Prospect Info: #3 Overall Pick Discussion - Part 3

[No Fun Shogun]

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Prospect Info: - #3 Overall Pick Discussion - Part 2

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[borednow]

So we're all agreed that we're taking Brett Leason, right?

 

[bwana63]

Bouchard was picked at 10 and Boqvist at 8.

Boqvist is not even the best defenseman on his current junior team. Given a redraft, Blackhawks are all over Bouchard.

lulz! Keep the hot takes coming.

 

[JLarucci23]

Gonna watch these U-18s like a hawk and see if there’s anyone worth taking over Byram. Especially guys like Turcotte, Cozens and Dach. Even Zegras as well. Do we know if Podkolzin is playing for the Russians?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Gonna watch these U-18s like a hawk and see if there’s anyone worth taking over Byram. Especially guys like Turcotte, Cozens and Dach. Even Zegras as well. Do we know if Podkolzin is playing for the Russians?

Pod has been confirmed.

Keep an eye on Spiridonov and Sheshin on the Russian roster. At least one of them could end up a Hawk.

 

[pvr]

No. I will do take backs for Manning and Caggiula.

What a dumb trade. Manning. What a joke.

You’re the anti-boxcar. How was he on your board, btw? Interlopers on a board can be so very annoying.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Is it possible for Arizona to release Hayton and then we can draft him 3rd overall? I’m still super bummed, as is Bowman, that we weren’t able to draft him

 

[clydesdale line]

By the way, you guys will draft a forward (Podkolzin) and there will be much crying and gnashing of teeth for all the Chicago/Byram fans.

Hey some of us prefer a forward (in my case... Turcotte )

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Hey some of us prefer a forward (in my case... Turcotte )

i've fallen for Cozen's skating...need to talk self out of it...Turcotte or Byram...Turcotte or Byram...

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Byram is the safest pick Stan can make. If the kid fizzles out nobody will say much about taking him over a forward given most fans are annoyed with the defense group. If he goes forward and Byram is a hit and the forward doesn't pan out or the defense group we have in system doesn't pan out then thats where things could become a pr mess...not to say that stan should care about that but from a job security pov it's low risk to take byram and make the argument we already have high end forwards like toews, kane, strome, cat, saad etc.

 

[clydesdale line]

i've fallen for Cozen's skating...need to talk self out of it...Turcotte or Byram...Turcotte or Byram...

Nothing wrong with Cozens my friend. I like him too. If it makes you feel better, so does @Blue Liner

 

[Crow]

I thought I was the crazy one until I read the last several pages of that last thread.

 

[BK]

Yeah. No chance in hell I pass on Byram. The thought of him and Makar for a decade is not a fun thought.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

Yeah. No chance in hell I pass on Byram. The thought of him and Makar for a decade is not a fun thought.

Agreed. I LOVE the thought of future pairings such as:
Byram/Jokiharju
Beaudin/Boqvist
Whatever we get from Mitchell and Krys would be bonus.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Agreed. I LOVE the thought of future pairings such as:
Byram/Jokiharju
Beaudin/Boqvist
Whatever we get from Mitchell and Krys would be bonus.

I’d go Byram/Boqvist. That’s be our version of a defensive pairing that central teams will hate for the next decade.

 

[HawksDub89]

Byram is the safest pick Stan can make. If the kid fizzles out nobody will say much about taking him over a forward given most fans are annoyed with the defense group. If he goes forward and Byram is a hit and the forward doesn't pan out or the defense group we have in system doesn't pan out then thats where things could become a pr mess...not to say that stan should care about that but from a job security pov it's low risk to take byram and make the argument we already have high end forwards like toews, kane, strome, cat, saad etc.

I actually see both Cozens and Byram as safe picks.

The more I read up and watch video on Cozens the more I like.

Speed, skill and size. Above average defensively. He may never be an 80+ point guy, but if he can be a 60-70 point really good defensive forward? Sign me the f up. You can win with that kinda guy. (Especially in the playoffs)

I still say Byram 1 Cozens 2, but the gap is really close for me.

 

[ColdSteel2]

Something people may not be aware of is that Byram is among the youngest players in this draft. That just speaks even further to his potential. The same was true of Boqvist last year.

 

[Illinihockey]

I actually see both Cozens and Byram as safe picks.

The more I read up and watch video on Cozens the more I like.

Speed, skill and size. Above average defensively. He may never be an 80+ point guy, but if he can be a 60-70 point really good defensive forward? Sign me the f up. You can win with that kinda guy. (Especially in the playoffs)

I still say Byram 1 Cozens 2, but the gap is really close for me.

You aren't looking for a 60 point defensive forward at 3.

 

[HawksDub89]

You aren't looking for a 60 point defensive forward at 3.

I said 60-70 point. But good for you using the lower figure.

Toews has averaged about 70 points a year while playing good/great defense.

Hell Patrice Bergeron has averaged 66 points per.

You can most definitely take a player like that at 3.

 

[BK]

I said 60-70 point. But good for you using the lower figure.

Toews has averaged about 70 points a year while playing good/great defense.

Hell Patrice Bergeron has averaged 66 points per.

You can most definitely take a player like that at 3.

Bergeron and Toews play Selke caliber D not just good.

 

[ChiHawks10]

You aren't looking for a 60 point defensive forward at 3.

Yep, don't want to land a Toews at #3. Those 60-70 point elite defensive forwards are such a waste of roster space.

 

[Illinihockey]

Yep, don't want to land a Toews at #3. Those 60-70 point elite defensive forwards are such a waste of roster space.

If he's going to be the best defender in the league then ok. A 60 point pretty good defender is not what you are looking for. Also the league has changed. There were 55 players this year with 70 or more points. In 11-12 there were 21, in 13-14 and 14-15 there were 19, in 15-16 there were 17. So 60-70 points inst what it used to be.

 

[ChiHawks10]

If he's going to be the best defender in the league then ok. A 60 point pretty good defender is not what you are looking for. Also the league has changed. There were 55 players this year with 70 or more points. In 11-12 there were 21, in 13-14 and 14-15 there were 19, in 15-16 there were 17. So 60-70 points inst what it used to be.

Obviously not at #3. But I doubt you're getting just a "pretty good" 60 point defender at #3 most the time.

 

[HawksDub89]

Bergeron and Toews play Selke caliber D not just good.

Fair enough, let’s say he ends up being that caliber, you take that all day every day.

If there’s a selke caliber forward in this draft it’s most likely Turcotte. His hip issue scares the sh*t out of me though.

 

[CCook37]

Am I the only one who wants the Russian? He oozes Elite potential.