HF Habs: 2023 HF Habs Prospect rankings #39

[Treb]

1. Lane Hutson, 50.8% (+7)
2. David Reinbacher, 84.8% (NA)
3. Logan Mailloux, 37.2% (+4)
4. Joshua Roy, 37.7% (+1)
5. Adam Engstrom, 42.8% (+21)
6. Owen Beck, 72.2% (+4)
7. Emil Heineman, 40.7% (+6)
8. Sean Farrell, 65.6% (-5)
9. Filip Mesar, 54.5% (-3)
10. Jakub Dobes, 29.5% (+4)
11. Jacob Fowler, 42.1% (NA)
12. Riley Kidney, 39.5% (+0)
13. Jayden Struble, 54.3% (+8)
14. Oliver Kapanen, 36.5% (+10)
15. William Trudeau, 37.3% (+15)
16. Cayden Primeau, 29.2% (-5)
17. Luke Tuch, 33.7% (+6)
18. Bogdan Konyushkov, 33.9% (NA)
19. Vincenz Rohrer, 33.3% (-1)
20. Jared Davidson, 32.5% (+14)
21. Xavier Simoneau, 40.5% (+11)
22. Mattias Norlinder, 35.1% (-5)
23. Jan Mysak, 28.3% (-4)
24. Cedric Guindon, 29.3% (+5)
25. Florian Xhekaj, 23.1% (NA)
26. Quentin Miller, 24.0% (NA)
27. Nathan Légaré, 26.18 (NA)
28. Yevgeni Volokhin, 25% (NA)
29. Blake Biondi, 28.0% (-2)
30. Filip Eriksson, 29.0% (NA)
31. Lucas Condotta, 32.7% (+12)
32. Luke Mittelstadt, 23.2% (NA)
33. Petteri Nurmi, 35.7% (+0)
34. Nicolas Beaudin, 36.7% (NA)
35. Miguel Tourigny, 28.6% (+0)
36. Ty Smilanic, 37.5% (-8)
37. Sam Harris, 38.1% (NA)
38. Emmett Croteau, 45.5% (+0)
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Graduated: Slafkosky, Guhle, Barron, Harris, Xhekaj, Ylonen, Harvey-Pinard
Out: Dichow, Fairbrother, Teasdale, Hillis, Schnarr, Gorniak, Henriksson

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[WeThreeKings]

I'll go Kostenko here.

 

[Treb]

I'll go Kostenko here.

To me Pitlick and Kostenko are the only actual prospects remaining. The rest are just awaiting their rights expiry date.

Vrbetic was decent in the ECHL and is still searching for a team this year. That is a year after his OHL team let him go instead of getting him back as an overager. I expect him to be retired by 2025 or play in a league like the SPHL.

Sobolev has no offence even at the CHL level. I understand he's a defensive D, but even Hal Gill was getting some points. Probably goes back to Russia and play in the VHL.

Gordin has a good shot but seemingly can't get to use it consistently even at the VHL level. Long-term, probably a VHL/KHL tweener.

I'm surprised Minnesota-Duluth decided to still give Smith his scholarship. Didn't even score a single goal in 24 games as a forward and terrible all around since leaving high school. I'd be surprised if he plays 1 pro game.

 

[ryan callahan]

To me Pitlick and Kostenko are the only actual prospects remaining. The rest are just awaiting their rights expiry date.

Vrbetic was decent in the ECHL and is still searching for a team this year. That is a year after his OHL team let him go instead of getting him back as an overager. I expect him to be retired by 2025 or play in a league like the SPHL.

Sobolev has no offence even at the CHL level. I understand he's a defensive D, but even Hal Gill was getting some points. Probably goes back to Russia and play in the VHL.

Gordin has a good shot but seemingly can't get to use it consistently even at the VHL level. Long-term, probably a VHL/KHL tweener.

I'm surprised Minnesota-Duluth decided to still give Smith his scholarship. Didn't even score a single goal in 24 games as a forward and terrible all around since leaving high school. I'd be surprised if he plays 1 pro game.

Smith had a good freshman season in sheltered minutes and led his team's forwards in +/-, which has to be used with context but at least it means that he wasn't a net negative out there. Very good athlete and he still has three more years to figure out his offense. Wouldn't write him off just yet.

 

[Treb]

Smith had a good freshman season in sheltered minutes and led his team's forward in +/-, which has to be used with context but at least it means that he wasn't a net negative out there. Very good athlete and he still has three more years to figure out his offense. Wouldn't write him off just yet.

I don't know how you can call 5 assists in 24 games as a 20 years old a good freshman season with a straight face.

He wasn't even decent in the USHL.

As you said, sheltered minutes, so favorable +/- is expected.

Very good athlete compared to me? Sure. Compared to anyone else in our pool? No.

He's basically forward Casey Staum. Good USHS player that will not translate.

 

[ryan callahan]

I don't know how you can call 5 assists in 24 games as a 20 years old a good freshman season with a straight face.

He wasn't even decent in the USHL.

As you said, sheltered minutes, so favorable +/- is expected.

Very good athlete compared to me? Sure. Compared to anyone else in our pool? No.

He's basically forward Casey Staum. Good USHS player that will not translate.

Relative to his performance in the USHL his performance as a freshman on a bad team in a strong conference was satisfying to me. And your athlete comment is strange. Smith is extremely mediocre if not bad as an hockey prospect, but he is a better athlete in the conventional sense than Kidney, Roy, Hutson, Engstrom, Farrell, etc. And Smith is much better than Staum ever was (Staum couldn't even stick as a freshman on an horrible team).

 

[Treb]

Relative to his performance in the USHL his performance as a freshman on a bad team in a strong conference was satisfying to me. And your athlete comment is strange. Smith is extremely mediocre as an hockey prospect, but he is a better athlete in the conventional sense than Kidney, Roy, Hutson, Engstrom, Farrell, etc. And Smith is much better than Staum ever was (Staum couldn't even stick as a freshman on an horrible team).

I guess if you see it that way, he did have a good freshman season since his USHL play was abysmal. Abysmal enough that is was a pain to know his injuries because no one in the USHL circle cared to ask. It was even hard to know if he was even still part of the Stampede at some point.

What does general athlete have to do with anything? Being an hockey athlete is what matter here and he is not impressive. He can go do track and field if he wants.

Being slightly better than Staum is not impressive. They are still the same, impressive USHS player whose game will not translate.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

I guess if you see it that way, he did have a good freshman season since his USHL play was abysmal. Abysmal enough that is was a pain to know his injuries because no one in the USHL circle cared to ask. It was even hard to know if he was even still part of the Stampede at some point.

What does general athlete have to do with anything? Being an hockey athlete is what matter here and he is not impressive. He can go do track and field if he wants.

Being slightly better than Staum is not impressive. They are still the same, impressive USHS player whose game will not translate.

With how adamant he is in his defense of him he either knows Jack Smith or Jack Shith.

 

[Treb]

Does he even get a regular shift this year in his D+4?

James - Steeves - Loheit
Howard - Loney - Olson
McMenamim - Spicer - Biondi
Mylymok - Perkins - Bettens
Johnson - Smith - Kleven
Fischer - Menghini

He better hope they get injuries and the younger guys don't push too hard.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Smith had a good freshman season in sheltered minutes and led his team's forwards in +/-, which has to be used with context but at least it means that he wasn't a net negative out there. Very good athlete and he still has three more years to figure out his offense. Wouldn't write him off just yet.

Yeah Jack Smith surprised me positively at the development camp. I actually think he's one of the better prospects still left to vote on. Most of the ones left I am no longer interested in.

 

[ryan callahan]

I don't know how you can call 5 assists in 24 games as a 20 years old a good freshman season with a straight face.

He wasn't even decent in the USHL.

As you said, sheltered minutes, so favorable +/- is expected.

Very good athlete compared to me? Sure. Compared to anyone else in our pool? No.

He's basically forward Casey Staum. Good USHS player that will not translate.

lmao @ using this logic for +/- but then docking him for his lack of goals. LOL his chance of making the NHL is probably in the neighborhood of 1-2% but your anger at him is laughable. Let it go dude, he was a worthless 4th round pick, he didn't screw your girl.

 

[Treb]

lmao @ using this logic for +/- but then docking him for his lack of goals. LOL his chance of making the NHL is probably in the neighborhood of 1-2% but your anger at him is laughable. Let it go dude, he was a worthless 4th round pick, he didn't screw your girl.

I hate people being contrarians just to be contrarians.

Also, it would be 1-2% of playing pro hockey at all.

 

[ryan callahan]

I hate people being contrarians just to be contrarians.

Also, it would be 1-2% of playing pro hockey at all.

Agree to disagree