GrandmaSlices51631
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So you mean to tell me teams send off 1st round picks with the goal of winning a round?
Post-Game Talk: #54| New Jersey Devils @ New York Islanders | April 6th | 7:00 PM | F/ L 2-1
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So you mean to tell me teams send off 1st round picks with the goal of winning a round?
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Even to make the playoffs (or try to). The Cup thing is a bunch of rah, rah, stuff.
The Isles made the trade to cover for an injury, but also add depth and scoring for a playoff run.
It's almost as if there results between winning one round and winning the cup.
The first was traded to improve the team's chances of going deep in the playoffs. It may not result in a cup this year, but the more chances the GM gives the team of going deep, the more likely they are to win a cup.
Also, the more you win in the playoffs, the more likely you are to attract players that care about winning.
Do you get the feeling that as these games meant not all that much except for home ice advantage in the playoff, the players are just playing to not get hurt? Also when you get an UFA there is always risk that he may not go all out just to ensure that they are healthy enough at the end of season to be able to get resigned? I have seen that before when other UFA players not give it all in the playoff because their mind is more on the contract than winning a cup. Hall's case is a bit different as he had a real bad regular season before he got traded, he need to produce so he can get the team he really want to resign to hand him a good contract. He also played that way all his life, never worry about getting hurt. I knew that he would be super motivated even before the trade.
Also I just think that though Barzy has to play his game a bit different as he still trying to hang on to the puck a bit too long sometimes and end up losing possession. He definitely would benefit play with players who has great ability to find themselves open in the offensive zone. However Barry's defensive system does not call for that kind of quick transition unless the D can keep threading home run passes to the forwards. He and his line mates has to use his common sense better. At times they need to stick to the system but at other times if they sense open ice and goal scoring opportunities they have to just got to go for it. Also please stop shooting into the goalies and get the shot off quicker. Goalies only have so much time to react so the more time you let them response to your shot the less chance you may score on them.
Also I do not think the forwards should try to go through 2 or 3 defenders at the same time unless they can fly and force the D to back up. They need to do co-ordinated attack better and spread themselves apart to get more open ice and better chance to get around the D.
Also I just think that though Barzy has to play his game a bit different as he still trying to hang on to the puck a bit too long sometimes and end up losing possession. He definitely would benefit play with players who has great ability to find themselves open in the offensive zone. However Barry's defensive system does not call for that kind of quick transition unless the D can keep threading home run passes to the forwards. He and his line mates has to use his common sense better. At times they need to stick to the system but at other times if they sense open ice and goal scoring opportunities they have to just got to go for it. Also please stop shooting into the goalies and get the shot off quicker. Goalies only have so much time to react so the more time you let them response to your shot the less chance you may score on them.
Also I do not think the forwards should try to go through 2 or 3 defenders at the same time unless they can fly and force the D to back up. They need to do co-ordinated attack better and spread themselves apart to get more open ice and better chance to get around the D.
I think Cizikas need one game off and need to relax a bit before the playoff. The type of game he played can take quite a toll physically. He needs to be fresh before the playoff start. I would also rest Leddy too.
well..the day after the game standings update, if we had won out (not that playing like crap is ever a good thing).....
we are in third, tied with the caps - lose in ROW - Cap have game in hand
two ahead of Boston with Boston having a game in hand.
we are in third, tied with the caps - lose in ROW - Cap have game in hand
two ahead of Boston with Boston having a game in hand.
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A rental is all we were in position to do at the TDL. When Lee comes off LTIR we are committed to his salary as well as the contracts of Eberle, Bailey, Nelson, Pageau, Komarov. Plus having to get ready to sign Pelech, Beauvillier and Cizikas this summer.
Should we lose one of the forwards I mentioned above to expansion then signing Palmieri is something we can go ahead with. Otherwise we would lose the #19 pick (as it stands today) in the first round for a guy we let walk. That would sting but not be a crusher.
Mat Barzal is one of the most frustrating players on our roster. He is not an elite player. I wouldn't rank him as one of the top 10 centers in the league. But he has some elite tools that should make him more productive than 15G-26A-41P. He has an above average shot and he might be one of the top 2 skaters in the league. Unfortunately he is still too undisciplined in his approach to the game. Come contract time that may end up costing him, especially if we have a couple of early playoff exits where Barzal is underperforming. I also agree that I could see Lou move on from Barzal before he has to commit big money to him for not enough of a return. If that happens watch the knives come out on this board.
As long as Mat Barzal appears to be more in love with seam passes, drop passes, pulling the string on a goalie, blowing opponents tires, than moving straight ahead with the puck he will always underperform. Let him find a 3 on 3 league to make pretty plays.
Oh yeah, Barzal in 3 on 3 OTs looks great at eating the clock and not much else. All sizzle no steak.
Very hard to disagree with that, he really could be a far better player.
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Teams judiciously spend assets in order to put them in a position to give themselves a chance. It's not all or nothing.
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Lee getting hurt throws it off and they just haven’t found it yet since for the most part. This season also is a grind more than any regular season as the divisional setup essentially made all 56 games meaningful. I think they mentally exhaled after clinching, tried to win a game in Buffalo Monday at 50 percent and almost did and once they lost that game the last two have been treated like preseason. I do think they will be ready for Game 1 next week and let’s hope the mental and physical break for some players and next weeks three or four days will help.
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GrandmaSlices51631
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I don't see why we double down on Palmieri. If we've already lost a 19th OA, why commit precious cap space and years to a guy who is on an eerily similar trajectory to Andrew Ladd? Look at their stat lines and drop off. Committing to Palmieri is a mistake, especially given his play as an Islander.
So much can change between now and then, but I see Palmieri as redundant. He's doesn't bring something unique to this team at all. It was evident this team needed a spark plug, if he was the answer we would've known it by now.
Signing him IF Seattle takes one of the forwards you mentioned is a lateral move at best. There are other UFA options out there , including veteran players that maybe interested in a one or 2 year deal.
Some of the UFAs worth mentioning are Schwartz (LW), Tatar (LW), Granlund (C/LW) , Johansson (C/LW) Staal (C). With a full off-season ahead of us, I think the organization needs to look to sign someone with a strong will to compete AND smarts. The forward group as constructed is not getting it done.
GrandmaSlices51631
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To compete for the cup. Every player & coach says this , the goal is "the cup" .
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If the team wins 2 playoff rounds, do coaches say that the season was a complete and utter failure, or that the team should have sold off all their players because they didn't win the Cup?
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And every parent says their kid is smart...
