50 Goals vs 100 Points

[Luigi Lemieux]

I'll take the 100 point scorer even if the 50 goal scorer is more rare. 100 point scorers tend to be more versatile whereas the 50 goal guy is more one dimensional. Guys like Crosby/Malkin were scoring 100+ points from 07-14 while Gaborik/Stamkos/Perry/Kovalchuk were scoring 50 goals. The 100+ point guys are typically the better players.

 

[txpd]

Crosby fan. 100 pts. Ovechkin fan. 50 goals. There are more Crosby fans. So the answer is 100pts

 

[hockey4sale]

I mean if you are building a team then you should pick 100pts center over 50g winger. But in my opinion scoring 50g takes very special type of talent that is more rare.

Look right now there is only one, just one player in the entire world who can consistently score 50g but there are probably ~10 players who can put up 100pts

 

[txpd]

I'll take the 100 point scorer even if the 50 goal scorer is more rare. 100 point scorers tend to be more versatile whereas the 50 goal guy is more one dimensional. Guys like Crosby/Malkin were scoring 100+ points from 07-14 while Gaborik/Stamkos/Perry/Kovalchuk were scoring 50 goals. The 100+ point guys are typically the better players.

Tend to me more one dimensional?? That is in your head. Simple question. You are your team's primary shooter. When your team needs a goal is your job to shoot it or to pass it? If you pass it, you are less one dimensional. If you shoot it, you are doing your job. You are an idiot if you think Ovechkin is one dimensional.

Example. On the power play the entire structure is set up for him to shoot. The other players are there to pass him the puck and retrieve his shots. Nobody on the Caps is in a position to deflect his shots or score his rebounds or even shoot off his passes. Yet, you stick the one dimensional tag on him and players like him.

Is Nicklas Backstrom one dimensional because he is on the other side of that equation??

 

[alexgreeen]

50 goals

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Tend to me more one dimensional?? That is in your head. Simple question. You are your team's primary shooter. When your team needs a goal is your job to shoot it or to pass it? If you pass it, you are less one dimensional. If you shoot it, you are doing your job. You are an idiot if you think Ovechkin is one dimensional.

Example. On the power play the entire structure is set up for him to shoot. The other players are there to pass him the puck and retrieve his shots. Nobody on the Caps is in a position to deflect his shots or score his rebounds or even shoot off his passes. Yet, you stick the one dimensional tag on him and players like him.

Is Nicklas Backstrom one dimensional because he is on the other side of that equation??

Sheesh so defensive. Don't worry I'm not talking about Ovechkin. He's shown he can do both the 100 points and 50 goals.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Would depend a bit on the overall points that accompany the 50 goals. If it's like 50 G / 30 A, then I'd think 100 points would be more important. But if we're looking at 90+ points in total, then the 50 G mark rather than 100 points.

 

[txpd]

Sheesh so defensive. Don't worry I'm not talking about Ovechkin. He's shown he can do both the 100 points and 50 goals.

Not defensive at all. I used Ovechkin because he is the top example of this issue. There will probably be just the one 50 goal scorer this season which is often the case with Ovechkin. My point though, goes to any player who is a team's first shooting option. 30 goal 70 assist players are not one dimension while a 50g 30a player is?

Please note that I am not arguing one being better than others. I am simply saying its unfair to say that shooter is one dimensional because he is the shooter.

 

[ScaredStreit]

0 goals and 100 assists is much better than 50 goals and 0 assists.

 

[Albi34]

I think there needs to be more context..the 50 goal scorer could also be a 99 point scorer, or a 50 point scorer. thats a massive difference.
But with all we know here: 100 point scorer = 100 goals generated. 50 goal scorer = 50 goals generated. I'll go for the 100 points.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Goals are not valued as much as they should be in the NHL. Honestly though I would vote even and I don't care if someone thinks that's a cop out. Gun to my head though it's goals and the example is this year: There are multiple 100 points scorers and only likely to be 1 guy that gets 50+ goals, let that sink in. Also, NO ONE had 50 goals last year. Objectively it's harder to get 50 goals than 100 points.

 

[Midnight Judges]

But with all we know here: 100 point scorer = 100 goals generated. 50 goal scorer = 50 goals generated. I'll go for the 100 points.

Uh, I don't know that.

There are all sorts of times when a guy gets an assist for making a mundane pass, and sometimes even failing to complete a mundane pass but merely being one the last guys to touch the puck.

Same can be said for when a player has a goal bounced off their arse, but nobody ever gets to 50 goals that way.

 

[Paper]

Crosby fan. 100 pts. Ovechkin fan. 50 goals. There are more Crosby fans. So the answer is 100pts

I'm a Crosby fan voting for 50 goals. It's rarer, and therefore the bigger accomplishment.

281 times the century mark has been broken. 195 times 50 goals have been scored.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

50 goals = $$

 

[Albi34]

Uh, I don't know that.

There are all sorts of times when a guy gets an assist for making a mundane pass, and sometimes even failing to complete a mundane pass but merely being one the last guys to touch the puck.

Same can be said for when a player has a goal bounced off their arse, but nobody ever gets to 50 goals that way.

I don't really disagree. Just using it as an example as to why we need more context. certainly you would take a 30 goal, 70 assist point player over a 50 goal 10 assist player?

 

[Taluss]

Easy 50 goals

 

[boredmale]

I would need to know how many points the 50 goal scorer gets. If it's 85+ I would consider taking the goal scorer but if it's under 85 give me the 100 point player

 

[McFlash97]

My man Drai about to hit both ....

 

[McFlash97]

I'll take the 100 point scorer even if the 50 goal scorer is more rare. 100 point scorers tend to be more versatile whereas the 50 goal guy is more one dimensional. Guys like Crosby/Malkin were scoring 100+ points from 07-14 while Gaborik/Stamkos/Perry/Kovalchuk were scoring 50 goals. The 100+ point guys are typically the better players.

How is Crosby the Poster boy for 100 point scorers when he has a grand total of 1 more 100 point season then OV ?

 

[Fataldogg]

50 goals.

Look at the leader boards. How many players can score 50 goals? How many can score 100 points?

50 goals is a bigger achievement.

 

[ViD]

In the last 6 seasons (13/14-18/19) there have been 4 50 goal seasons, all by OV. There have been 11 100pt seasons by 7 different players.

Answer is easily 50 goals.

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[KirkAlbuquerque]

Fiddy

 

[SupremeNachos]

50g - 50pts
100pts - Mix

 

[tucker3434]

Depends. 50g is harder but I’d take a 40-60 guy over a 50-30 guy any day of the week.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I mean if you are building a team then you should pick 100pts center over 50g winger. But in my opinion scoring 50g takes very special type of talent that is more rare.

Look right now there is only one, just one player in the entire world who can consistently score 50g but there are probably ~10 players who can put up 100pts

You also have to be willing to take at least 200 more shots a year than others. Not counting the ones that dont hit the net and bounce off the boards and back down the ice.