Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Draft - part II

[NjDevsRR]

Senn was only the second best young goalie in his time in Davos. Late bloomer, yes. But I wouldn't bet he can keep up the trajectory.

Probably not but worthy to keep an eye on.

 

[TBF1972]

You guys are still arguing about Askarov?

We can't afford to use a luxury pick on a goalie in the first round unless he's BY FAR the BPA, we have too many other needs atm.

I loathed it when Lou and Conte wasted firsts on goalies while we had a 25-year old Brodeur but it was at least more understandable then when we were loaded top to bottom.

The draft is not there to cover the roster needs of the moment. The draft is there to cover the roster needs of the future. Looking at Hughes I expected more people getting the lesson. If you evaluate draft prospects versus need look at the prospect pool and the youngest players on the NHL team. The rest of the roster shouldn't have any impact.

 

[StevenToddIves]

Steven sort of hit on how I would like to use 1-2 of those firsts if we trade. Similar to how Jordan Staal went to Carolina at age 23.

W. Nylander is an obvious candidate but wonder who else fits that profile (impact player about to enter his prime and not getting enough minutes or there's a cap crunch).

Toronto is not trading Nylander for futures. If they trade him at all, it's for a top-pairing D... something the Devils lack.

There are a couple of RFAs who may be available this off-season which intrigue me. RW Josh Anderson is a player who intrigues me -- despite an injury-marred and disastrous 2019-20 campaign, he's a legit power F who is just one-year removed from a 27-goal season. Columbus seems to be listening on offers for him, and I think it would take less than a first-round pick to acquire him.

I very much like LD Nikita Zadorov, who is another RFA, rumored to be available out of Colorado after the season. He would immediately become the biggest and most physical D on the Devils, and would be the perfect-stay-at-home pairing, something both PK Subban and Damon Severson have sorely lacked. But again, I think this is a player the Devils could acquire without sacrificing a first-round pick.

Again, it's difficult to predict who will become available via trade by the draft in June. What if Vancouver decides to make big offer for UFA Taylor Hall? All of a sudden they would be in a cap crunch and a player like Brock Boeser could hit the trade market. Or what if St. Louis re-signs Alex Pietrangelo to a max deal? Maybe they decide to make a Jaden Schwartz available.

As for now, the Devils need to plan for using all three of their first-rounders.

 

[Forge]

I never realized how poor the recent history has been for teams drafting three times in the first round.

Washington crushed it in 2004, but the rest of them aren't great, to be honest. Edmonton's in 07 probably the most similar to how I imagine our draft spots shake out this year.

Calgary, 2013: Sean Monahan (No. 6), Emile Poirier (No. 22), Morgan Klimchuk (No. 28)

Columbus, 2013: Alexander Wennberg (No. 14), Kerby Rychel (No. 19), Marko Dano (No. 27)

Ottawa, 2011: Mika Zibanejad (No. 6), Stefan Noesen (No. 21), Matt Puempel (No. 24)

Florida, 2010: Erik Gudbranson (No. 3), Nick Bjugstad (No. 19), Quinton Howden (No. 25)

Edmonton, 2007: Sam Gagner (No. 6), Alex Plante (No. 15), Riley Nash (No. 21)

Washington, 2004: Alex Ovechkin (No. 1), Jeff Schultz (No. 27), Mike Green (No. 29)

Los Angeles 2003: Dustin Brown (No. 13), Brian Boyle (No. 26), Jeff Tambellini (No. 27)

Washington, 2002: Steve Eminger (No. 12), Alexander Semin (No. 13), Boyd Gordon (No. 17)

 

[Nubmer6]

I never realized how poor the recent history has been for teams drafting three times in the first round.

Washington crushed it in 2004, but the rest of them aren't great, to be honest. Edmonton's in 07 probably the most similar to how I imagine our draft spots shake out this year.

Calgary, 2013: Sean Monahan (No. 6), Emile Poirier (No. 22), Morgan Klimchuk (No. 28)

Columbus, 2013: Alexander Wennberg (No. 14), Kerby Rychel (No. 19), Marko Dano (No. 27)

Ottawa, 2011: Mika Zibanejad (No. 6), Stefan Noesen (No. 21), Matt Puempel (No. 24)

Florida, 2010: Erik Gudbranson (No. 3), Nick Bjugstad (No. 19), Quinton Howden (No. 25)

Edmonton, 2007: Sam Gagner (No. 6), Alex Plante (No. 15), Riley Nash (No. 21)

Washington, 2004: Alex Ovechkin (No. 1), Jeff Schultz (No. 27), Mike Green (No. 29)

Los Angeles 2003: Dustin Brown (No. 13), Brian Boyle (No. 26), Jeff Tambellini (No. 27)

Washington, 2002: Steve Eminger (No. 12), Alexander Semin (No. 13), Boyd Gordon (No. 17)

A lot of those triplets involve later picks. Our draft positions are probably closest to Edmonton 2007, but may well be even better, and this is supposed to be a deep draft. By winning % right now, we have picks 6, 11, and 20.

 

[NJDevs26]

The draft is not there to cover the roster needs of the moment. The draft is there to cover the roster needs of the future. Looking at Hughes I expected more people getting the lesson. If you evaluate draft prospects versus need look at the prospect pool and the youngest players on the NHL team. The rest of the roster shouldn't have any impact.

What does Hughes have to do with anything? He wasn't drafted on need, he was drafted cause he was the consensus #1 pick.

This isn't about short-term or NHL roster needs, obviously short-term means crap in terms of the team being competitive. We need centers beyond Hughes and Nico short and long-term, especially if Hughes ever gets permanently shifted to wing. We need more wings short and long-term, especially if we wind up trading Palm/Gusev. We need defensemen short and long-term, even if we've drafted a bunch recently there's still no indication any of them will be NHL factors.

Goalie is literally the position we need the least atm given our young starter and at least another viable prospect or two, and it's the position with the most voilatility in the draft, where you have a better chance of finding starters in later rounds than you do at other positions. Given all that, the goalie better be the BPA BY A TON if you draft one in the first round. I don't see Askarov as being a BPA by a ton in the mid first-round when he's not looking quite the sure thing he did before the Worlds.

 

[Pitaya]

A lot of those triplets involve later picks. Our draft positions are probably closest to Edmonton 2007, but may well be even better, and this is supposed to be a deep draft. By winning % right now, we have picks 6, 11, and 20.

Id like to think we move one of the later two in a package for a semi-proven talent

We cant draft every pick we get, thats just going to prolong this rebuild further

 

[TBF1972]

What does Hughes have to do with anything? He wasn't drafted on need, he was drafted cause he was the consensus #1 pick.

This isn't about short-term or NHL roster needs, obviously short-term means crap in terms of the team being competitive. We need centers beyond Hughes and Nico short and long-term, especially if Hughes ever gets permanently shifted to wing. We need more wings short and long-term, especially if we wind up trading Palm/Gusev. We need defensemen short and long-term, even if we've drafted a bunch recently there's still no indication any of them will be NHL factors.

Goalie is literally the position we need the least atm given our young starter and at least another viable prospect or two, and it's the position with the most voilatility in the draft, where you have a better chance of finding starters in later rounds than you do at other positions. Given all that, the goalie better be the BPA BY A TON if you draft one in the first round. I don't see Askarov as being a BPA by a ton in the mid first-round when he's not looking quite the sure thing he did before the Worlds.

I mentioned Hughes not because of positional need. I mentioned him because even as 1OA he was not ready to make an immediate impact. Later draft picks have an even lesser impact short term. So a draft pick will hardly ever fill a hole in the current line-up.

 

[MichaelJ]

So, 3 1sts?

Draft with the first two unless blown away by an offer. Make the second available but only as part of a package for a foundational piece, preferably on defense.

 

[Oneiro]

One of you guys or one of the reporters mentioned how at some point the 50 contract limit is going to come into play. Wonder if they'll repeat the same strategy of trading down in the later rounds for multiple picks.

 

[Zippy316]

One of you guys or one of the reporters mentioned how at some point the 50 contract limit is going to come into play. Wonder if they'll repeat the same strategy of trading down in the later rounds for multiple picks.

I imagine it's the opposite. Devils probably try to move up for better assets where possible.

And for later round picks, expect to see a lot of college UFAs, KHL guys, and goaltenders that are on a longer timeline.

 

[Forge]

I imagine it's the opposite. Devils probably try to move up for better assets where possible.

And for later round picks, expect to see a lot of college UFAs, KHL guys, and goaltenders that are on a longer timeline.

this is what I was thinking. I could certainly see us packaging Arizona's + Vancouver's firsts to get into the top 10 or something and have two top 10 picks. In this draft, honestly, I'd rather have that then probably 2 in the top 10 and another in the top 25 or so.

 

[nugg]

I'm just really hoping we can draft Drysdale and Quinn. Anything else is gravy.
We need top pairing D-men, and how else can they really be had?

 

[glenwo2]

Food for thought :

Filip Bratt at eliteprospects.com

We can have all the unicorns!!!

 

[nugg]

Food for thought :

Filip Bratt at eliteprospects.com

We can have all the unicorns!!!

A 5 foot 7 defenseman. Maybe not, but maybe worth a late round stab

 

[glenwo2]

A 5 foot 7 defenseman. Maybe not, but maybe worth a late round stab

It says he's just 17 so maybe he'll have a growth spurt or something and get taller....

Would definitely take a chance on him with a 5th rounder or 6th....

 

[Forge]

Big Z for Vancouver's 1 at the draft table. Do we do it? Zadorov is an RFA, 24 years old. Colorado may have issues keeping him due to the expansion draft.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Big Z for Vancouver's 1 at the draft table. Do we do it? Zadorov is an RFA, 24 years old. Colorado may have issues keeping him due to the expansion draft.

No. Zadorov isn’t really that good to trade a first for.

 

[OmNomNom]

I never realized how poor the recent history has been for teams drafting three times in the first round.

Washington crushed it in 2004, but the rest of them aren't great, to be honest. Edmonton's in 07 probably the most similar to how I imagine our draft spots shake out this year.

Calgary, 2013: Sean Monahan (No. 6), Emile Poirier (No. 22), Morgan Klimchuk (No. 28)

Columbus, 2013: Alexander Wennberg (No. 14), Kerby Rychel (No. 19), Marko Dano (No. 27)

Ottawa, 2011: Mika Zibanejad (No. 6), Stefan Noesen (No. 21), Matt Puempel (No. 24)

Florida, 2010: Erik Gudbranson (No. 3), Nick Bjugstad (No. 19), Quinton Howden (No. 25)

Edmonton, 2007: Sam Gagner (No. 6), Alex Plante (No. 15), Riley Nash (No. 21)

Washington, 2004: Alex Ovechkin (No. 1), Jeff Schultz (No. 27), Mike Green (No. 29)

Los Angeles 2003: Dustin Brown (No. 13), Brian Boyle (No. 26), Jeff Tambellini (No. 27)

Washington, 2002: Steve Eminger (No. 12), Alexander Semin (No. 13), Boyd Gordon (No. 17)

forgot to include the bruins 2015 draft - you prob didn't include bc it's fairly "recent", but they whiffed on senyshyn and zboril

 

[Forge]

forgot to include the bruins 2015 draft - you prob didn't include bc it's fairly "recent", but they whiffed on senyshyn and zboril

Oh, actually I pulled it from an athletic article that was talking about how the 15 Bruins first round was not great lol. I forgot to add it back in

 

[TBF1972]

One of you guys or one of the reporters mentioned how at some point the 50 contract limit is going to come into play. Wonder if they'll repeat the same strategy of trading down in the later rounds for multiple picks.

I could definitely see move a back trade with one of the first round picks to regain picks in the second or third round.

 

[TBF1972]

It says he's just 17 so maybe he'll have a growth spurt or something and get taller....

Would definitely take a chance on him with a 5th rounder or 6th....

So Anthony Brodeur was a good pick?

 

[Kshahdoo]

Id like to think we move one of the later two in a package for a semi-proven talent

We cant draft every pick we get, thats just going to prolong this rebuild further

Will Minnesota trade Kaprizov for a couple of firsts, I wonder...

 

[FooteBahl]

I could definitely see move a back trade with one of the first round picks to regain picks in the second or third round.

I hope not. We don’t need more quantity, we need quality. It seems like we’re loaded with middle 6 forwards and mid-pairing defensemen in the system. We need blue-chip prospects.

 

[Spoiled Bratt]

I would definitely trade up to get another pick in the top #10. For example, if Rossi falls like Caufield did last year, I’m doing everything in my power to move up. Same thing with Perfetti since his defensive game and his overall drive might cause him to slip a little.

With that said, I don’t known if I want Vancouver’s pick this year or their unprotected 1st next year. They’re not a lock by any means to make the playoffs next year and they have a lot of injury prone players as well as question marks between the pipes.