Prospect Info: #3 Overall Pick Discussion - Part 3

[RayP]

Do you guys think as this pre-draft process goes on, the gap narrows between Byram and Turcotte as BPA?

I’m no scout, but I’ve gone from absolutely no doubt the pick is Byram to considering Turcotte.

I’ll be happy with either.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I’m no scout, but I’ve gone from absolutely no doubt the pick is Byram to considering Turcotte.

Turcotte fits a Bowman pick as well as anybody in top 10.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I’m no scout, but I’ve gone from absolutely no doubt the pick is Byram to considering Turcotte.

That’s how I’ve felt recently too. The more I see and read about Turcotte, the more I like him.

 

[RayP]

That’s how I’ve felt recently too. The more I see and read about Turcotte, the more I like him.

I’m worried about the hip issues, but if he was playing great prior to having mono then I’m not going to hold that against him. That’d be stupid.

 

[clydesdale line]

I’m no scout, but I’ve gone from absolutely no doubt the pick is Byram to considering Turcotte.

Join us Ray... there's room...

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Join us Ray... there's room...
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Haha, my favorite gif.

It’s so damn creepy

 

[RayP]

Join us Ray... there's room...
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What the hell is that gif even from?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Maybe instead of debating turcotte versus byram we should be utilizing rooh and get the rags to pass on kakko

 

[AmericanDream]

what Caufield is doing at the U18s is really starting to open up more peoples eyes- kid is DeBrincat 2.0 =- he is going top 10.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

what Caufield is doing at the U18s is really starting to open up more peoples eyes- kid is DeBrincat 2.0 =- he is going top 10.

All I can think about lately is Turcotte and what he can potentially mean to this franchise.

I’m becoming more torn between him and Byram.

 

[AmericanDream]

All I can think about lately is Turcotte and what he can potentially mean to this franchise.

I’m becoming more torn between him and Byram.

and rightfully so, it has been him and Byram since the start of the year as guys in that 3/4 range..that is why I say trading down is pure madness, this opportunity only comes around once a decade..

 

[Cowch]

Well Giants won, Byram didnt get on the score sheet, but his defense is legit. Always seems to be in the right spot, wins puck battles, and seems aggressive while he's out there.

He also drew two penalties, drove guys into the boards every chance he had, and talked a lot of smack all night.

 

[Polar Bear]

Maybe instead of debating turcotte versus byram we should be utilizing rooh and get the rags to pass on kakko

You're going to kill yourself with sadness if you keep trying to make this idea seem possible.

I'd go Byram or Turcotte in your shoes. There is still a good amount of time for someone to truly breakout in that 3rd spot.

 

[saluki]

Man, would it suck to pass on Byram and see him develop into the next Kieth.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Man, would it suck to pass on Byram and see him develop into the next Kieth.

But it would also suck if we passed on Turcotte and he became the next Bergeron.

 

[CT Doug]

Podkolzin

 

[Rooh]

But it would suck even more if we passed on Brett Leason and he becomes the next Gretzky.

 

[DontToewzMeBro]

It would suck much more if we pass on Knight and he becomes Steve Passmore

 

[HawksDub89]

That’s how I’ve felt recently too. The more I see and read about Turcotte, the more I like him.

Same

It’s turning into a Bryan/Turcotte decision for me.

I was more Cozens/Byram a week ago.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

All I can think about lately is Turcotte and what he can potentially mean to this franchise.

I’m becoming more torn between him and Byram.

I don't know about you but I trust whatever decision Bowman and Kelley make. I haven't watched these guys play and have any kind of educated opinion. I was skeptical of the Boqvist pick last year and like many wanted Wahlstrom. Now it seem like Boqvist was the better pick. I wanted Berggren with the Hawks 2nd first rounder last year and Beaudin is looking like a very solid pick while Berggren has done nothing, granted he's been hurt but still. So whoever it is, I'll be excited.

 

[RayP]

We should do this poll again right before the draft, I have a feeling it'll be a lot closer then.

 

[Idionym]

I think the only way you take Turcotte is if he's head and shoulders above Byram in potential due to his injury history. Given that people are saying that Turcotte projects to 1C and Byram 1D, I'd say they project to be about equally as valuable. Byram, to me, then has the edge because he has no injury issues compared to Turcotte.

For those considering Turcotte, what about him makes him seem that much better than Byram that you're willing to overlook his injuries?

 

[crazyhawk]

I think the only way you take Turcotte is if he's head and shoulders above Byram in potential due to his injury history. Given that people are saying that Turcotte projects to 1C and Byram 1D, I'd say they project to be about equally as valuable. Byram, to me, then has the edge because he has no injury issues compared to Turcotte.

For those considering Turcotte, what about him makes him seem that much better than Byram that you're willing to overlook his injuries?

I'm all for Byram .. the only niggling issue is when I look at our prospects we don't have any elite forwards coming up through the ranks while we have Mitchell, Boqvist, Beaudin etc for D ripening on the vine.
Barrett, Wise, Entwistle etc are all more than likely bottom six players. Kurashev may end up being a top six forward but then again it's not a for sure.
Turcotte is tempting because of that Bergeron comparison or even a Toews replacement which we will be needing in 3 years or so ...

 

[Idionym]

I'm all for Byram .. the only niggling issue is when I look at our prospects we don't have any elite forwards coming up through the ranks while we have Mitchell, Boqvist, Beaudin etc for D ripening on the vine.
Barrett, Wise, Entwistle etc are all more than likely bottom six players. Kurashev may end up being a top six forward but then again it's not a for sure.
Turcotte is tempting because of that Bergeron comparison or even a Toews replacement which we will be needing in 3 years or so ...

I get the premise but I'd say that we have more of a concrete future at F than at D. We already have 2 top-6 guys who are 21/22, one of which is a C. It's also easier to get top 6 forwards IMO. In addition, I think having a strong D-core and dealing a top 4 D for top 6 C makes more sense than doing it the other way around. In addition to that and Turcotte's injury, I'm not sure if he's the way to go.

 

[AmericanDream]

as awesome as this pick is to have, the amount of pressure on it has to be massive for Kelley and Bowman. #3 is one of the trickier picks, I don't have fear we won't get a real good player, but overthink this or not think it enough and you could lose out on a HOF player in the very next pick.

Turcotte is showing he is healthy and that was most of our concerns...I still have Byram at #3, but I can easily see it the other way around- Turcotte has been a force most of the year, his injuries/illness is the only thing that has dropped him at all...and when you see something like that you don't want to be the team that doesn't pick the kid based off of this IF he is your BPA..

the more I truly honestly think about it, I do feel Turcotte will be the Hawks pick for a number of reasons. Turcotte gives us a top line center which is something we have lacked since we drafted Toews..hard to pass on that even with my love for Byram as well.

Toews
Strome
Turcotte
Barratt

that can be our top 4 centers in 2 years - Kampf can go to the wing..