Striiker
Former Flyers Fan
Oh, it's not fair to call players 3rd liners when they're clearly and indisputably 1st liners?Fair comparison.
OK, I'll keep that in mind.
Oh, it's not fair to call players 3rd liners when they're clearly and indisputably 1st liners?Fair comparison.
They need to just fire these guys. They’re too used to being allowed to be complacent with horrible results.
Agreed! On the wrong side of his career.Yep, similar surgery... core issues. It would not surprise me if he bounced back next year, but I dont want the Flyers to be the team to pay him ~$6m or so for 4 years to find out. As great a player as he has been.
Those two belong in the same conversation. Totally agree.Oh, it's not fair to call players 3rd liners when they're clearly and indisputably 1st liners?
OK, I'll keep that in mind.
Huh? Nobody compared them other than the fact that they're both top line players.Those two belong in the same conversation. Totally agree.
Obvious? A chosen selection of even strength points over a particular stretch is obvious?Because I'm not going to do research for someone every time something that should be obvious is challenged.
I only did it this time because I was curious myself about what exactly his even strength production looked like. I knew it was good but this is even better than I thought.
Guess you can throw josh Bailey into the conversation. Too funny.Huh? Nobody compared them other than the fact that they're both top line players.
Yeah, I’d definitely say TKs performance since being put on the top line makes it pretty obvious.Obvious? A chosen selection of even strength points over a particular stretch is obvious?
Anyways. You could have just said "he's been scoring a ton lately despite his bad season" or something. And reminded me.
You have to admit he does look like a kid who's not ready for 1st line minutes all this season. And it's a little worrying. And we have Ghost and ****ing Provy to worry about and everything else. It's been a genuinely disconcerting year.
Lindblom - Giroux - TK
Laughton- Couturier - Voracek
JVR - Patrick - Raffl
Weise- Varone/Weal - Simmonds
We have a serious problem where we have too many wingers that are minuses defensively. JVR, Voracek, and Simmonds need to be protected, or at least be the worst defensive forward on their line. I don't think you have any combination of those three on the same line and not get shredded. I think you partner up Giroux - TK, Couturier - Voracek, and JVR - Patrick and then shuffle around Lindblom, Laughton, and Raffl to try and find combinations that work.
Lindblom gives the 1st line another player good on the boards and a nice complimentary type player. Laughton gives the 2nd line a shooter, and Raffl gives the 3rd line some additional two-way play.
Do whatever you want with the 4th line because it's going to be bad.
Lindblom - Giroux - TK
Laughton- Couturier - Voracek
JVR - Patrick - Raffl
Weise- Varone/Weal - Simmonds
We have a serious problem where we have too many wingers that are minuses defensively. JVR, Voracek, and Simmonds need to be protected, or at least be the worst defensive forward on their line. I don't think you have any combination of those three on the same line and not get shredded. I think you partner up Giroux - TK, Couturier - Voracek, and JVR - Patrick and then shuffle around Lindblom, Laughton, and Raffl to try and find combinations that work.
Lindblom gives the 1st line another player good on the boards and a nice complimentary type player. Laughton gives the 2nd line a shooter, and Raffl gives the 3rd line some additional two-way play.
Do whatever you want with the 4th line because it's going to be bad.
Jake and HaggThis is a great point.
I wonder what it would take to get Mark Stone. He would be a great fit here I think.
Jake and Hagg
To us, no. To archaic NHL GMs? He absolutely has value.Hagg is not an asset with value.
Id definitely deal Jake for Stone.
This is a great point.
I wonder what it would take to get Mark Stone. He would be a great fit here I think.
I have to agree with you. I think the problem is alot of the players just aren't that good and the prospects that everyone raves about aren't that great.... The obvious problems are Simmonds he is not helpful really anywhere. Vorachek I kinda feel like people expect him to be this game changer and he isn't and never will be. Then Amac is just bad and really needs to not play here. But as for the young guys I don't think they are that great and that's it. Provorov seems average, Ghost good offensive d-man but not a shut down guy. Patrick average, lindblom average, Koneckny fast but average. They don't have a game changer other than Giroux. He really is the only really good hockey player on this team, couts is good but not a guy to carry a team. I think they should really start over. And someone mentioned provorov stick, I find it incredibly annoying he uses such a small stick...I know he is a pro and better than me and all that but it's annoying.That could be an option. They are bums. But the young kids on the team now are highly overrated. TK, lindblom, Patrick aren’t much. Provy and ghost just look average. That’s a good chunk of the team and the so called future. A very bad and small team as constituted.
I see a bunch of villages are looking for their idiots.
"they are in this thread"
Watching him, do you really see a top line player? I just don’t. I love this team as much as the next guy and been watching them a lot longer then most. I respect your opinion. I just don,t see it that’s all.
What’s the main difference in other teams PP ?
I will answer for you, they have their top sniper in Jakes spot. Jake has 3 moves, around the net to G, back to Ghost, or that stupid shot pass thing to Simmer. Him shooting is option 10.