Proposal: 3 Way Trade (Sabres-Wild-Habs)
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Old Navy Goat
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Well for a stop gap Stepan could come cheap for a year to give Cozens time. Could see about Tierny in Ottawa. Need to see who is up against the cap and might need to move a player
ole ole
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Djp
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1 he’s small size
2 I don’t think he can play center
3 he’s 2 yrs from a UFA and up for arbitration for space buffalo needs to free up.
4 his trade value is around a late 1st+ or used in a pure player trade. You don’t trade a top 10 for him.
Give buffalo has Cozens and possibly another C from 8OA does buffalo want yo block them by signing Domi to a long high contract.
You have to assume Cozens plays next year so by 21/22 season he could be a solid 2C.
Habs Halifax
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Merrrlin
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I can certainly see why the Habs would do this, but I am struggling to get it for the other two teams.
Habs Halifax
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I don't get some mtl fans want to trade Domi, he's a good feisty player with sick mitts and he wears his heart on his sleeve. And he loves playing in mtl. If Bergevin can re-sign him for 6-7M, and he averages 60 points per year, that's good value. Rather trade Drouin and Tatar imo
Drouin and tatar won't get Montreal Dumba or Brodin much less poehling & 2nd round pick for Dumba is a joke.
Montreal fans are disrespecting other teams players
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Habs Halifax
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We don't really want to trade him but it comes down to this..
- Does he cry like a baby when we want to play him on Suzuki's wing.
- What does he want for his next contract.
- Domi can return a very good LD. Tatar as a pending UFA and the under performing Drouin won't.
Domi is likely not going to be traded. Unless we get a deal we can't refuse
Habs Halifax
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Stop grouping Habs fans into one opinion. I'm sure Wild fans wouldn't like it if we group them into what you think
Dr Jan Itor
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Stop grouping Habs fans into one opinion. I'm sure Wild fans wouldn't like it if we group them into what you think
Yup.
Habs Halifax
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Best post of the day by far. He needs to chill cause he is a hypocrite and way to controversial. Attacking an entire fan base on some peoples opinions should be considered flaming on HF boards. Way too many posters like that. I guess people getting along is too boring
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He's a ~50-point winger playing center player who's being overvalued because of his career year in 18-19.
ole ole
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50 pt winger my ass.
He's a career .66 ppg player so far in his career which = average 55 pts.
Funny how some try to lower his average,
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It's 5 points, why are you so offended? Apart from the slight variation in his number, his point stands.
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I don't think he did it intentionally to offend anyone. I think he just estimated quickly. We should ask him though.
Old Navy Goat
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You remove his outlier year and he produces at exactly 50pts. I enjoy watching Domi but he's a 2nd liner that'll want to be paid off his outlier season, barring a team caving to his demands I can see him going to arbitration to ride out his final 2 years in the hope that more money shakes loose when the world normalizes.
Since you care so much about accuracy .66 ppg = 54 pt average and considering the post you quoted said Domi was a “~50-point winger” (the tilde means approximate, if you didn’t know) I think that’s pretty accurate and hardly worth commenting on unless you’re just looking for any excuse to get triggered.
Old Navy Goat
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Its different if he was on an upward trajectory vice every year being eerily similar except for one. Now if he had one year in Montreal that produced the career year you can argue the change of scenary, when he drops back to points norm albeit with higher goals, you can say fluke. Especially when said player's agent will point to the outlier year as his 'norm' vice the typical ~50pts
Intangir
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The whole debate about production tied to value that I've seen here is flawed, the rationale for it is flimsy at best. What Domi has done in the past is an indicator of past performance, hints at his future performance in good part too, but his ceiling as a player isn't completely beholden to his previous stats, the same as each and every active sportsman.
Though it isn't the likeliest outcome by far, it is entirely conceivable that Domi could somehow find another level to his game and explode offensively for the next few years ala Marchand. It is also possible that he loses a step, grows soft, gets injured in some way, stops competing, etc., and falls off a cliff performance-wise until he isn't even a decent NHLer anymore, like what happened to Alzner.
In a nutshell, labelling a player as a ''30 goal-scorer'', ''50 point center'', ''PPG player'' and earmarking the value of that player by only that aspect, as some have done in this thread, is just disingenuous. You have to look at all of a player's facets, not just the stats. From there you can more or less gauge if you'd trade package X for Domi or not, it's not my place to interfere with your own internal evaluation process, just saying that Domi is much more than a 50-point forward, in good and ill.
Personally, I consider Domi a good secondary offensive producer, a guy that's feisty, skilled, smart on the ice, fast, has an above-average shot, works really well in a top 6, and one that could produce quite a bit of offense if he finds chemistry with teammates that afford him more space to move. Inversely, I don't like the fact that Domi pouted last year playing wing, how he was visibly less engaged last year than in '18-'19, his diminutive stature, cocky SOB demeanor off the ice, the fact that he can be a massive hothead, cost us games with jaw-droppingly dumb penalties, and the fact that he is an attention-grabber. Weighing the good and bad, the good massively wins out, obviously.
Thinking about it more, I think I could live with the trade but I'd like for us to keep Domi as I really like him as a player. But I can see that Brodin would help us quite a bit even though he isn't exactly the type of puck-moving LD that we desperately need. I just don't know if the fit is quite as obvious as OP makes it seem.
Though it isn't the likeliest outcome by far, it is entirely conceivable that Domi could somehow find another level to his game and explode offensively for the next few years ala Marchand. It is also possible that he loses a step, grows soft, gets injured in some way, stops competing, etc., and falls off a cliff performance-wise until he isn't even a decent NHLer anymore, like what happened to Alzner.
In a nutshell, labelling a player as a ''30 goal-scorer'', ''50 point center'', ''PPG player'' and earmarking the value of that player by only that aspect, as some have done in this thread, is just disingenuous. You have to look at all of a player's facets, not just the stats. From there you can more or less gauge if you'd trade package X for Domi or not, it's not my place to interfere with your own internal evaluation process, just saying that Domi is much more than a 50-point forward, in good and ill.
Personally, I consider Domi a good secondary offensive producer, a guy that's feisty, skilled, smart on the ice, fast, has an above-average shot, works really well in a top 6, and one that could produce quite a bit of offense if he finds chemistry with teammates that afford him more space to move. Inversely, I don't like the fact that Domi pouted last year playing wing, how he was visibly less engaged last year than in '18-'19, his diminutive stature, cocky SOB demeanor off the ice, the fact that he can be a massive hothead, cost us games with jaw-droppingly dumb penalties, and the fact that he is an attention-grabber. Weighing the good and bad, the good massively wins out, obviously.
Thinking about it more, I think I could live with the trade but I'd like for us to keep Domi as I really like him as a player. But I can see that Brodin would help us quite a bit even though he isn't exactly the type of puck-moving LD that we desperately need. I just don't know if the fit is quite as obvious as OP makes it seem.
