2021 Offseason player / roster discussion: Who's Next, This Song is Over, Won't Get Fooled Again

[itwasaforwardpass]

Not every team is going to give full value for Eichel right now due to health concerns. Some would take the chance. Don't sell low. His value will be better if he shows it on the ice.

The best option is still to keep Eichel and Reinhart for this season (up to the trade deadline if the team is still bad), hire a good coach and get a couple goalies. Show them the team wants to win.

 

[Dough72]

Adams mentioned surrounding the young core with the right players. They are going to go and sign more Eakins and Shearys. High character guys with playoff experience that suck at hockey.

not sure about those two specifically but high character guys with experience are exactly what you want to surround young stars with. I think zach hyman is a ufa soon and he'd be the type to look for, a terrific linemate for just about anybody because his talent is doing the heavy lifting and making his linemates jobs easier. But the last thing buffalo should do is surround their young core with one-dimensional c-list scorers who want the puck on their own stick because they are useless without it. And not particularly good with it either, otherwise they would be part of some teams core themselves.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

not sure about those two specifically but high character guys with experience are exactly what you want to surround young stars with. I think zach hyman is a ufa soon and he'd be the type to look for, a terrific linemate for just about anybody because his talent is doing the heavy lifting and making his linemates jobs easier. But the last thing buffalo should do is surround their young core with one-dimensional c-list scorers who want the puck on their own stick because they are useless without it. And not particularly good with it either, otherwise they would be part of some teams core themselves.

I agree with you about Hyman. He is the hardworking hard nosed type player that the Sabres lack. Im skeptical about the Sabres identifying the right complementary players though, because they almost never do. Not sure if he'd want to come here without the Sabres overpaying him.

 

[elchud]

It says everything that your hope is betting on a scenario that has at best an 18.5% chance of happening, meaning there's a 81.5% chance of it not happening

I'm OK with a top 3 pick in 2022. The top 6 in 2022 could all go first overall in the 2021 draft

 

[HaNotsri]

It says everything that your hope is betting on a scenario that has at best an 18.5% chance of happening, meaning there's a 81.5% chance of it not happening

18.5% is a hell of a lot better than our playoff percentage the last ten years.

 

[Team Cozens]

I agree with you about Hyman. He is the hardworking hard nosed type player that the Sabres lack. Im skeptical about the Sabres identifying the right complementary players though, because they almost never do. Not sure if he'd want to come here without the Sabres overpaying him.

not sure about those two specifically but high character guys with experience are exactly what you want to surround young stars with. I think zach hyman is a ufa soon and he'd be the type to look for, a terrific linemate for just about anybody because his talent is doing the heavy lifting and making his linemates jobs easier. But the last thing buffalo should do is surround their young core with one-dimensional c-list scorers who want the puck on their own stick because they are useless without it. And not particularly good with it either, otherwise they would be part of some teams core themselves.

Hyman is from Toronto and a very wealthy family. He will resign with the Leafs cheap.

 

[elchud]

Even if we do 6x6 he would turn it down and thats a big overpay

 

[elchud]

There's really no free agents to help this team. Hamilton is happy in Carolina and will do a team friendly deal. Landeskog is a pipe dream. LHD is really weak.

Danault I think will get a crazy overpay from someone. Nuge...I dunno...would probably cost 5x7.5 and I dont think he would/could replace Sam or Jack. Oleksiak could be a value next year but its so thin an LHD this summer. Maybe can find value in Granlund or Armia. Other than that its 4th liners, which we could certainly use.

There are a lot of goalies available. If we do resign Ullmark, 1.5M should get you a solid backup.

 

[HaNotsri]

Olofsson and Pilut to keep Thompson company in the world championship.

 

[Kramdaman]

I think you have to scrub Eichel/Risto from the Roster.

I offer Sam a max extension for 7-8 a year and see if he bites. If he doesn’t, I’m moving him this off-season.

Lets make a Hockey Trade post Expansion:
Calgary Receives:
Jack Eichel
Rasmus Ristolainen

Buffalo Receives:
Matthew Tkachuck
Elias Lindholm
Jusso Valimaki
Connor Zary

 

[CrazyWayne]

Shane Wright.

Tanking the Wright way this time around

 

[SundherDome]

Did any players hit performance bonuses?

 

[johnnystormcgy]

I think you have to scrub Eichel/Risto from the Roster.

I offer Sam a max extension for 7-8 a year and see if he bites. If he doesn’t, I’m moving him this off-season.

Lets make a Hockey Trade post Expansion:
Calgary Receives:
Jack Eichel
Rasmus Ristolainen

Buffalo Receives:
Matthew Tkachuck
Elias Lindholm
Jusso Valimaki
Connor Zary

That’s way too much, but I would base something around Tkachuk + Monahan (Don’t need Risto).

I guess the question for the Sabres is do you want players that will step onto your team now or in the future?

Not even close, close, or get the heck off our boards??

 

[Zman5778]

That’s way too much, but I would base something around Tkachuk + Monahan (Don’t need Risto).

I guess the question for the Sabres is do you want players that will step onto your team now or in the future?

Not even close, close, or get the heck off our boards??

I'm not sure you'll find a lot of love for Monahan on these boards.

Tkachuk/Zary/1st for Eichel seems just about right.

And as strange as this is to say, if you really want to ditch Monahan on us on top of Tkachuk.........you'd need to take cap back.

 

[johnnystormcgy]

I'm not sure you'll find a lot of love for Monahan on these boards.

Tkachuk/Zary/1st for Eichel seems just about right.

And as strange as this is to say, if you really want to ditch Monahan on us on top of Tkachuk.........you'd need to take cap back.

Just curious, who would your top two centres be next year? If you traded Eichel?

 

[Fjordy]

Just curious, who would your top two centres be next year? If you traded Eichel?

Reinhart and Mittelstadt

But if we also trade Reinhart, this is another matter, then we probably rebuild.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I agree with you about Hyman. He is the hardworking hard nosed type player that the Sabres lack. Im skeptical about the Sabres identifying the right complementary players though, because they almost never do. Not sure if he'd want to come here without the Sabres overpaying him.

Yeah
I mean, shit, Adams just signed Eakin last summer. Cody. Eakin. For 2 years. For more than league minimum.

 

[Fjordy]

Yeah
I mean, shit, Adams just signed Eakin last summer. Cody. Eakin. For 2 years. For more than league minimum.

But then there was Krueger and there was no Karmanos, also Granato did not seem to trust bad players too much. Maybe there won't be such bad signings this offseason, at least I hope so.

 

[Zman5778]

Just curious, who would your top two centres be next year? If you traded Eichel?

Ideally, our center spine would be Reinhart, Mittlestadt and Cozens.

If we trade Sam too......then it's Mittlestadt and Cozens........

 

[Zman5778]

But then there was Krueger and there was no Karmanos, also Granato did not seem to trust bad players too much. Maybe there won't be such bad signings this offseason, at least I hope so.

Eakin and Hall screamed of "RK wanted this, so we signed them".

 

[jc17]

Eakin and Hall screamed of "RK wanted this, so we signed them".

Idk about hall. I think Ralph helped him get here, but I don't think anyone was against it

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Idk about hall. I think Ralph helped him get here, but I don't think anyone was against it

Despite the fact that it blew up in our faces, you have to go for someone like Hall if he becomes available in free agency.

At least it was for one year instead of seven years.

 

[Buffaloed]

Despite the fact that it blew up in our faces, you have to go for someone like Hall if he becomes available in free agency.

At least it was for one year instead of seven years.

That was a good signing. If Eichel and Ullmark stay healthy this is a different team but they still have the problem of Krueger shitting the bed. Hall has 8G, 6A in 14 games with the Bruins. The Sabres would be looking at the same kind of production from Hall playing on a healthy Eichel's wing.

 

[2 others]

You look at all this talent in the playoffs right now, and you still want to trade Eichel?!

 

[Zman5778]

You look at all this talent in the playoffs right now, and you still want to trade Eichel?!

No one reasonable/sane WANTS to trade Eichel.