Prospect Info: 2020 NHL draft.

[Christien]

Certainly looks like him to me.

Yeah it’s gotta be

 

[Christien]

Stützle’s goal yesterday at 1:12

 

[newfy]

Mysak in the 2nd is not gonna happen unless he drops like Kaliyev. I have him going 20 to 25 overall.

I say we grab Simontaival with our early 2nd.

Right now Mysak has already fallen. Coming to the OHL might help him but hes ranked at 50 something on Mackenzies list. Hes definitely possible in the second

 

[Bondurant]

Stützle’s goal yesterday at 1:12

The announcer sounds like a little man doing a bad Arnold impression. Nice clip. I need to keep up on DEL highlights. I'd love to go to a game there someday.

 

[Marky9er]

Right now Mysak has already fallen. Coming to the OHL might help him but hes ranked at 50 something on Mackenzies list. Hes definitely possible in the second

I liked him at WJC. I think he has the tools and if his vision and thinking can catch up he'd be a heck of a player. He'd be one forward I'd be ok with at 32.

 

[Orthodox Caveman]

 

[Marky9er]

We're like: people are sleeping on Mysak, maybe we can get him.

Mysak in first period tonight: hold my beer while I score a hat trick and add a couple apples.

 

[Avery Rule]

Name reminds me too much of Jan Mursak

 

[Marky9er]

Name reminds me too much of Jan Mursak

I hear that.

 

[lilidk]

Is it thru that we going to to get in 1-4 range?

 

[odin1981]

Is it thru that we going to to get in 1-4 range?

Unless they win out damn near from this point forward yes.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Myšák is on fire with Bulldogs, scored his first OHL hattrick. I said that he is locked top 20, in draft. Exactly the same copy of Hertl.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Name reminds me too much of Jan Mursak

Well, he is not Mursak, but Myšák(read meshaak), meaning little mouse.

 

[Frk It]

Are we talking about 32 OA? I'd probably take my chances on him falling. There's a number of small skilled forwards available that will fall into the 50-93 range and at 32 I'm looking for a legitimate D most likely.

I love Tullio and hope he makes it into that 60-70 range where we have 3 picks.

Also would love to get Tullio later on in the draft. The OHL is stacked this year.

 

[odin1981]

Given the the likely hood of picking 3-4 overall I would love 1 of Drysdale and one of Stutzle or Byfield (dependant on who went at #2).

 

[DInTheB]

Looks like Steve is currently in Germany

 

[Christien]

Looks like Steve is currently in Germany

As he should be.

There's not a lot of people i'd rather have evaluate talent than Steve Yzerman and Hakan Andersson

 

[newfy]

Given the the likely hood of picking 3-4 overall I would love 1 of Drysdale and one of Stutzle or Byfield (dependant on who went at #2).

3-4 overall this year is really solid I think compared to a lot of years but it would still suck to fall. The one thing that sucks about Drysdale is that hes a righty. Righty D are more rare and worth more in trades but it still sucks already having that as one of the stronger parts of the team going forward right now. All of Lafreniere, Stutzle and Byfield really fill way bigger needseven if Drysdale is a stud dman.

 

[Red Stanley]

As he should be.

There's not a lot of people i'd rather have evaluate talent than Steve Yzerman and Hakan Andersson

Plus there's no reason whatsoever to be in Detroit right now.

 

[odin1981]

3-4 overall this year is really solid I think compared to a lot of years but it would still suck to fall. The one thing that sucks about Drysdale is that hes a righty. Righty D are more rare and worth more in trades but it still sucks already having that as one of the stronger parts of the team going forward right now. All of Lafreniere, Stutzle and Byfield really fill way bigger needseven if Drysdale is a stud dman.

I was thinking if we picked Drysdale at #4 we could package say Hronek before ufa deal for a top line winter or a #2c.

 

[Christien]

Jokke Nevalainen from Dobber released his rankings of European prospects yesterday that has scouting profiles on 45 different European players. Well worth checking out. He has Raymond as the best European skater.

2020 NHL Draft Ranking: European prospects (February 2020)

 

[Frk It]

Jokke Nevalainen from Dobber released his rankings of European prospects yesterday that has scouting profiles on 45 different European players. Well worth checking out. He has Raymond as the best European skater.

2020 NHL Draft Ranking: European prospects (February 2020)

Thanks for posting that, always good to get a write up on Euro prospects.

This is a kid I had my eye on and was looking for more info on... fits the bill of the forwards Yzerman has drafted so far... also going the NCAA route to allow extra development which we seem to value with this new regime.

https://dobberprospects.com/player/veeti-miettinen/

16. Veeti Miettinen, W – Jr. SM-liiga (K-Espoo) – 5-9, 159 lbs – Draft Range: 30-50​

Jokke Nevalainen: Miettinen broke the Jr. SM-liiga U18 scoring record last season but he had no choice but to return to that league to maintain NCAA eligibility. This season, Miettinen leads the league in goals and points by a wide margin. He is a dominant player who doesn’t have much support around him on a bad team. But he’s doing everything possible to make sure he doesn’t get forgotten even though he’s forced to play in a league that’s beneath him. He has excellent goal-scoring abilities, especially his wrist shot which is deadly, but he’s also a good playmaker. His play without the puck gets often overlooked because of his offensive abilities but he’s a puck-hound who can be used in any situation, including on the penalty kill where he can be a dangerous scoring threat as well.

 

[Christien]

Thanks for posting that, always good to get a write up on Euro prospects.

This is a kid I had my eye on and was looking for more info on... fits the bill of the forwards Yzerman has drafted so far... also going the NCAA route to allow extra development which we seem to value with this new regime.

16. Veeti Miettinen, W – Jr. SM-liiga (K-Espoo) – 5-9, 159 lbs – Draft Range: 30-50​

Jokke Nevalainen: Miettinen broke the Jr. SM-liiga U18 scoring record last season but he had no choice but to return to that league to maintain NCAA eligibility. This season, Miettinen leads the league in goals and points by a wide margin. He is a dominant player who doesn’t have much support around him on a bad team. But he’s doing everything possible to make sure he doesn’t get forgotten even though he’s forced to play in a league that’s beneath him. He has excellent goal-scoring abilities, especially his wrist shot which is deadly, but he’s also a good playmaker. His play without the puck gets often overlooked because of his offensive abilities but he’s a puck-hound who can be used in any situation, including on the penalty kill where he can be a dangerous scoring threat as well.

No problem! Miettinen definitely seems like a player the Wings would be targeting and worth keeping an eye on for sure.

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

It's a new month which means it's time for a new ranking. I've decided to go to a top 62, I think last time it was only a top 31, as there has finally been some separation and I feel like too many good players would have been left off a top 31 list. I decided to do the ranking based on tiers where any player in the tier I would considered to be "equals". Also, the first 9 players are how I would rank the top 9 of the draft and I currently don't have a top 10. As always this list is based off of almost entirely their stats and then compared to the historical data from each league with age and scoring adjustments made. All the stats were from pick224.

Spoiler

Tier 1	Player
1	Alexis Lafreniere	W
Tier 2
2	Quinton Byfield	C
3	Marco Rossi	C
4	Tim Stutzle	C
5	Lucas Raymond	W
Tier 3
6	Cole Perfetti	W
7	Anton Lundell	C
8	Jamie Drysdale	D
9	Alexander Holtz	W
Tier 4
4	Seth Jarvis	F
4	Yarslav Askarov	G
4	Mavrik Bourque	C
4	Connor Zary	C
4	Jan Mysak	W
4	Jeremie Poirier	D
4	Zion Nyback	W
4	Noel Gunler	W
4	Tyson Foerster	C
4	Jacob Perreault	C
4	Lukas Cormier	D
4	Rodion Amirov	F
	Tier 5
5	Veeti Miettinen	F
5	Ryan O'Rourke	D
5	Jake Sanderson	D
5	Ryan Francis	W
5	Dawson Mercer	W
5	Lukas Reichel	W
5	Jack Quinn	W
5	Emil Andrae	D
5	Roni Hirvonen	F
5	Carter Savoie	W
5	Martin Chromiak	F
5	Dylan Holloway	W
Tier 6
6	Alexander Pashin	W
6	Brett Berard	W
6	Joel Blmoqvist	G
6	Luke Evangelista	F
6	Hendrix Lapierre	F
6	Alex Cotton	D
6	Sean Farrell	F
6	Sam Colangelo	F
6	William Villeneuve	D
6	Emil Heineman	F
6	Connor McClennon	F
	Tier 7
7	Jacob Dion	D
7	Michael Benning	D
7	Marat Khusnutdinov	F
7	John-Jason Peterka	F
7	William Wallinder	D
7	Kaiden Guhle	D
7	Tyler Tullio	F
7	Xavier Simoneau	F
7	Kasper Simontaival	F
7	Ridly Greig	F
7	Ozzy Wiesblatt	F
7	Jake Neighbours	F
7	Roby Jarventie	F
7	Anton Johannesson	D
7	Oskar Magnusson	F
7	Thomas Bordeleau	F
7	Justin Sourdif	F
7	Daniil Gushchin	F

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

And just some observations from my list:

• I think this draft is pretty deep compared to the average draft. There were a number of players I left out of my top 62 that would have likely been there in 2018 or 2019. I think players like Pavel Novak, Braden Schneider, Thomas Niederbach, Dmitri Ovchinnikov, Jean-Luc Foudy, Jaromir Pytlick, Jack Finley, Juuso Maenpaa, Tomi Niku, etc. could have been in the tier 6/7s in those drafts.
• I'm not a fan of Heldge Grans whatsoever and that may be my biggest contrarian opinion. His point totals are severely inflated from PP production and he has an extremely difficult time defending at ES. Given where he's ranked on most lists I wouldn't touch him. He's someone that would be a 5th round pick or later for me.
• The biggest riser was Seth Jarvis who had an incredible January. He's now playing at a level that's comparable to that of most top 5/10 picks from the WHL. The second biggest was Chromiak who I had in the 100-228 range. His play in the OHL has been outstanding and given his strong D-1 season has made me a fan once again.
• This draft is full of extremely talented, but small players. Most of the defenceman in my top 62 are under 6'1 and the same can be said for a lot of the forwards. I don't expect someone like Jacob Dion or Anton Johannesson to go in the top 62 so there should be some excellent opportunity for value in the later rounds (I think of the Spence, Nousiainen, and Fensore last year as examples)
• This draft also has a number of very good undrafted d+1, d+2, and d+3 players. Cotton, Oksentyuk, Constantinou, McCourt, Ty and Dylan Jackson, Stepanov, Gogolev, Marushev, and others all have the production to warrant being picked.

 

[Hen Kolland]

It's a new month which means it's time for a new ranking. I've decided to go to a top 62, I think last time it was only a top 31, as there has finally been some separation and I feel like too many good players would have been left off a top 31 list. I decided to do the ranking based on tiers where any player in the tier I would considered to be "equals". Also, the first 9 players are how I would rank the top 9 of the draft and I currently don't have a top 10. As always this list is based off of almost entirely their stats and the compared to the historical data from each league, all info was from pick224.

Spoiler

Tier 1	Player
1	Alexis Lafreniere	W
Tier 2
2	Quinton Byfield	C
3	Marco Rossi	C
4	Tim Stutzle	C
5	Lucas Raymond	W
Tier 3
6	Cole Perfetti	W
7	Anton Lundell	C
8	Jamie Drysdale	D
9	Alexander Holtz	W
Tier 4
4	Seth Jarvis	F
4	Yarslav Askarov	G
4	Mavrik Bourque	C
4	Connor Zary	C
4	Jan Mysak	W
4	Jeremie Poirier	D
4	Zion Nyback	W
4	Noel Gunler	W
4	Tyson Foerster	C
4	Jacob Perreault	C
4	Lukas Cormier	D
4	Rodion Amirov	F
	Tier 5
5	Veeti Miettinen	F
5	Ryan O'Rourke	D
5	Jake Sanderson	D
5	Ryan Francis	W
5	Dawson Mercer	W
5	Lukas Reichel	W
5	Jack Quinn	W
5	Emil Andrae	D
5	Roni Hirvonen	F
5	Carter Savoie	W
5	Martin Chromiak	F
5	Dylan Holloway	W
Tier 6
6	Alexander Pashin	W
6	Brett Berard	W
6	Joel Blmoqvist	G
6	Luke Evangelista	F
6	Hendrix Lapierre	F
6	Alex Cotton	D
6	Sean Farrell	F
6	Sam Colangelo	F
6	William Villeneuve	D
6	Emil Heineman	F
6	Connor McClennon	F
	Tier 7
7	Jacob Dion	D
7	Michael Benning	D
7	Marat Khusnutdinov	F
7	John-Jason Peterka	F
7	William Wallinder	D
7	Kaiden Guhle	D
7	Tyler Tullio	F
7	Xavier Simoneau	F
7	Kasper Simontaival	F
7	Ridly Greig	F
7	Ozzy Wiesblatt	F
7	Jake Neighbours	F
7	Roby Jarventie	F
7	Anton Johannesson	D
7	Oskar Magnusson	F
7	Thomas Bordeleau	F
7	Justin Sourdif	F
7	Daniil Gushchin	F

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

You'll have to explain to me why you have Drysdale at #8 and in tier 3. What are the major grievances with his game?