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GirardSpinorama
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Not a chance. Duhaime has also been good. Just look at ice time, Kovalenko is essentially benched.
RockLobster
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Yeah so I'm not saying that Kovalenko should definitively be benched, nor am I saying he should definitively be starting.
He had some very BAD mistakes last game, one of them ended up in the back of the net (though, honestly that was also George's worst goal given up in the game, very clean shot with no one in front of him and he just didn't get it); the other mistake could have ended up in the back of the net.
I think it's VERY obvious that the best case scenario is that he needs as much practice time with this team to get as close to acclimated with his NHL teammates as possible. At worst he is in over his head w/ the NHL speed in the Playoffs and will need to basically be benched and then reset for next season (Camp, pre-Season, season).
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As he should be. Kovalenko isn’t ready for this and made some really bad defensive errors.
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Hopefully he’s also got the dedication to not only learn and apply in practice, but to spend the necessary time in the film room to understand where he needs to be, where his teammates should be, and what do under the scenarios where either of those break down.
At minimum, he HAS to be smart and careful with the puck.
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You get it.
If you want to have a long-term gig around the Avs, you have to play by the mafia's rules.
Metallo
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This is not aimed at you, you are doing a good job, and I get that the Avs are difficult. But (to all Avs media contingent) get intermidiaries, get sources, get the news. By not getting the news you are showing the Avs that they can control the news. It's a vicious circle.
RockLobster
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Your solution is one of those "easier said than done" situations.
The local media is pretty much stuck between a rock and a hard place. People like Lebrun, Lavoie, or Gagon (last night w/ the Drouin news) don't have to play by the same rules as people like TMV, or DNVR.
Remember when The Athletic came to town with Ryan Clark? The Avs practically treated him/them with kid gloves and spoonfed him a lot of things that other local hustlers had been trying to get for years. Lebrun gets that Sakic interview like every year because he's a national journalist. Historically, at least dating back to when Roy was coach, the French-Canadian media usually gets/got better/more news on the Avs because...well who the f*** knows, maybe because of us coming from Quebec and because Roy was French-Canadian, etc.
In recent years we've seen an outlet like DNVR get players on their podcast during training camp, get the sitting GM on their podcast post-trade deadline, etc. This highlights, again, how stuck the local media is. If they still want to get what the Avs give them, they can't piss them off. And this is these people's livelihood, so they can't really go out on a limb to burn those bridges.
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...and do what with that information? As soon as it's reported, the Avs take action and there's consequences. Doesn't matter if the reporter hides his source, it's still coming out from the reporter!
If you think people like TMV don't know more than they post but choose to keep it to themselves, then you're being naive. They're just not allowed to let it out and decide not to in order to keep their jobs.
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Avalanche Injury Update: Drouin Return Possible In Round Two
You never want to lose anyone to injury, but the Colorado Avalanche were able to overcome a few and make it past round one on Tuesday night. Could they get some of the calvary in round two? It sounds possible. Jonathan Drouin, who has been around the team and has been walking with a very […]
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I know the story. I was 25 ish when it happened.You should read about how Peter and Anton got to Quebec. The Nordiques/Avs have had to employ gestapo media relations since the onset with the defection of those two. The Athletic had a pretty good writeup that includes some of the details in their top NHL 99 series...
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RampoSanta
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Deep skate cut? That injury in game 82 didnt look anything like a cutAvalanche Injury Update: Drouin Return Possible In Round Two
You never want to lose anyone to injury, but the Colorado Avalanche were able to overcome a few and make it past round one on Tuesday night. Could they get some of the calvary in round two? It sounds possible. Jonathan Drouin, who has been around the team and has been walking with a very […]
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GeoRox89
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This is always interesting to me. Bieksa has been on a decade+ long campaign about Kevlar socks after his skate cut. Pretty sure he more or less forced his Canucks teammmates to all start wearing it. Anaheim was probably a different story since he wasn’t one of the big guys in the room. Surprised Landy didn’t go full Bieksa on the Avs locker room after that cut derailed his career
Edit: It’s been a while since the injury so it’s probably only 50-50 at this point but if this info had come out when he went down you could pretty well guarantee we’d see another why Kevlar should be standard practice presentation from him on HNIC
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NorthernAvsFan
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Ok, there’s a more definitive answer on Drouin.
About a 4 week recovery from the injury. The Avs played Edmonton on April 18, so we’re probably looking at around a couple more weeks till he can come back.
Definitely want to see that Stars/Knights series to go 7 now. Sounds like Drouin might be available by like game 5 of the second round. Not ideal, but could be worse.
About a 4 week recovery from the injury. The Avs played Edmonton on April 18, so we’re probably looking at around a couple more weeks till he can come back.
Definitely want to see that Stars/Knights series to go 7 now. Sounds like Drouin might be available by like game 5 of the second round. Not ideal, but could be worse.
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It is mostly a comfort thing. It doesn't feel the same movement wise and it certainly is different from an airflow/sweating perspective. So players aren't used to it and don't want to take the time to get used to it. Similar to visors and helmets in the past. Plus the whole macho part of the game.
It won't be a huge deal in 5-6 years though. Lower leagues have already mandated it. The AHL has wrist and sock protection already, they'll likely extend to neck and legging soon. Once the players come up with those protections and get used to it, they'll likely keep them. We may also see it in the new CBA where all new players are simply required to wear them.
Ceremony
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I can get it out of him.
@The Mars Volchenkov don't reply in the next five minutes if Landeskog is coming back for round two.
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Metallo
NWOBHM forever \m/
Avs media doesn't fight back and feels quite secure under the boot of Martineau. There are ways to leak the info to 3rd parties, and even trade that for benefit for themselves. But Avs media is just very weak.
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Just listened to Bednar presser again after the game. He said Drouin’s timeline is 4 weeks or less. If it’s exactly 4 weeks we’re looking at game 4 or 5 return date, but if it’s less, maybe game 2? It’s possible since he said 4 weeks or less
Foppa2118
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Yeah, IMO too many Avs reporters over the years just accepted this, and now it's become the standard, and the new people are afraid to go against the grain to stand up against it.
What are the Avs really gonna do? They're not gonna pull credentials for reporting a rumor. Especially if it's true. They're not feeding reporters much of anything, because nothing ever comes out, so they wouldn't miss out on much there.
What they may or may not do, is give them less access to players, but that's not really a big thing for anyone here anyway. They almost never do any 1 on 1 interviews. The Avs don't like making their players do that, and the few they do, mostly go to Altitude. Most everything else comes from press scrums that they'd be allowed to continue with.
If someone wants to stand out, they should put in the work with their sources, and find themselves a niche as someone who provides actual info on the Avs, when no one else does. The positives from that could be more than whatever negatives comes from the team.
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