his brother, Darryl, took Gilmour. Jacques Lemaire of New Jersey named Oates.
Berry cast the lone vote for Kisio.

Best Defensive Forward
1. Sergei Fedorov (5) 2. (tie) Guy Carbonneau, Doug Gilmour, Joel Otto, Brian Skrudland (3).
Others: (2) Jari Kurri; (1) Mike Eagles, Ron Francis, Mike Gartner, Dirk Graham, Adam Graves, Claude LaPointe, Ron Wilson.
Berry took Wilson, who signed with Montreal when the Blues released him last summer.
Jacques Demers of Montreal, Pierre Page of Quebec and Darryl Sutter took Gilmour.
Keenan, who took Graham, participated under protest: "I wish they would recategorize that thing. The player who has the puck should get it. You're not going to score when they have the puck." Then it would go to Fedorov or Wayne Gretzky, he said.

Best Power-Play Point Man
1. (tie) Ray Bourque, Al MacInnis, Brian Leetch (6).
Others: (3) Sergei Zubov; (2) Paul Coffey, Phil Housley; (1) Chris Chelios.
Housley showed well despite missing most of the season with the Blues after being acquired from Winnipeg.
"Winnipeg's power play is not as good this year," Dave King of Calgary said, "and Housley's the reason."
Berry took MacInnis, the Calgary boomer.

Best Penalty Killer
1. Guy Carbonneau (6) 2. (tie) Sergei Fedorov, Adam Graves, Joel Otto (3)
Others: (2) Doug Gilmour, Mark Messier; (1) Ray Bourque, Neal Broten, Mike Gartner, Wayne Gretzky, Jarri Kurri, Craig MacTavish, Ron Wilson (1)
Berry chose Carbonneau, the best defensive player of his generation.
Terry Simpson of Philadelphia took Wilson.

Best Shot Blocker
1. Guy Carbonneau (12) 2. Craig Ludwig (4).
Others (1) Garth Butcher, Steve Chaisson, Mike Keane, Craig MacTavish, Craig Muni, Joel Otto, Mike Ramsey, Paul Ranheim, Kjell Samuelsson, Mark Tinordi.
This category was the stumper for most voters.
"That's a lost art," said Crisp, who chose Butcher.
"Carbonneau," King said, "but only because Curt Giles is gone. It's a dying art."
Berry chose Ramsey of Pittsburgh before the playoffs. Otherwise, he might have backed Dallas' Ludwig, who blocked many shots in the Round 1 sweep of the Blues.

Best Power Forward
1. Cam Neely (7) 2. Eric Lindros (6) 3. Brendan Shanahan (4).
Others: (2) Adam Graves, Jaromir Jagr, Mark Messier; (1) Wendell Clark, Mike Gartner, Kevin Stevens.
Neely, the big, bad Bruin with a bad knee, astounded many voters with his 50 goals in 49 games.
"On one leg," King said. "He's awesome. He's killed us this year. He got four goals in two games."
Al Arbour of the Islanders said, "On one leg, he's been unbelievable."
Burns again stood up for Shanahan, saying: "Brendan can do it all. Lindros doesn't do it all yet."
Melrose, Quinn and Simpson also backed Shanahan.
Berry - not allowed to choose his player, Shanahan - went with Lindros, the Philadelphia manchild.

Best Defensive Defenseman
1. Ray Bourque (8) 2. Chris Chelios (6) 3. Scott Stevens (4).
Others: (1) Ken Daneyko, Sylvain Lefebvre, Jamie Macoun, Teppo Numminen, Bob Rouse, Kjell Samuelsson, Ulf Samuelsson, Steve Smith.
Finding defensemen who specialize only in defense was a brain teaser.
"Are there any?" Crisp asked.
"Is Larry Robinson still in the league?" asked Berry, who opted for Kjell Samuelsson of Pittsburgh.
Ex-Blues captain Stevens led the Devils in scoring and the NHL with a plus-53 rating. "He's tough one on one," Burns said.

Best Goalie Stickhandler
1. Ron Hextall (21) 2. Tom Barrasso (3).
Others: (1) Dominik Hasek, Kirk MacLean.
In the words of Tampa's Crisp, "That's a walkaway."
He, Berry and nearly every other coach chose the Islanders' Hextall. He sometimes had trouble stopping the puck this season. When he did, he knew what to do with it.
The wandering goalie, who plays like a third defenseman, was the first in NHL history to shoot a puck into the opposite goal.
Schoenfeld said: "Hextall's the most, but not the best. Hasek reads the play well. He really jumps out of the net when the other line's tired. He's alert. He's aware."

Best Goalie Glove Hand
1. Curtis Joseph (17) 2. Patrick Roy (3) 3. Bill Ranford (2).
Others: (1) Grant Fuhr, Andy Moog, Felix Potvin, Mike Vernon.
Joseph almost dominated with his glove the way Hextall did with his stick.
Joseph won with little commentary from the voters. Either a goalie catches the puck or he doesn't. Joseph does. He was flattered at being the coach's choice.
"But you really should have another category for goalies: best at making the second save," Joseph said.

Player You Hate To Play Against
1. (tie) Ray Bourque, Mario Lemieux (3) 2. (tie) Sergei Fedorov, Dale Hunter, Wayne Gretzky (2)
Others: Keith Acton, Chris Chelios, Ron Francis, Doug Gilmour, Curtis Joseph, Darius Kasparaitis, Eric Lindros, Mark Messier, Cam Neely, Adam Oates, Lyle Odelein, Patrick Roy, Ulf Samuelsson, Brendan Shanahan.
With 19 players named, this was the second-most-diverse vote.
They ranged from the ridiculously pesky to the sublimely skilled to the sublimely ridiculous combination of both.
Berry dreads Lemieux because of "his overall skills, and the fact that when he's in the lineup, (the Penguins) win the majority of their games."
The pests surfaced in force.
Crisp chose Acton over Butcher, saying, "They drive you nuts."
The list is a who's who of personal nemeses.
Darryl Sutter took Shanahan, who roughs up his Blackhawks.
Kevin Constantine of San Jose took Joseph, who has baffled his Sharks.
Brian Sutter of Boston picked Samuelsson, whose hit a couple of years ago started Neely's leg problems with the Bruins.
Ottawa's Rick Bowness shudders at the sight of Oates: "He can beat you in a lot of different ways."
 

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1990 poll of 123 NHL players from 1-21-1990 Pittsburgh Press

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=90MgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7ZYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5762,1654607&dq=mike+ramsey&hl=en


Who would you want to be on a breakaway for your team with 30 seconds left and the score tied in the 7th game of a Stanley Cup final?
M Lemieux (59), W Gretzky (12), S Yzerman (10), P Turgeon (4), T Steen (3)

Who would you want as your goalie to stop an opponent's breakaway with 30 seconds left and the score tied in the 7th game of a Stanley Cup final?
G Fuhr (40), P Roy (17), D Puppa (14), M Vernon (11), M Liut (8), J Vanbiesbrouck (8)

Which 5 players would you choose if you were starting a franchise?
W Gretzky (83), M Lemieux (74), M Messier (63), R Bourque (61), Yzerman (37)

Best all around player
M Messier (64), W Gretzky (19), R Bourque (13), M Lemieux (4), J Kurri (4), S Yzerman (4)

Toughest to defend against
W Gretzky (30), M Messier (25), M Lemieux (24), Yzerman (7), R Bourque (6)

5 most underrated players
T Steen (29), A Oates (22), S Larmer (18), J Mullen (18), G Gallant (14)

5 most overrated players
R Brown (39), J Carson (23), V Fetisov (20), R Langway (20), L Robitaille (18)

Best puckhandler
M Lemieux (37), W Gretzky (32), D Savard (17), S Yzerman (7), S Makarov (5)

Best skater
P Coffey (53), M Messier (25), D Savard (8), M Gartner (6), P Lafontaine (4)

Hardest slapshot
A MacInnis: (68), D Wilson (22), S Richer (11), B Hull (5), D Ellett (3)

Best defensive defenseman
M Ramsey (34), B McCrimmon (17), K Lowe (14), C Ludwig (13), R Bourque (8)

Best offensive defenseman
P Coffey (68), R Bourque (21), P Housley (9), B Leetch (8), G Suter (8)

Best playmaker
W Gretzky (102), M Lemieux (6), A Oates (2), S Yzerman (1), D Savard (1), D Brown (1), J Nieuwendyk (1), J Tucker (1)

Best coach
P Burns (13), R Dudley (11), M Keenan (8), A Arbour (4), P Page (4)
 

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1958 Coaches' Poll, published in the March 22 edition of the Toronto Star

The six NHL coaches - Toe Blake, Billy Reay, Sid Abel, Phil Watson, Rudy Pilous, and Milt Schmidt - all voted.

Only the winners were listed for each category, and no vote totals were given.
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The text of the article named some other players who received votes. I've included those in parentheses, but it is not necessarily a complete list of players who received votes.

Best and fastest skater - Henri Richard, Montreal (closest thing possible to a unanimous choice)

Smartest player - Gordie Howe, Detroit (Andy Bathgate)

Best passer and playmaker - Gordie Howe, Detroit (Beliveau was close behind)

Hardest shot - Boom-Boom Geoffrion, Montreal (Doug Mohns was mentioned prominently, Andy Bathgate)

Most accurate shot - Maurice Richard, Montreal (Camille Henry, Andy Bathgate)

Best stickhandler - Larry Regan, Boston (Andy Bathgate)

Best man on breakaway - Maurice Richard, Montreal (Camille Henry)

Best puck carrier - Gordie Howe, Detroit

Best penalty killer - Jerry Toppazzini, Boston (Red Sullivan had strong support)

Best referee - Eddie Powers (Red Storey)

Best fighter - Fern Flaman, Boston (Dick Duff, Henri Richard, Ian Cushenan, Lou Fontinato)

Best defensive forward, checker - Red Sullivan, New York (Bert Olmstead, Nick Mickoski, Alex Delvecchio)

Best hustler, hardest worker - Red Sullivan, New York (Vic Stasiuk, Claude Provost)

Hardest bodychecker - Leo Boivin, Boston (Pierre Pilote)

Most underrated - Tom Johnson, Montreal (Camille Henry, Johnny Bucyk, Andy Bathgate)

Most improved - Forbes Kennedy, Detroit (Dickie Moore, Lou Fontinato, Henri Richard, Brian Cullen)

Best goalie on screened shots - Terry Sawchuk, Detroit (Glenn Hall had strong support in both goalie categories as well, and Jacques Plante had some votes)

Best goalie, man against man - Terry Sawchuk, Detroit

Best defensive defenceman - Doug Harvey, Montreal (far and away the best defensive rearguard - Marcel Pronovost and Fernie Flaman were mentioned also)

Best attacking defenceman - Bill Gadsby, New York (Harvey was very, very close behind)

Discussion thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1370669
 

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Do we have anything for capturing players and coaches' comments on intangibles? I have some stuff noted and sourced but, short of it coming up during a thread, is there a way to share it here so it can be referenced by anyone who wants it?
 

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