50 For Draisaitl

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

He got 40 in his first year, hasn't hit it since, he's a one and done so far. Who know what would happen if he was healthy or not. Pure speculation. Leon on the other hand has got 50 and been in top 10 in scoring 2 of last 3 years. Have to check but not sure if Matthews has ever been inside top 30. Two straight years at 41st and 42nd in the league. I think we know by now what kind of player he is.

Thats not a knock AM, he's a fine player in his own right. Just not on that level.

I think Matthews will figure out a way to stay healthier and start putting up 40-50 goals somewhat consistently but I doubt he ever has a season that matches or exceeds what Drai did statistically this season. He just isn't a good enough playmaker to hit 100 points other than maybe in a career year where everything goes right.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

How are the Oilers not making playoff runs? Ugh with that team.

If you believe NHLE numbers have any value, at one point fairly late in the season if you swapped out the bottom 9 Oiler forwards with the top 9 Condors forwards (this was before Currie and Gambardella were recalled) the Oilers would have roughly seen an improvement of 25 goals.

I’d still have kept Chiasson and Kassian but most of the Oiler forwards would have been smacked around by a good AHL team.

 

[ottawa]

I wonder how many points McDavid contributed to.

edit: the answer is 67 points...and before it gets said, no Draisaitl wasn't the one who carried McDavid.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Maybe he is better but Karlsson went from 25 points to 78 in 1 season, and his point totals were down by 22 points the following season.

okay and if Drai falls back down he is still a 75+ point player.

 

[ijuka]

relatively speaking. A player at 77 isn't jumping to 130 points.

I think you need to go find out what "relatively" means.

 

[ottawa]

Tavares 35 goals without Marner.
Ovechkin 35 goals without Kuznetzov.
Skinner 25 goals without Eichel.
Kari Kurri 40 goals without Gretzky
Bobby Hull 40 goals without Mikita.

Not sure the point is?
Playing with a playmaker helps with goal-scoring. Not breaking news

Any reason you didn't include Draisaitl in this?

He scored 21 goals without McDavid collecting an assist on it.
He scored 9 goals without McDavid on the ice.

McDavid also shared a scoreline with 64% of Draisaitl's points this season (67/105 points)

These stats are very surprising. Draisaitl certainly owes a large part of his success (and salary) to McDavid.

 

[Steven Toast]

It tickles me to see all these comments talking about how Draisaitl is overrated.

 

[McNuge]

Any reason you didn't include Draisaitl in this?

He scored 21 goals without McDavid collecting an assist on it.
He scored 9 goals without McDavid on the ice.

McDavid also shared a scoreline with 64% of Draisaitl's points this season (67/105 points)

These stats are very surprising. Draisaitl certainly owes a large part of his success (and salary) to McDavid.

Link to this? I am curious about some other players.

 

[ottawa]

Link to this? I am curious about some other players.

Hockey-reference. I went to his scoring log and simply counted which goals McDavid assisted him on (Control + F McDavid to highlight his name, makes it easier).

Then I looked into Draisaitl's 21 lone goals without McDavid and did a quick check on whether or not he was on the ice by checking the boxscore.

 

[McNuge]

Hockey-reference. I went to his scoring log and simply counted which goals McDavid assisted him on (Control + F McDavid to highlight his name, makes it easier).

Then I looked into Draisaitl's 21 lone goals without McDavid and did a quick check on whether or not he was on the ice by checking the boxscore.

Thanks

 

[Del Preston]

Any reason you didn't include Draisaitl in this?

He scored 21 goals without McDavid collecting an assist on it.
He scored 9 goals without McDavid on the ice.

McDavid also shared a scoreline with 64% of Draisaitl's points this season (67/105 points)

These stats are very surprising. Draisaitl certainly owes a large part of his success (and salary) to McDavid.

Yawn.

McDavid scored 18 goals without Draisaitl collecting an assist on it.
McDavid scored 8 goals without Draisaitl on the ice.

Draisaitl also shared a scoreline with 58% of McDavid's points this season (67/116 points)

 

[Golden Puppers]

Any reason you didn't include Draisaitl in this?

He scored 21 goals without McDavid collecting an assist on it.
He scored 9 goals without McDavid on the ice.

McDavid also shared a scoreline with 64% of Draisaitl's points this season (67/105 points)

These stats are very surprising. Draisaitl certainly owes a large part of his success (and salary) to McDavid.

Yawn.

McDavid scored 18 goals without Draisaitl collecting an assist on it.
McDavid scored 8 goals without Draisaitl on the ice.

Draisaitl also shared a scoreline with 58% of McDavid's points this season (67/116 points)

So what you're saying is 2 elite players share most of their ice time together and both contributed a lot on each other's goals/points...?!

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So what you're saying is 2 elite players share most of their ice time together and both contributed a lot on each other's goals/points...?!

For some reason I find that meme funnier the worse the picture is

 

[780il]

Yawn.

McDavid scored 18 goals without Draisaitl collecting an assist on it.
McDavid scored 8 goals without Draisaitl on the ice.

Draisaitl also shared a scoreline with 58% of McDavid's points this season (67/116 points)

What a plug...

 

[yababy]

Hockey-reference. I went to his scoring log and simply counted which goals McDavid assisted him on (Control + F McDavid to highlight his name, makes it easier).

Then I looked into Draisaitl's 21 lone goals without McDavid and did a quick check on whether or not he was on the ice by checking the boxscore.

how can you get that from a boxscore?
I think you made a huge leap of assumption here.

 

[KevinRedkey]

50/100 has only been done 11 times in the cap era:
Ovechkin (x4)
Heatley (x2)
Jagr
Crosby
Malkin
Lecavalier
Draisaitl

 

[Beerfish]

Any reason you didn't include Draisaitl in this?

He scored 21 goals without McDavid collecting an assist on it.
He scored 9 goals without McDavid on the ice.

McDavid also shared a scoreline with 64% of Draisaitl's points this season (67/105 points)

These stats are very surprising. Draisaitl certainly owes a large part of his success (and salary) to McDavid.

How much of mcdavids salary does he owe to Draisiatl?

How much of kurris salary belongs to gretzky?

Bossy/ trottier?

Since mcdavid is probably the best player in the league you can make the same argument you just made with any player in the league if he played with mcdavid.

 

[Yasuo]

Draisaitl> Matthews

 

[Mr Positive]

we definitely got to fix this team so that these two amazing players of ours can be in the playoffs. It must happen!

 

[ottawa]

how can you get that from a boxscore?
I think you made a huge leap of assumption here.

Not at all

 

[iCanada]

L50N

 

[Saltcreek]

Any reason you didn't include Draisaitl in this?

He scored 21 goals without McDavid collecting an assist on it.
He scored 9 goals without McDavid on the ice.

McDavid also shared a scoreline with 64% of Draisaitl's points this season (67/105 points)

These stats are very surprising. Draisaitl certainly owes a large part of his success (and salary) to McDavid.

Dumbest post of the day award goes to you. You find it surprising that 2 highly skilled players benefit from playing with each other? Does Draisaitl have to go end to end every goal?

 

[ottawa]

Dumbest post of the day award goes to you. You find it surprising that 2 highly skilled players benefit from playing with each other? Does Draisaitl have to go end to end every goal?

Of course not, but it shows he struggles to produce without McDavid on the ice.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Of course not, but it shows he struggles to produce without McDavid on the ice.

His two linemates away from McDavid were Reider (ZERO GOALS), and Lucic (WORST NHLER)

You should see what McDavids statline is away from Draisaitl and Nuge.


The Oilers are a tire-fire.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Of course not, but it shows he struggles to produce without McDavid on the ice.

McDavid struggled to produce without Draisaitl this year. I guess that means McDavid is trash too.