Blue Jays GDT: 2024 v1 |Sun, Apr 7| @NYY | 1:30pm ET/10:30am PT | Francis vs Gil

[red devil]

Nice debut for Pearson with 2 punchouts

 

[VanillaCoke]

It’s also not difficult to understand this is how he has also looked and he’s a really good baseball player, so I’m not sure it’s negatively affected him. If he lost a ton of weight, it may actually have a negative impact on his baseball skills.

You're not sure being significantly overweight, one of the slowest, least fit major leaguers is negatively affecting him?
Getting stronger, fitter, in better shape as a pro athlete may have a worse impact on his baseball skills....?¿

Srsly.
You really believe that or just being contrary to not abandon your incorrect perspective?
C'mon lets not be ridic already, there's little to no excuse for kirk to not be in better shape every year, especially being so young.

 

[red devil]

Vladdy just got under that pitch

 

[Forgotusername]

You're not sure being significantly overweight, one of the slowest, least fit major leaguers is negatively affecting him?
Getting stronger, fitter, in better shape as a pro athlete may have a worse impact on his baseball skills....?¿

Srsly.
You really believe that or just being contrary to not abandon your incorrect perspective?
C'mon lets not be ridic already, there's little to no excuse for kirk to not be in better shape every year, especially being so young.

Umm David Ortiz, Cecil Fielder, Babe Ruth, I'm sure others can add more to that list. Being "in shape" does not impact you being able to put the bat on a ball, will it help in other aspects possibly, but he's a good player regardless of his weight. I mean Stanton looks to be in shape and I don't think anyone wants him.

 

[The Nemesis]

Umm David Ortiz, Cecil Fielder, Babe Ruth, I'm sure others can add more to that list. Being "in shape" does not impact you being able to put the bat on a ball, will it help in other aspects possibly, but he's a good player regardless of his weight. I mean Stanton looks to be in shape and I don't think anyone wants him.

Kirby Puckett, Pablo Sandoval, Prince Fielder, Mo Vaughn, Tony Gwynn


It's also worth pointing out that it's entirely possible Kirk's body defaults to this shape. He may simply be unable to meaningfully lose weight or change his type/shape no matter how hard he tries, or only through methods that would negatively impact his athletic skill (like almost starving himself or going on a diet that lacks sufficient balance of nutrients)

 

[MK78]

Great win. Wasnt looking good for the first 9 batters, but they sure got going!

 

[shaner8989]

I’m impressed. Good start with the bats. Berrios was nasty.

 

[cyris]

Kirby Puckett, Pablo Sandoval, Prince Fielder, Mo Vaughn, Tony Gwynn


It's also worth pointing out that it's entirely possible Kirk's body defaults to this shape. He may simply be unable to meaningfully lose weight or change his type/shape no matter how hard he tries, or only through methods that would negatively impact his athletic skill (like almost starving himself or going on a diet that lacks sufficient balance of nutrients)

He is the exact type of player team like Tampa look for. Guys with talent who people dismiss and overlook for flawed reasons.

 

[MikeK]

Berrios was great today. He had great command of his breaking balls. He was throwing nasty pitches out there. Great game.

 

[MK78]

Berrios was great today. He had great command of his breaking balls. He was throwing nasty pitches out there. Great game.

Indeed, he didnt get rattled at all from that leadoff homer.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Umm David Ortiz, Cecil Fielder, Babe Ruth, I'm sure others can add more to that list. Being "in shape" does not impact you being able to put the bat on a ball, will it help in other aspects possibly, but he's a good player regardless of his weight. I mean Stanton looks to be in shape and I don't think anyone wants him.

Nobody is or has said he's not a good baseball player.

He would be better if he was in better shape, as you alluded to yourself.

After multiple years of mlb resources it's not unreasonable to expect kirk to be in better shape.
It's not rocket surgery, convoluting it with umm ortiz, ruth, Stanton nonsense is just a stupid irrelevant waste of time.

Again. Cmon, no need to be ridiculous, being fitter as a pro athlete is an obvious net positive.

 

[jetsforever]

Great opening day

 

[EpochLink]

What a way to start 2024 with a big win. Offense found it's mojo and pitching was spectacular, starting and bullpen.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Kirby Puckett, Pablo Sandoval, Prince Fielder, Mo Vaughn, Tony Gwynn


It's also worth pointing out that it's entirely possible Kirk's body defaults to this shape. He may simply be unable to meaningfully lose weight or change his type/shape no matter how hard he tries, or only through methods that would negatively impact his athletic skill (like almost starving himself or going on a diet that lacks sufficient balance of nutrients)

Hahahaha okok you guys are ridiculous, nevermind, y'all win.

Athletes should stop training, stop working out you cant change your body without "negatively affecting your athletic skill".

Vlad, manoah gain back the 30lbs of fat no problem, become a better baseball player like david ortiz and prince fielder!

Why does anyone anywhere workout really, doesn't matter how fat and slow you are, just accept your default body shape and don't try to improve at all.

Gotcha bois, well played.
Fat 1, fit 0.

 

[The Nemesis]

Hahahaha okok you guys are ridiculous, nevermind, y'all win.

Athletes should stop training, stop working out you cant change your body without "negatively affecting your athletic skill".

Vlad, manoah gain back the 30lbs of fat no problem, become a better baseball player like david ortiz and prince fielder!

Why does anyone anywhere workout really, doesn't matter how fat and slow you are, just accept your default body shape and don't try to improve at all.

Gotcha bois, well played.
Fat 1, fit 0.

Don't be an idiot or an asshole. I never said this was true for everyone. But it is true for some people. I also specifically said that it might be that he can't diet in a way that will both allow him to lose weight and function athletically. Which is not a crazy or radical idea. Because what's the easiest way to try to lose weight? Eat less. Particularly eat less high calorie foods, less carbs/starches/sugars. But when you're trying to do something intensive like play sports, what does your body need? it needs energy to do that stuff. Which will often come from carbs. So sure, you can have him on like a 1200 calorie a day diet doing a bunch of cardio and see if the pounds melt off. But will he be able to play a full baseball game on that diet? Doubtful. You try not eating for a couple of days and then go out and run and play a game of baseball for a few hours and see how it goes.

In a perfect world everyone should be in shape. But the reality is that for some people it's a lot easier to achieve that and for some it's far more difficult if not impossible. And peoples' default assumption is that their experience must be everyone else's. And that if someone can't do the same thing then that's their failing and not just different circumstances.

the fact that you're backed into a corner and have nothing to fall back on except a facetious sarcastic strawman to pretend to wave the white flag to says that you don't really have anything except to harp on the same point with no acknowledgement that the real situation is probably far more nuanced than "tubby needs to lay off the donuts and hit the gym."

 

[GoonieFace]

Hahahaha okok you guys are ridiculous, nevermind, y'all win.

Athletes should stop training, stop working out you cant change your body without "negatively affecting your athletic skill".

Vlad, manoah gain back the 30lbs of fat no problem, become a better baseball player like david ortiz and prince fielder!

Why does anyone anywhere workout really, doesn't matter how fat and slow you are, just accept your default body shape and don't try to improve at all.

Gotcha bois, well played.
Fat 1, fit 0.

By all accounts he put a lot of work in this offseason. He just has the body type that losing significant weight is just not possible. He’s not sloppy or flabby, he’s just solid.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Don't be an idiot or an asshole. I never said this was true for everyone. But it is true for some people. I also specifically said that it might be that he can't diet in a way that will both allow him to lose weight and function athletically. Which is not a crazy or radical idea. Because what's the easiest way to try to lose weight? Eat less. Particularly eat less high calorie foods, less carbs/starches/sugars. But when you're trying to do something intensive like play sports, what does your body need? it needs energy to do that stuff. Which will often come from carbs. So sure, you can have him on like a 1200 calorie a day diet doing a bunch of cardio and see if the pounds melt off. But will he be able to play a full baseball game on that diet? Doubtful. You try not eating for a couple of days and then go out and run and play a game of baseball for a few hours and see how it goes.

In a perfect world everyone should be in shape. But the reality is that for some people it's a lot easier to achieve that and for some it's far more difficult if not impossible. And peoples' default assumption is that their experience must be everyone else's. And that if someone can't do the same thing then that's their failing and not just different circumstances.

the fact that you're backed into a corner and have nothing to fall back on except a facetious sarcastic strawman to pretend to wave the white flag to saysthat you don't really have anything except to harp on the same point with no acknowledgement that the real situation is probably far more nuanced than "tubby needs to lay off the donuts and hit the gym."

Haha this all just sounds even dumber, this is a pro mlb player with endless resources available were talking about, not joe blow from Scarborough.

But yeah you win, he couldn't have gotten in better shape in the offseason its just too difficult for some ppl, and almost impossible for others.
Plus don't want to negatively affect his baseball skills.

Hopefully kirky, bichette and biggio gains 20 more lbs this year so they turn into homer mashing sluggers like vogelbach, and get better at baseball apparently.

Go jays go!!

By all accounts he put a lot of work in this offseason. He just has the body type that losing significant weight is just not possible. He’s not sloppy or flabby, he’s just solid.

Yep it's impossible for him and so many others, once you find your default body shape that's it can't change it.

 

[The Nemesis]

Haha this all just sounds even dumber, this is a pro mlb player with endless resources available were talking about, not joe blow from Scarborough.

But yeah you win, he couldn't have gotten in better shape in the offseason its just too difficult for some ppl, and almost impossible for others.
Plus don't want to negatively affect his baseball skills.

Hopefully kirky, bichette and biggio gains 20 more lbs this year so they turn into homer mashing sluggers like vogelbach, and get better at baseball apparently.

Go jays go!!

Yep it's impossible for him and so many others, once you find your default body shape that's it can't change it.

So you've got nothing. Figured. Usually the people who are the quickest to resort to being childish assholes about stuff are the ones who can't actaully argue their point. Or understand others without resorting to dumb crap like this.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Very nice opener. Berrios solid, offense with some pop, and pen shut it down.

Man I hope the Rays suck this year for once.

 

[GoonieFace]

Haha this all just sounds even dumber, this is a pro mlb player with endless resources available were talking about, not joe blow from Scarborough.

But yeah you win, he couldn't have gotten in better shape in the offseason its just too difficult for some ppl, and almost impossible for others.
Plus don't want to negatively affect his baseball skills.

Hopefully kirky, bichette and biggio gains 20 more lbs this year so they turn into homer mashing sluggers like vogelbach, and get better at baseball apparently.

Go jays go!!

Yep it's impossible for him and so many others, once you find your default body shape that's it can't change it.

Haha this all just sounds even dumber, this is a pro mlb player with endless resources available were talking about, not joe blow from Scarborough.

But yeah you win, he couldn't have gotten in better shape in the offseason its just too difficult for some ppl, and almost impossible for others.
Plus don't want to negatively affect his baseball skills.

Hopefully kirky, bichette and biggio gains 20 more lbs this year so they turn into homer mashing sluggers like vogelbach, and get better at baseball apparently.

Go jays go!!

Yep it's impossible for him and so many others, once you find your default body shape that's it can't change it.

Some people are just built a certain way, sorry if you are too close minded to see that

 

[Bjindaho]

Very nice opener. Berrios solid, offense with some pop, and pen shut it down.

Man I hope the Rays suck this year for once.

They are an Efflin injury away from having an entire MLB calibre rotation on the IL.

 

[VanillaCoke]

So you've got nothing. Figured. Usually the people who are the quickest to resort to being childish assholes about stuff are the ones who can't actaully argue their point. Or understand others without resorting to dumb crap like this.

Yep, i got nada, you win again nemesis.
Working out is stupid waste of time, kirks default body shape is mini fridge and it's too difficult to near impossible to change it.

The points that he'd be even better at baseball if he was in better shape, and having years of mlb resources to do so is unreasonable and frankly ridiculous, that'd only serve to negatively affect his athletic and/or baseball skills.

 

[Bjorn Le]

Haha this all just sounds even dumber, this is a pro mlb player with endless resources available were talking about, not joe blow from Scarborough.

But yeah you win, he couldn't have gotten in better shape in the offseason its just too difficult for some ppl, and almost impossible for others.
Plus don't want to negatively affect his baseball skills.

Hopefully kirky, bichette and biggio gains 20 more lbs this year so they turn into homer mashing sluggers like vogelbach, and get better at baseball apparently.

Go jays go!!

Yep it's impossible for him and so many others, once you find your default body shape that's it can't change it.

Serious question: what is even the point of replying if you don't read what you replied to and instead respond to something that wasn't said? Do you get some strange self-fulfillment out of it? Honestly completely perplexing, although pretty par for the course for a sports fan on the internet.

Kirk obviously put a ton of work in this offseason and is noticeably slimmer. Yet he's still shaped like a bowling bowl because that's his body shape. There is nothing he can do about it. That fact doesn't somehow mean that Bichette or Biggio—who have slim body types— should gain 20 lbs. What a ludicrous comment. You should feel bad for even thinking that let alone writing it.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

They are an Efflin injury away from having an entire MLB calibre rotation on the IL.

And knowing them, Civale and Littell will turn into Cy Young candidates lol

 

[VanillaCoke]

Some people are just built a certain way, sorry if you are too close minded to see that

Kirk obviously put a ton of work in this offseason and is noticeably slimmer. Yet he's still shaped like a bowling bowl because that's his body shape. There is nothing he can do about it. That fact doesn't somehow mean that Bichette or Biggio—who have slim body types— should gain 20 lbs. What a ludicrous comment. You should feel bad for even thinking that let alone writing it.

Yep, that's just his default body. Can't change it, don't try, won't make any positive difference in his baseball career.

Gotcha all loud and clear, I am surprised but grateful I learned so much about pro sports and fitness today.