Prospect Info: 2020 Los Angeles Kings Prospect Rankings #33

Who is the Kings #33 Prospect?


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King'sPawn

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1. Quinton Byfield, F - 87.1%
2. Gabriel Vilardi, F - 85.9%
3. Alex Turcotte, F - 90.2%
4. Tobias Bjornfot, D - 44.6%
5. Arthur Kaliyev, F - 76.6%
6. Samuel Fagemo, F - 54.8%
7. Mikey Anderson, D - 51.0%
8. Tyler Madden, F - 51.1%
9. Rasmus Kupari, F - 55.2%
10. Helge Grans, D - 43.9%
11. Akil Thomas, F - 45.6%
12. Kale Clague, D - 40.8%
13. Jaret Anderson-Dolan, F - 54.2%
14. Brock Faber, D - 46.8%
15. Kim Nousiainen, D - 30.4%
16. Cole Hults, D - 41.1%
17. Jordan Spence, D - 44.9%
18. Kasper Simontaival, F - 32.1%
19. Aidan Dudas, F - 35.3%
20. Lukas Parik, G - 37.9%
21. Martin Chromiak, F - 33.3%
22. Jacob Moverare, D - 34%
23. Sean Durzi, D - 34%
24. Jacob Ingham, G - 45.1%
25. Alex Laferriere, F - 54.9%
26. Aatu Jamsen, F - 22.9%
27. Matthew Villalta, G - 47.6%
28. Ben Meehan, D - 45.7%
29. Andre Lee, F - 30.4%
30. Austin Strand, D - 31.4%
31. Juho Markkanen, G - 32.4%
32. Mikey Eyssimont, F - 30.2%

Nobody else to add!

But let's complete this list and talk prospect!
 

Token

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But let's complete this list and talk prospect!

Can I tempt you into a follow up classifier for; Blue-Chip, A, B, C, and D level prospects?

BC - Star Player/Franchise Player
A - Top pair/Top 6/Starter 1A/B
B - Top 4/ Mid 6/Backup
C - Bottom pair/Bottom 6/Emergency Backup
D - AHL/ECHL lifer
 

Basilisk

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I'm wondering if any team in the league would be willing to give us a 1st round pick in exchange for the bottom half of our 40 prospects....i.e., #21 - #40 ..... Would it be worth it? They'd be getting Chromiak & Durzi & Moverare, et. al. while we'd be getting greater manageability through halving our prospect pool so as to not let some potential 30-goal scorer slip away for merely a 5th rounder (or less!).

If you were managing a team with a bare cupboard for prospect depth, would you do it? For a handful of NHL teams, a guy like Chromiak would be listed in their top 5. I'm just sayin'......
 

kilowatt

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I'm wondering if any team in the league would be willing to give us a 1st round pick in exchange for the bottom half of our 40 prospects....i.e., #21 - #40 ..... Would it be worth it? They'd be getting Chromiak & Durzi & Moverare, et. al. while we'd be getting greater manageability through halving our prospect pool so as to not let some potential 30-goal scorer slip away for merely a 5th rounder (or less!).

If you were managing a team with a bare cupboard for prospect depth, would you do it? For a handful of NHL teams, a guy like Chromiak would be listed in their top 5. I'm just sayin'......

Chromiak and Durzi are alright but no one is going to trade their first round pick for them. No one else listed after 20 are of significance, and Chromiak fell to the fifth round. Someone might trade a second for Durzi and Chromiak, but I doubt it.
 

Basilisk

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Chromiak and Durzi are alright but no one is going to trade their first round pick for them. No one else listed after 20 are of significance, and Chromiak fell to the fifth round. Someone might trade a second for Durzi and Chromiak, but I doubt it.


Not even Seattle (no prospects) or Pittsburgh (currently, worst prospects in the league)...? There's at least a couple very decent goaltending prospects in there, a defenseman with NHL experience (Brickley), plus a few guys with size (Lee & Sodergran & Strand). It might be worth it!!!
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Not even Seattle (no prospects) or Pittsburgh (currently, worst prospects in the league)...? There's at least a couple very decent goaltending prospects in there, a defenseman with NHL experience (Brickley), plus a few guys with size (Lee & Sodergran & Strand). It might be worth it!!!

They're not going to trade a higher-value mystery box for our lower-pick mystery box.

Once the Kings find out what they have in these guys it's almost certain some will be shopped since there just isn't enough space. If Chromiak, for example, is a steal of a 5th and we can't find a spot for him, then maybe someone takes him for a higher pick. But if I'm a GM, why would I gamble a high pick on someone I could have had 4 or more times for free?

I get what you're saying in that teams can start to target specific needs and we have an excess so it makes sense that we'd have something to offer. I just think you're overvaluing our lotto tickets.
 

Token

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I’m pretty sure Luc and Dave Taylor would be chuckling just about now on this nonsense ...
 

tbrown33

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I'm wondering if any team in the league would be willing to give us a 1st round pick in exchange for the bottom half of our 40 prospects....i.e., #21 - #40 ..... Would it be worth it? They'd be getting Chromiak & Durzi & Moverare, et. al. while we'd be getting greater manageability through halving our prospect pool so as to not let some potential 30-goal scorer slip away for merely a 5th rounder (or less!).

If you were managing a team with a bare cupboard for prospect depth, would you do it? For a handful of NHL teams, a guy like Chromiak would be listed in their top 5. I'm just sayin'......

Am I reading this right? You're suggesting a 20 for 1 deal?
 

King'sPawn

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Can I tempt you into a follow up classifier for; Blue-Chip, A, B, C, and D level prospects?

BC - Star Player/Franchise Player
A - Top pair/Top 6/Starter 1A/B
B - Top 4/ Mid 6/Backup
C - Bottom pair/Bottom 6/Emergency Backup
D - AHL/ECHL lifer

I'd be happy to, but could you clarify?

Do you mean have a poll on where the cutoff is for each? Or were you asking my personal opinions?
 

Token

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I'd be happy to, but could you clarify?

Do you mean have a poll on where the cutoff is for each? Or were you asking my personal opinions?
Oh, definitely both, but the intent was to involve the hive mind in nitpicking if Björnfot and Turcotte are just A or Blue Chip ;)
 
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SufferingSelfCreated

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Am I reading this right? You're suggesting a 20 for 1 deal?
I think he's just spitballin. I do think we are likely to trade away some these Forwards. We have too many. If we play better than expected next year,I wouldn't be surprised if we move a couple in a deal for a top 4 D-man.
 

Lt Dan

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I think he's just spitballin. I do think we are likely to trade away some these Forwards. We have too many. If we play better than expected next year,I wouldn't be surprised if we move a couple in a deal for a top 4 D-man.
Even so, teams have contract limits.

If even a reasonable deal was to be had, I don't think any team not named Seattle could take on more than three contracts without sending some back
 

lumbergh

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I think he's just spitballin. I do think we are likely to trade away some these Forwards. We have too many. If we play better than expected next year,I wouldn't be surprised if we move a couple in a deal for a top 4 D-man.
But we already traded away Brad Morrison!
 
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kilowatt

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Not even Seattle (no prospects) or Pittsburgh (currently, worst prospects in the league)...? There's at least a couple very decent goaltending prospects in there, a defenseman with NHL experience (Brickley), plus a few guys with size (Lee & Sodergran & Strand). It might be worth it!!!

Would you take 20 pennies for a dollar?
 
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Basilisk

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Would you take 20 pennies for a dollar?


LoL, is that dollar from the top 5 of the bushell of dollars, or the bottom 5? How shiny are the pennies? Is one or more of the pennies actually copper-plated gold? Is the dollar from Zimbabwe? Are we underwater?

And I REALLY hate when I put forth some sort of analogy and some smart@ss immediately claims it's a "bad analogy" and then proceeds to "splain" to me why it's a "bad analogy" ......so I'll do no splainin'......but, yeah, I will say........ BAD ANALOGY!!!



Remember when Vegas came into the league and immediately became the runner-up for the Stanley Cup? That made them pick 2nd to last in the 1st round. If I was the GM of a brand new team, a team with almost zero prospect depth, and had to pick 2nd to last in the 1st round, getting 20 guys instead of 1 would be real, real attractive to me......

BTW.....Vegas did, indeed, end up trading their 2nd-to-last 1st round pick that year!!!
 

Ziggy Stardust

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You guys think 20 John Zeilers are worth a David Pastrnak or Claude Giroux or Corey Perry?

Also funny that the resident clown doesn't acknowledge that Vegas dealt the 30th pick in 2018 for a player who was eventually flipped for Max Pacioretty, and that player, Tomas Tatar, just scored 61 points in 68 games. How does that equate to trading a late first round pick for a pile of garbage?

I feel like you have to bang your head against the wall repeatedly in order to make sense of Basilisk's posts.
 
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Lt Dan

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I am definitely not a Kings fan, just checked on this thread because I have some prospects from my sim team in this list.

My first thought was "holy crap"
Well thank you!

Since there is not much else to talk about, do you agree with this fan generated list?
Would you move certain players up or down?
Is there one you would move in an L shape, like the knight in chess?
 

kilowatt

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LoL, is that dollar from the top 5 of the bushell of dollars, or the bottom 5? How shiny are the pennies? Is one or more of the pennies actually copper-plated gold? Is the dollar from Zimbabwe? Are we underwater?

And I REALLY hate when I put forth some sort of analogy and some smart@ss immediately claims it's a "bad analogy" and then proceeds to "splain" to me why it's a "bad analogy" ......so I'll do no splainin'......but, yeah, I will say........ BAD ANALOGY!!!



Remember when Vegas came into the league and immediately became the runner-up for the Stanley Cup? That made them pick 2nd to last in the 1st round. If I was the GM of a brand new team, a team with almost zero prospect depth, and had to pick 2nd to last in the 1st round, getting 20 guys instead of 1 would be real, real attractive to me......

BTW.....Vegas did, indeed, end up trading their 2nd-to-last 1st round pick that year!!!

There might not be a single person in the entire world that agrees with you, which is really impressive.
 

King'sPawn

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Oh, definitely both, but the intent was to involve the hive mind in nitpicking if Björnfot and Turcotte are just A or Blue Chip ;)

I can probably figure out a poll on where we cut off the tiers. I'll wait till the list is complete!
 
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