It absolutely means something. It means that their elite talent can't even make up to be better than the crappy Habs which is what you said they can do(and it's wrong). At the very least the Habs aren't a bottom 10 team for a decade with 2 elite players to show for it. The only way they got their elite pieces is because they fell to their lap which is still not enough. So the only 2 elite players is because of no brainer moves, which has done nothing for them so far.
I meant in term of overall quality and future. Our best players are old, their best players are not even in their prime. That's the reason why I take their team instead of the one we have now. It's easier to build around Eichel, Dahlin and some other good players, than add the elite players that the Habs need.
What the Habs have done since MB added character, leadership and traded our only elite skater ? Besides looking pathetic against the rangers. I'll rather suck like them and have a better percentage to draft an elite player than make the playoffs with a crappy team knowing that we stand no chance.
Twenty-six years of hope for the best, once we make the playoffs everything can happen. So far we are at the same level, no Stanley cup.
Price and Weber are absolutely great players. There aren't 40ish dmen better than Weber and Price is without a doubt a top 10 goalie. Skinner was atrocious last year and is getting paid 1 million less than Price, and was a 2nd line player for the majority of his career. It's not even in the same planet in terms of bad contracts. Price's contract is bad, but Skinners is EXTREMELY bad.
Price and Weber are not great anymore. Malkin, Crosby, McDavid, Draisatl, Eichel, Matthews, Pastarnak these players are great.
Yes Skinner's contract is way worse, but Price and Weber contracts are bad. Like I said before, my point was not to show you that we are worse than them, but that we have the same problems too.
But why? There is no relevance to that. You don't see me bringing up bad moves by the Sabres for over a decade ago... You are just randomly bringing up stuff that makes no sense and has no meaning to what we are discussing.
The Gomez trade is extremely random and holds no meaning here. Sergachev trade was recent, ROR trade was just last year. The fact that the only argument you have is to bring up a trade that was over a decade ago confirms that there is no comparison to be made.
You previously included the last 10 years, when you said that they sucked for 10 years, that's the only reason I used a trade from 10 years ago ? Recently we have no trade as bad.
Well if you look at it that way, no GM should ever get criticized for any trade since they "probably" got the best they could. I don't think he outright refused a 2nd round pick, but every single person knew that they sold him very cheap. Take a look at the Sabres board at the time of the trade, they were underwhelmed and one poster expected a 2nd from a playoff team. Scandella also had twice the PPG in Buffalo this year then here, he didn't really play better. The Habs retained on him which was a huge difference, but the Sabres wanted Frolik instead of doing the same. Terrible and stupid asset management by the Sabres. BTW, Robby Fabbri was scratched 8 games in his last 9 as a Blues player. Not exactly a surefire good player that everyone wanted. The 2nd was worth more than Fabbri at the time of the trade.
When we acquired Scandella, Habs fans were not thrilled, the most recurrent comment was "why not, we have nothing to lose".
Nobody (in his right mind) expected a 2nd for Scandella, the market was surprisingly high, you can't blame the GM for not predicting that. They needed space to add some forward depth, so he traded the most movable depth d-man.
Bad asset management, Habs too are victims of these.
DLR is a 4th liner at best, Red Wings turned a reject into a young player who can score around 50 points per season... We had to give a young D-man man full of potential to get a similar player.
What's the point of sucking for a decade and only have 2 elite talents? Before the Habs sucked, they were a good team and made the conference finals twice with an elite player in Price(top 5), Subban(2nd round) and a very good player in Pacioretty(early 20s 1st). Their own 3rd overall pick was Bustchenyuk who looks to be out of the league soon and was far from an elite talent to help them the way Eichel and Dahlin. I'd rather have that than 10 years of misery and only have 2 players to show for it and still can't beat a team with no elite players.What flash of greatness? They are miserable over there, I encourage you to take a look before assuming it's all sunshine and rainbows. Here's a video to which all of them wholeheartedly agree with.
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When you can't build a playoff team around Eichel and Dahlin, you are in an awful position. It's not as easy to fix as you claim because they wouldn't be bottom 10 for like a decade.
We also have one thing that they don't. Substantially better depth, and it shows that when we rank ahead of them in pretty much every year for the past decade.
It's easier to add depth than elite players, we are looking for a #1C since Damphousse.
Now my turn to play that game.
-This team treated their best players like worthless bums, Subban, Radulov and Markov.
-4 years of misery and not a single elite player or not even a great one. When we draft one, we do our best to f*** his developement.
-We are represented by a GM who can't speak properly in French nor in English.
-I can't remember the last time we had a #1C.
-Our last PPG player was Kovalev, more than a decade ago.
-The last good player we drafted and developed is Gally, a decade ago.
-Last year a player finally cracked the 70-point mark, the first one in a decade and, of course, to reward him we give him a rookie and a scrub on his wings the following season.
-We lost our whole LD during the same summer and since then we are in deep trouble.
-Our GM refused to trade Poehling + a meaningless piece for ROR. That's unpardonable, knowing that we are looking for a #1C since forever.
-Our GM can't trade for the players we lack, refuse to commit to a rebuild, can't sign UFA players. How this team can improve ?
We are better than them, but for how long ? Petry, Tatar, Gally and Danault need new contracts, at least one of them will be overpaid.
The future is not bright and we have no elite player, even though we sucked and drafted in the top-1o twice in the previous 5 years.
