Blue Jays GDT: 2024 v2 | Thu, Apr 25 | @ KC | 2pm ET/11am PT | Berrios vs Ragans

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CabanaBoy5

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Vladdy has to be one of the most frustrating Jays we’ve witnessed. So much potential but his laissez-faire, selfish, immature level of play prevents him from reaching that potential. This team doesn’t score runs, so we have to be focussed defensively. Not Vladdy.
 

MikeK

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This is what happens in today's game. It's all about branding and marketing. The team decided to put all their eggs in Vlads basket and pump up his tires before it was really justified. He's been grossly overhyped by all involved to the point where people expect far more than he's really capable of. He's not a Franchise player or somebody you build around. No freakn' way. I shudder to think about his next contract once his team controlled years are over. He's been overhyped so badly that he's going to get a disgustingly bad contract just because his brand is so large. His casual frat boy attitude is that of losers and not of players who win.
 

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This is what happens in today's game. It's all about branding and marketing. The team decided to put all their eggs in Vlads basket and pump up his tires before it was really justified. He's been grossly overhyped by all involved to the point where people expect far more than he's really capable of. He's not a Franchise player or somebody you build around. No freakn' way. I shudder to think about his next contract once his team controlled years are over. He's been overhyped so badly that he's going to get a disgustingly bad contract just because his brand is so large. His casual frat boy attitude is that of losers and not of players who win.

His talent absolutely justified the hype, unfortunately he is dumb as a bag of hammers and is a spoiled, entitled child who will not put in the work and does not seem to understand the responsibilities that he has to the team and the fans who pay his salary.
 

Estimated_Prophet

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they must have had an angle we didn’t see because that didn’t look definitive
It is unbelievable how often MLB gets these calls wrong but it shouldn't be surprising because the sport has been infected with dogmatic, superstitious apes for a very long time. There is a culture of ignorance that results in misinterpreting evidence that has been bread into and reinforced by generations of ball players that is evident in every corner of the game. This includes video review where confirmation bias and empirical evidence overlap before being run through a filter of truisms that unsurprisingly results in these shockingly stupid outcomes.
 

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He needs to see the bench next game. It's not like his bat is doing anything anyways.

Time to start sending some tough love messages and hopefully it's a kick in the ass.
 

Puckstuff

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Vladdy has been bad, but a guy like Encarnacion didn’t become who he was until 29. You just know he’s going to pull an Encarnacion and blow up for the next team that gets him.

It’s like those lurkers who watch someone at the casino lose 100 times in a row at the slots and then as soon as they leave they come in and on the first pull they win big and leave with almost no investment. There are many teams watching Vlad right now thinking it would be a great time to invest in Vladdy now that the Jays have done all the work developing him.
 

dredeye

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This is what happens in today's game. It's all about branding and marketing. The team decided to put all their eggs in Vlads basket and pump up his tires before it was really justified. He's been grossly overhyped by all involved to the point where people expect far more than he's really capable of. He's not a Franchise player or somebody you build around. No freakn' way. I shudder to think about his next contract once his team controlled years are over. He's been overhyped so badly that he's going to get a disgustingly bad contract just because his brand is so large. His casual frat boy attitude is that of losers and not of players who win.
To be fair. The hype on Vlad was very much warranted. What he did coming up through the minors was something to be very excited about. Vlad/Bo had the makings of an incredible one two punch for the forseable future. His dad being a great expo. It’s the story a franchise should be hyping up. Vlad is the actual problem. Since that first hr derby I feel like he started to regress. How a power hitter can’t hit a ball in the air is beyond me. He’s never had to make adjustments or deal with these kinds of struggles coming up and now that he’s had to he just hasn’t been able to do it.
 

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To be fair. The hype on Vlad was very much warranted. What he did coming up through the minors was something to be very excited about. Vlad/Bo had the makings of an incredible one two punch for the forseable future. His dad being a great expo. It’s the story a franchise should be hyping up. Vlad is the actual problem. Since that first hr derby I feel like he started to regress. How a power hitter can’t hit a ball in the air is beyond me. He’s never had to make adjustments or deal with these kinds of struggles coming up and now that he’s had to he just hasn’t been able to do it.
Teams found the hole(s) and he adjust for awhile then reverts back.
 

Puckstuff

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Ok I thought of a deal.

Once the Angels are out of it (probably by June) trade George Springer + Kiermaier (salary) + good young players and prospects for Trout. I'd prefer to move Horwitz and Biggio but I'd also do Martinez and Barger. Maybe even Manoah.


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We can change the prospects around to make it work. And yes I know this will never happen but it's nice to dream, lol.

1. SS - Bichette
2. 1B - Guerrero
3. RF - Trout
4. DH - Turner
5. CF - Varsho
6. 2B - Martinez
7. C - Jansen
8. LF - Barger
9. 3B - Clement

Schneider, IKF, Kirk
 

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TheMadHatTrick

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With our luck Vladdy will end up signing in Atlanta for cheap once his contract here expires and suddenly become prime Miguel Cabrera.
 

The Nemesis

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It's kind of funny how they're trying to do this "inspiring" story of Addison Barger when it boils down to "his family's rich as hell"

Also his dad sounds like a bit of a smug dick.
 
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MK78

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Wow Flop is nowhere near the pitches.

What happened to his "great eye"?
 

MK78

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Only one run... as long as he settles down. But doesnt look nearly as sharp as before.
 
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