#43 wake up or trade him before 2020 season

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  1. Menzinger

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    A better debate for the final year of his contract.
     
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    The reality is that no one has that kind of depth. No one. I'm not even one advocating to trade him, but it is not even allowable to say he's not playing well.
     
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    Yup. He's fine.
     
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    CelticDruid Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau

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    Zaitsev played one of his better games until he failed to box out Armia and then flipped the puck out of play.

    This might be a bit harsh , but I think we have played about 8 complete games this year-still waiting for all to be on board at the same time.
     
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    Your last sentence is difficult to understand.
     
  6. Wafflewhipper

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    I agree. The top six rated players playing in the top 6 spots on lines 1 and 2 would alleviate some consistency problems, but I digress;)
     
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    Probably. lol

    I was saying that I don't advocate trading him, but people should be allowed to point out when Kadri isn't playing particularly well. Because here on this board, it's an absolute no-no to say that.
     
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    This teams whole problem is they play like runway models seconds before they are up. Serious lack of testosterone. Coaches should call it out but lets face it, Rogers Bell MLSE all pretty much signalled we dont believe in rough play.
     
  9. Pookie

    Pookie It was a pleasure doing business with you

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    Which means that if we have to move $$$’s Kadri’s (declining) play really isn’t worth discussing. We may need to shave millions.

    Target meet back.
     
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  10. Pookie

    Pookie It was a pleasure doing business with you

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    What if we introduced you to salary cap 2019-2020?
     
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    Fair enough.

    He's had to take a step back to make room for Marner, Tavares and Matthews. That can't be easy.

    I think, considering the changes, he's been fine - albeit snake bitten.
     
  12. Wafflewhipper

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    Well i would introduce Rosen and Sandin
    I see plenty of options to meet the cap and keep everyone we want. Be up against the cap is perfectly acceptable for a single season i believe.
     
  13. jrgtml67

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    I dont get how so many dont see it. Hes had an issue scoring that's one. Two he kills our 1st PP unit, hes the guy who's supposed to be hard on the puck and bump it to Auston or Morgan. Many I've read in other threads agree, and are saying take him off that unit.

    Also noticed ..because he is having a hard time scoring, he hugs the puck instead of finding a wide open brown or nylander.

    I'm not saying he sucks, but saying he isnt playing as he should. Hes most effective when he plays like Marchand. Pesky, hits, gets under guys skin..hes not doing that. He used to be the best leaf at drawing penalties and I cant even remember the last time he did.

    Is there a better option? Not right now. I'm just frustrated with his play. The point was always that if he played like he has in the past it's free up JT or AM line, only once in the last several weeks did he do that. The night Nylander scored first (not last night) brown even got one, he didnt though.

    In summary, hes a good player, but needs to pick it up that's all
     
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    Leafs87 Mr. Steal Your Job

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    Can’t say this hasn’t crossed my mind. Seems like he got even more disengaged after the Nylander contract. Now he looks at Matthews and sees someone who makes 7.1 million more. It takes a toll on players I think.

    Trading him is still stupid though
     
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  15. ORRFForever

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    We all agree with that.
     
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    Kadri may be having an off year but he does all the little things right. He plays a 200 foot game. It would be nice to see him get a goal though every once in a while.

    He has to be the most hot and cold player. When he gets going hes good than he disappears off the score sheet for the longest time. At least now the pressure is off him because JT and Matthews are doing the work so he doesnt have to worry as much.
     
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    Points is not a great way to measure Kadri effectiveness because he is so hot and cold.

    Also, he has been asked to change his role on the team - which couldn't have been easy. He deserves a lot of credit for taking the lesser role without whining and complained while still working his *** off.
     
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    We don't need that player because we already gave that player. Main board, you me the Leaf hater board. Be genuine please, don't try being clever. Main board haha thats funny Sh!t right there.
     
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    Not to sound negative, but why should he be commended for something that he is being paid handsomely to do? It happens all the time.
     
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    I'm curious, how old are you?
     
  21. Pookie

    Pookie It was a pleasure doing business with you

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    Up against is fine. Over is not.

    There are a few options. I think I outlined them ;)

    Kadri being moved, regardless of play, is one of them.
     
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    It's a valid question so I didn't take it as negative.

    A lot of players don't handle it well. They demand to be traded or sulk. He hasn't. I give him credit.
     
  23. Pookie

    Pookie It was a pleasure doing business with you

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    For the grit argument, let's acknowledge that outside of Muzzin, Kadri is about all that we offer in terms of grit.

    But let's also acknowledge that the grit on offer, has been on sale for awhile now.

    He misses Komarov and probably the backing of Martin:

    SeasonHits/Game
    2015-161.95
    2016-171.51
    2017-18 w Leo1.40
    2017-18 w Marner0.87
    2018-190.98
     
  24. kb

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    You should be asking the other person that question. And I will say I'm not young.

    EDIT: I was alive the last time the Leafs won the cup. But too young to remember it.
     
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    I'm glad too. He can be a huge cog in this. I was hoping he would be feasting on 3rd/4th line matchups. Hasn't happened yet, but there is still time.
     

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