NBA 2020 NBA Playoffs Thread II

Marc the Habs Fan

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Butler played the whole game basically, what a virtuoso performance.

I still think the Lakers will win this series but a Game 7 would be delightful...
 

Terry Yake

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welp, they've let the heat back in it and all the momentum is on their side

and AD looks hurt as hell. they really might blow this
 

TeddyBare

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Lebron was absolutely LIVID with Morris on that Switch.

Iguadola came for up for the pick, which is pretty routine pick and roll
Then Morris decided to double igoudola and and not switch onto Butler??????????????

In what world would you not cover jimmy butler and let him walk to the basket.

Definitely Bench him if you were LA
 
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Danny Green is pissing me off. What a garbage player, man.

Also, I thought Morris' pass to AD was the right move. AD was pushed so he couldn't catch it.
 

Terry Yake

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butler deserves MVP regardless of who wins the series

he's singlehandedly winning games for the heat while playing every single minute. just incredible
 

jcs0218

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butler deserves MVP regardless of who wins the series

he's singlehandedly winning games for the heat while playing every single minute. just incredible
That has only happened one time, in 1969.

When Jerry West won it but lost the series in 7 games.

Butler won't win unless the Heat win.
 

Del Preston

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LeBron deserved the MVP in 2015 despite the Cavs losing. Iguodala getting it was a tragedy.
 

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It's amazing what Butler and the Heat are doing. Lakers are by far the more talented team (with 2 top 5 players leading the way) and they are making this a series.

Butler absolutely deserves MVP regardless if the Heat lose the series.
 

CokenoPepsi

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Damn if the Heat had been fully healthy who knows what happens... I imagine Lakers will blow them out Sunday but who knows.

LeBron passed off to Green of all people...he just isn't the guy you want with the last possession game on the line.

He great, but I just don't think he compares to Jordan he isn't on his level....

The only arguments I see for him are silly narratives like "10 finals in 18 seasons" or "championships with three teams" as if that matters

I think he finishes top 3 though
 

FiveTacos

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LeBron passed off to Green of all people...he just isn't the guy you want with the last possession game on the line.

He's a pretty good shooter, and he was WIIIIIDE open. I actually don't have a big problem with that particular play. I know the Heat wanted to make sure someone else took the shot besides Lebron, but I doubt even they wanted to give up something quite that open.

That being said, I do think it still reflects a deficiency for Lebron that's always kept me from ranking him as the best of the best. Some of the other greats known as assassins just seem to be more deadly in last possession situations, whereas Lebron just either drives to the hole or shoots a 3. Guys like MJ, Kobe, Bird, even Magic ... in those closing seconds it just seemed like they'd always get off a pretty makeable shot one way or another.

I don't doubt that some of those other guys would have also passed in the same situation to someone really that open, but I also feel like some of those guys could have manufactured something for themselves a little better than Lebron often does. MJ and Kobe were quick enough to dribble away from double teams (or could just take and make really tough shots), Bird just knew how to get open (and if not he'd just hit one right in your face), Magic was a great late-game improvising shot maker, etc.. Lebron as great as he is, that's just not his forte. There are a number of guys who I'd pick over Lebron in a last-possession scenario.

The only arguments I see for him are silly narratives like "10 finals in 18 seasons" or "championships with three teams" as if that matters

Lots of Finals appearances isn't silly ... despite playing in a weaker East, a number of times he made it to those Finals despite supporting casts that frankly shouldn't have been good enough to get there. I also don't have a problem with his W-L record in those Finals, since many times he was not the favorite despite clearly being the best player in the series. I think he definitely added to his legacy even without winning a bunch more titles. I mean, if KD doesn't coat-tail, Lebron almost certainly wins another 1-2 titles ... it's not a knock on him that a different superstar decided to join a 70+ win opposing team.

Championships with 3 teams is a bit less meaningful, just given that free agency has made it possible. There's no doubt that some other greats could have done the same if they'd played in a league where player movement was as easy as it is now.
 
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Terry Yake

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i have no problem with the last play

green is supposed to be a "3 pt specialist" and he was wide open. kuzma or kcp should've taken that shot though, because green has been pure trash all season and there was no way he was making that
 

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