Discussion in 'Basketball' started by Avs_19, Oct 15, 2020.
The fancy stats didn't work with Hinkie so be curious to see how they do with Morey.
He never got the chance to see if it worked. Was practically forced out right before they drafted Simmons and then Mr. Big Collar turned it all to crap. Hinkie GM'd as if he was a member of this board, tank until you find your McDavid or Matthews. No one wants to be in the 6-11 range losing in the 1st round or just missing the playoffs. Be bad until your gather enough high picks that you're good again. You especially have to do that in the NBA given how star driven it is. Hinkie just wasn't shy and didn't lie about what he was doing and Silver and the media didn't like that. Didn't help that he was doing it with a banner franchise. If he does that in Minnesota or Charlotte the Colangelos are probably never forced on the team.
Hinkie was about throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck and his endless cycle of the bottom of the roster did unearth some actual NBA players (Covington is one off the top of my head). It was also about playing the lottery until you got those 2 or 3 stars. Not every one of MCW, Noel, Saric, Embiid, Okafor and Simmons were supposed to pan out in his plan, but if 2 or 3 of them did then it worked. He sold high on MCW and collected tons of assets that the Sixers still have to this day. And the story goes he wanted Porzingis over Okafor but KP wouldn't play for the Sixers so they took Okafor.
You don't know how it plays out if he never leaves. Does he trade Noel or Okafor before they're worth nothing? Does he make the Fultz trade (doubtful, IMO)? Or the Butler and Harris trades? (These were Brand and I personally didn't mind either.) Does he stick with Brown as long as Brand did?
What offended me the most about was Silver pushed Sixers to hire some charlatan to run the team.
They needed someone who was widely respected in basketball to run the team and get them back to normal. Has relationships with almost every player as a result of his role with Team USA (nevermind the fact that he turned the program around) Player agents were literally declining Hinkies calls (even the PA's representing middling players) and other owners were lobbying Silver to get Hinkie out.
I don't get how Jerry Colangelo is a charlatan? He has 50 years of experience, basically built the Suns from scratch and over the years had some really good teams. Should he have hired his son? Maybe not, but his son also wasn't some shmuck off the street. What he did when they fired Bryan was wrong but the point is, Colangelo is one of the most respected men in basketball.
His son was definitely a schmuck.
Man you literally have the strongest opinion about every little thing and refuse to back it up with anything or defend it. Just continue with the “I’m right you’re wrong” condescending attitude.
Elaborate? Colangelo isn't Jerry West but there have been far worse GMs. You don't win 2 NBA Exec of the Year awards by accident.
At least someone else noticed this
Freaking Knicks can't get anything right.
That's the bar we are setting for GMs now?
Explain how he is a shmuck then?
Also he failed in Phoenix and Toronto. His employment with Philly was a complete nepotism.
Yea the burner thing wasn't the greatest but that has 0 to do with his abilities as a GM.
How exactly did he fail? He built the Suns into a consistent championship contender and built a decent foundation with the Raptors, even making the playoffs twice and winning a division title. Sure, a title is the ultimate goal and he wasn't able to get his team there but he built some damn good teams.
They were "respected" unlike Hinkie who was a "disgrace"
Won nothing with Steve Nash.
Masai Ujiri came in, tore it down and built a title team.
NBA returns next month. Not great for teams that played deep into the playoffs but only having to go two months without basketball is good for the fans.
I don't see how this is good. They're rushing it back in a covid era. SHouldn't teams have time to rest and recuperate?
They stand to lose half a billion dollars if they push the season to a mid January start. Money talks.
Star seems a big generous a description
Nice. Free agency begins in prime time two days after the draft. Only a two day waiting period for signings as well instead of the usual week.
Interesting. Paul's contract is still scary but he managed to stay healthy and was great last season. Assuming all it costs is something like Rubio and Oubre then it could be worth the gamble for the Suns, even though that last year of his deal will probably be ugly. Good veteran leader and playmaker for their young core of Booker, Ayton, and Bridges.
Won't this hurt LeBron's feelings?
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