Striiker
Former Flyers Fan
Sanheim >Myers > MacDonald + Hagg
Not debatable.
Hakstols already fired. Why not just give it up?
Not debatable.
Hakstols already fired. Why not just give it up?
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Provorov is our 4th (!!) best offensive Dman.
Ghost
Sanheim
Myers
Easily.
Provorov hasnt so good vision and creativity.
Put him with Jake and G!
Sanheim >Myers > MacDonald + Hagg
Not debatable.
Hakstols already fired. Why not just give it up?
I like posters like JoJo, he may argue that I'm wrong (and sometimes he's right about that) but he debates the evidence, and doesn't just expect me to accept his opinion. That's the kind of debate that elevates discussion on this board.
I respect Magua, who provides good reasons for his rating of players and prospects, generally defer to Appleyard (though sometimes he overdoes the metrics), but ignore those who just throw out opinions without substantiation.
As far as those who ascribe motives to me and engage in character assassination (calling someone a liar is trolling), well, I hold them in the same regard I hold the POTUS.
Great postI like posters like JoJo, he may argue that I'm wrong (and sometimes he's right about that) but he debates the evidence, and doesn't just expect me to accept his opinion. That's the kind of debate that elevates discussion on this board.
I respect Magua, who provides good reasons for his rating of players and prospects, generally defer to Appleyard (though sometimes he overdoes the metrics), but ignore those who just throw out opinions without substantiation.
As far as those who ascribe motives to me and engage in character assassination (calling someone a liar is trolling), well, I hold them in the same regard I hold the POTUS.
How do you know if Gudas has shown leadership?Some posters are looking for veteran leadership on the back end. Gudas has six plus seasons in the league. IMO he has shown leadership this season. Except for his except for his pairing with Hagg, he usually does well with the partner with whom he is paired. Sanheim and Gudas were probably the best pairing on the i.e. for the Flyers this season when they played together. Ghost is no raw rookie. He has four seasons under his belt now. At this point in a career one would expect him to be able to be a "leader" in a pairing with a rookie. I don't see that happening.
This is where the dysfunction on defense occurs. There are good defensemen on the roster. However they just don't fit together skills wise in pairings. Time in the league doesn't have as much to do with it as some think.
Deadhead over exaggerating Myers struggles as soon as there's a rough patch is so predictable. No, he's not "costing them games"
Predicatble, but still hilarious given that he was the guy saying Myers would more NHL ready than Sanheim because of his size & strength. Given that Myers is only slightly bigger than Sanheim, but is MUCH bigger & stronger than MacDonald, Myers must be already a much better defender than Andy.
I like posters like JoJo, he may argue that I'm wrong (and sometimes he's right about that) but he debates the evidence, and doesn't just expect me to accept his opinion. That's the kind of debate that elevates discussion on this board.
I respect Magua, who provides good reasons for his rating of players and prospects, generally defer to Appleyard (though sometimes he overdoes the metrics), but ignore those who just throw out opinions without substantiation.
As far as those who ascribe motives to me and engage in character assassination (calling someone a liar is trolling), well, I hold them in the same regard I hold the POTUS.
Predicatble, but still hilarious given that he was the guy saying Myers would more NHL ready than Sanheim because of his size & strength. Given that Myers is only slightly bigger than Sanheim, but is MUCH bigger & stronger than MacDonald, Myers must be already a much better defender than Andy.
Not everyone has the patience to pick apart your obviously cherry picked arguments
The easy answer in all of this is that Hagg needs to sit. AMac stinks but he’s better than Hagg and he also fits into more pairing logically than Hagg. Hagg maybe could be passable in essentially a perfect scenario with the the perfect partner, which is one we do not have here.
Sit both, add Morin.The easy answer in all of this is that Hagg needs to sit. AMac stinks but he’s better than Hagg and he also fits into more pairing logically than Hagg. Hagg maybe could be passable in essentially a perfect scenario with the the perfect partner, which is one we do not have here.
Ah, the “mentor” argument again.A big issue is that we have this young talented D core but haven't had a good veteran with them to help them mature with their game. I mean really they've had MacDonald as the alternate D captain and Gudas who doesn't strike me as a leadership type. We really just need/needed some veteran, non-liability type to help lead the D core along. A failure in planning on Hextall's part.
Sit both, add Morin.
Provorov-Sanheim
Ghost-Myers
Morin-Gudas
He'll have his struggles, but at least he has a chance to be decent and gains some experience. Hagg and MacDonald are just plain trash and that's not changing... there's zero upside there and no point in wasting time with them.