Roster Moves: 2021 Roster Thread XXV: Extended Qualifying Offers to Bunnaman, Hart, Kase, Sanheim; Morin re-signed

[Magua]

I feel like the best 5v5 offensive zone passer on the defense would also be the best PP offensive zone passer, especially given pre-NHL history, but I admit we don’t have a real sample, nor should the team ever provide itself with a sample. That’s just logic and good asset management. Keep on keeping on, Flyers! #anytimeanywherebutPP

 

[Starat327]

How do you not understand how and why he does what he does still? How many more years of this?

Oh, I know why. It's just funny to me, maybe that's the more appropriate way to word it.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Thompson and Yandle are on minimum contracts. Their money would not have had an impact on a goalie contract.

Ristolainen also doesn’t get the wait and see treatment considering the price. He has to be good from the jump.

Yeah just being meh isn’t going to cut it & he has got a long way to go just to get there let alone doing the full 180.

Obviously the asset investment is already there & the sizable contract could be on the way. But the Flyers absolutely cannot afford another player towards the top of the lineup who doesn’t supply enough value for the ice time/usage they get. We already got multiple players that do that as is.

 

[Math the wild rose]

Whatever happen this year. My bet is that Giroux is a goner.

Need that 8millions to pay Couturier, Farabee, Some guys in bottom 6, and Sanheim.

Unless they trade Koneckny or another high paid winger? Could be both with Giroux?

The next destination of some players will depends on their performance this year, nevertheless

 

[renberg]

Please do a deal with Sanheim before Nurse pulls in 9M...

Oilers and Nurse Move From 4-Yr to 8-Yr Contract Extension, Deal Close
It looks like that train has left the station. $8X9 is nonsense but probably what Nurse is getting. Jones deal its even sillier. Hamilton is in the $9M per range and he was the third best defenseman on his team. If I was Sanheim I'd be looking for some serious cash. He'll get it somewhere. Calgary was rumored to want him. Hanifin for Sanheim?
MTWR, $8 isn't going to cut it for Couts. Punch it up a million. He's been a bargain for the club for years and never has complained. I'd venture that the reason for that is he was promised his coins in the new deal. If anyone is going to have to swallow hard on the extension it'll be Giroux.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Whatever happen this year. My bet is that Giroux is a goner.

Need that 8millions to pay Couturier, Farabee, Some guys in bottom 6, and Sanheim.

Unless they trade Koneckny or another high paid winger? Could be both with Giroux?

The next destination of some players will depends on their performance this year, nevertheless

I can’t really see Giroux going & Couturier staying. Couturier has only played on teams that have won a total of two playoff rounds in separate in playoffs since he’s been here. He may have even more reason to leave than Giroux if he has no faith in this team going forward.

It might be a both stay or both go type of scenarios.

 

[Rebels57]

Oilers and Nurse Move From 4-Yr to 8-Yr Contract Extension, Deal Close
It looks like that train has left the station. $8X9 is nonsense but probably what Nurse is getting. Jones deal its even sillier. Hamilton is in the $9M per range and he was the third best defenseman on his team. If I was Sanheim I'd be looking for some serious cash. He'll get it somewhere. Calgary was rumored to want him. Hanifin for Sanheim?
MTWR, $8 isn't going to cut it for Couts. Punch it up a million. He's been a bargain for the club for years and never has complained. I'd venture that the reason for that is he was promised his coins in the new deal. If anyone is going to have to swallow hard on the extension it'll be Giroux.

I will buy Slavin > Hamilton but i'm not buying Pesce over him.

 

[Curufinwe]

Giroux isn't get $8m on his next deal. 3 x $5m would be my prediction. 8 x $8m for Couturier.

JVR being moved, possibly with retention, is another option that they may look at to make room for Farabee's extension.

 

[Curufinwe]

Double post.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Oilers and Nurse Move From 4-Yr to 8-Yr Contract Extension, Deal Close
It looks like that train has left the station. $8X9 is nonsense but probably what Nurse is getting. Jones deal its even sillier. Hamilton is in the $9M per range and he was the third best defenseman on his team. If I was Sanheim I'd be looking for some serious cash. He'll get it somewhere. Calgary was rumored to want him. Hanifin for Sanheim?
MTWR, $8 isn't going to cut it for Couts. Punch it up a million. He's been a bargain for the club for years and never has complained. I'd venture that the reason for that is he was promised his coins in the new deal. If anyone is going to have to swallow hard on the extension it'll be Giroux.

Sign me up for Hanifin for Sanheim

 

[wasup]

If you don't get Yandle and Thompson and replace them on the roster with young players like York and Rubtsov, you don't have any extra money for a goalie.

Ya you guys are right , my head was up my ass . again

 

[Curufinwe]

Sign me up for Hanifin for Sanheim

What are the advantages of that versus, say, signing Sanheim for 3 x $4.95m?

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

What are the advantages of that versus, say, signing Sanheim for 3 x $4.95m?

I can’t really say other than I’ve always liked Hanifin going back to his draft year

 

[Magua]

Only in hockey is the 4th place Norris getter the 2nd or 3rd best defensemen on his own team.

Slavin is a helluva top pair caliber defensive defenseman, and there was absolutely symbiosis going on, but I think this narrative needs to be taken behind the woodshed. Slavin benefited from Hamilton no less than the other way around. Statistically, it could be construed as a lot more, but I wouldn’t go that far. They had a good thing, and everyone loses with Douglas going to the Devils.

 

[Rebels57]

Giroux isn't get $8m on his next deal. 3 x $5m would be my prediction. 8 x $8m for Couturier.

JVR being moved, possibly with retention, is another option that may look at to make room for Farabee's extension.

Yeah I think they'll come pretty close to swapping cap hits. They make $12.58 combined right now and $5 for Giroux and $8-8.5 for Couturier would put them in the $13 - $13.5 range.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Whatever happen this year. My bet is that Giroux is a goner.

Need that 8millions to pay Couturier, Farabee, Some guys in bottom 6, and Sanheim.

Unless they trade Koneckny or another high paid winger? Could be both with Giroux?

The next destination of some players will depends on their performance this year, nevertheless

if Roo goes, Cooter will follow..

 

[Rebels57]

Only in hockey is the 4th place Norris getter the 2nd or 3rd best defender on his own team.

Slavin is a helluva player, and there was absolutely symbiosis going on, but I think this narrative needs to be taken behind the woodshed. Slavin benefited from Hamilton no less than the other way around. Statistically, it could be construed as a lot more, but I wouldn’t go that far.

Let's not pretend that is a true indicator of a players worth either lol

 

[The Madrigal]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Let's not pretend that is a true indicator of a players worth either lol

It generally isn’t but a player of his ilk isn’t going to get breaks/excuses/reputation bump like others would.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Hanifin isn't good.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

And they want to nickel and dime his ass. Fuct.

thats what happens with arbitration. Team will point out all his flaws and get a cheap deal. It’s a ugly process which is why many deals get worked out before

 

[BritainStix]

Hanifin isn't good.

Great input.

He appears to have solid underlying stats. What makes him "not good"

 

[TCTC]

thats what happens with arbitration. Team will point out all his flaws and get a cheap deal. It’s a ugly process which is why many deals get worked out before

But we got some funny stories, too.

The Brendan Morrison story is probably the best. Brian Burke always seems to have the best stories.

 

[BernieParent]

Ya you guys are right , my head was up my ass . again

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Great input.

He appears to have solid underlying stats. What makes him "not good"

Because his first name isn’t Travis.