Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by Algernop Kreider, May 10, 2021.
He's 23. I think he has a few years left.
Good chance the ground work for this deal was done by Gorton.
Man, I’m so excited for him. Lindgren wears his heart on his sleeve and has exceeded all expectations. And now he’s being rewarded for it. You love to see it.
Slap the C on him and call it a day
They did also have Hajek, Lindbolm, Gauthier, Rykov, Lemieux, Howden and Lias (There are good looking players you didnt mention Im not ignoring those Im just making a point here)
Like they needed to at least hit on a few. Im not sure hitting on a few when you took that many swings qualifies as unreal. Maybe it does compared to other GMs but idk. I feel like they were maybe average unless some of these guys take a quantum leap in their respective games.
Miller could top out as a 2nd pair dude. Lindgren is real good but he's not a norris candidate.
And the Norris candidate we got literally only wanted to come to us so JG didnt have to really do anything.
I aint trying to shit on it, just saying "It's good but I disagree with the label of "unreal"
idk what he woulda asked for with more years but Im disappointed in only 3 seasons. Plus based on when certain NMCs are up I think we needed it to be 4. I wanted him getting 5 tbh
He may not have been willing to do any more years though without making it crazy expensive so idk.
I think he has some potential on offense as well.
He's an under rated skater and finds himself in a lot of scoring opportunities. I can see him hitting double digits in goals with some work
We were able to get that norris candidate because we had the picks to get it done from previous trades. In addition to Fox, Lindgren, Trouba, and Miller, we have Jones, Lundkvist, Robertson, and Schneider. We are going to have the best young D in the league in a year or 2 mainly because of Gorton's moves.
Having a 2 and 3 is pretty irrelevant to this conversation. I said they didn't really have to do anything. Trading a 2 and a 3 for one of the top prospects in hockey at the time (Who literally would only agree to come here) falls into the category of not really having to do anything. It doesn't matter that they traded to get those specific picks, you are literally given picks as a participation trophy in the NHL. Having a 2 and a 3 available at some point is the participation trophy of GMing not some kind of testament to skill. Not to mention like...yea I'm aware they had picks to trade for the guy they barely needed to trade picks to get. Cool.
Imagine bragging "Our GM is real good. He did x, x and x...oh and he even had a 2 and a 3 once! Why would you bring that up as if it was at all any indication of GM skill?
I literally said there were other players, why are you telling me something I said myself?
This was a weird response lol
I feel like my response might piss you off but it's like idk wtf do you want me to say. It's like you didn't read what I wrote and then started telling me a bunch of stuff that falls into the category of "Well yea...no shit" as some kind of gotcha.
I think this was a great signing by Drury at an outstanding cost. This kid does EVERYTHING for us, defends well, always physical against top opposing forwards, stands up for his teammates, and like it or not has continued to work on his all around game. He continued to be a stalwart on the defensive side while seeming to try to add offense. I love Lindgren and 3m for a top 4 dman is outstanding value
Why not? Believe it or not Lindgren could easily have gotten 4-5m on the open market this year. He is also looking to add offense it seems with how is play has evolved and his constant work ethic. If we can get Lindgren at 5m at his next contract i think will be a good deal for both sides.
Lindgren at 5M on his next deal, which could be long term, will almost definitely end up very poorly
I was just stating facts. You seemed to be highlighting Gorton's bad moves and downplaying what he did well. Gorton negotiated the trade for Fox right? I know he had leverage but giving up a second and third is still pretty decent for a potential norris candidate. One of the best Ranger trades ever, along with the Nash trade that netted Strome, Miller, and Lindgren and Mika for Brassard trade, all of them involving Gorton.
He is 23 yo and will be 26 when he is due for a next contract. He has only gotten better every year and has been adding offense. If you think he wont be worth 5m per for like 4 years on his next contract then im really glad youre not the gm. Lindgren is easily a top 4 defenseman on most teams and you are undervaluing him.
This is not marc staal or dan girardi at 32 years old with a beaten and run down body bc of Torts. Get your shit together
If it were up to him no one on this team would be older than 23.
Thank you for explaining that foolishness
Lindgren looks like someone who is going to age well to you? A guy who plays very physical and is constantly getting beat up? There is no chance I am ever giving him a deal longer than 2-3 years. I do not think he will be worth 5M for 4 years either. The history of moderately expensive long term deals for pure defensive defenseman is not very good. He's not adding offense either. He's playing with Adam Fox which boosts his numbers. He had 5 primary points all year.
How is this true? I think they should re-sign Zibanejad. He will be 29. I would also like to re-sign Buchnevich however unfortunately I don't think it makes sense given the teams current cap structure and wing depth. Older players generally provide great value on short term deals too because they go undervalued because nobody wants them because they are old (Like Spezza for example - not that he was willing to come here).
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