Red Sox/MLB 2020 Hot Stove VIII - Mookie and Price to the Dodgers ( developing )

[N o o d l e s]

• Some of the top outfield prospects in the 2020-21 international draft class are profiled by Baseball America’s Ben Badler, who also details which teams are expected to sign these players on July 2. The Reds, Pirates, Red Sox, and Rangers are all thought to have seven-figure bonuses lined up for four players from the Dominican Republic, though the Astros are reportedly ready to pay what may be the biggest bonus given to any player in the 2020-21 class — a deal in the neighborhood of $4MM to 21-year-old Cuban outfielder Pedro Leon. Because of his age, Leon is already eligible to sign, though he will wait until the opening of the next July 2 window because most teams have exhausted most or all of their funds from their 2019-20 international signing pools. The int’l market will take on added importance for the Astros over the next two years, as the club’s pipeline of top young talent will be limited after losing their top two picks in both the 2020 and 2021 amateur drafts as part of their punishment for the sign-stealing scandal.

 

[CDJ]

I do rly like that deal for the angels, I think Stripling is underrated

 

[Pia8988]

So Manfred (yes he works for the owners), is going to black ball Cohen from buying a team for not giving into the dumb shit damands of the Wilpons. The other owners should be shipping Wilpon to the curb. You don't get to sell your team and keep control. Absolutely idiotic shit.

Edit - for those who don't know. The Wilpons want to sell the team but keep control over it for 5 years. That may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard and the fact the MLB and other MLB owners will side with that is embarrassing.

 

[Gator Mike]

 

[CDJ]

muahahahahahaha

I’m here to watch the world burn

 

[N o o d l e s]

Honestly MIN’s farm system is loaded too so this isn’t a bad thing necessarily

 

[LouJersey]

So Manfred (yes he works for the owners), is going to black ball Cohen from buying a team for not giving into the dumb **** damands of the Wilpons. The other owners should be shipping Wilpon to the curb. You don't get to sell your team and keep control. Absolutely idiotic ****.

Edit - for those who don't know. The Wilpons want to sell the team but keep control over it for 5 years. That may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard and the fact the MLB and other MLB owners will side with that is embarrassing.

Done with going to games to support them. My five games a year may not matter but I hope another five thousand fans do the same as me

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

On a scale of Shea Hillenbrand to Wil Cordero, just how much of a jerk does Verdugo project to be?

Even ignoring the obvious questionable actions: garbage tats, trash beard, general bro demeanor. I'm not optimistic.

 

[Smitty93]

I don't understand why the Twins part of the deal would change. Trading Graterol for Maeda makes a lot more sense if they don't think Graterol's going to be a starter. Otherwise, that seems like a horrible deal for the Twins. Maeda's value isn't going to magically increase. If anything, the Dodgers would be responsible for making up whatever else Bloom wants.

Honestly, I'm here for the deal falling apart for two reasons:

(1) I didn't like the value and I don't think that's the best deal they could get
(2) it'd be hilarious to watch the baseball world burn down

 

[Gator Mike]

Trade back on...

 

[Pia8988]

Never expected it to fall through. Mookie means too much, but I don't think they'll get anything significant added

 

[CDJ]

One thing I saw on graterol’s arm earlier is that the Sox do not think he can handle a starters workload in the near term. What that means to me is that there is a chance that changes down the line with a shoulder strengthening program

there’s also a chance his arm gets held together with chewing gum and rubber bands


Such is life when you have a 101 mph sinker and 90 mph slider I guess

 

[RockLobster]

Yeah I’m wondering why it would be Minnesota that the Sox would be getting extra from.

Ideally (IF they feel they have to trade him), Verdugo + Downs/Ruiz/Gonsolin is what I’m hoping for. They can throw in Graterol too, sure, but the Red Sox need two high-end pieces, at minimum, for Mookie and Price @ 50% retained.

And I think I’m with some others here on the Verdugo incident. Doesn’t seem like he did anything other than (likely?) being a dumb, drunk, college kid. A mistake to just stand by? Sure, but I’m not sure it is something to derail him forever.

 

[Ludwig Fell Down]

So Manfred (yes he works for the owners), is going to black ball Cohen from buying a team for not giving into the dumb **** damands of the Wilpons. The other owners should be shipping Wilpon to the curb. You don't get to sell your team and keep control. Absolutely idiotic ****.

Edit - for those who don't know. The Wilpons want to sell the team but keep control over it for 5 years. That may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard and the fact the MLB and other MLB owners will side with that is embarrassing.

It is embarrassing indeed. The Wilpons are way over-leveraged and their demands are insane. The other owners should have stepped in and stopped the nonsense. The sale makes perfect sense for the Mets and for baseball.

 

[Gator Mike]

Yeah I’m wondering why it would be Minnesota that the Sox would be getting extra from.

Exactly.

The Red Sox want Verdugo and a near Major League ready SP with middle of the rotation upside. I doubt they care where the Dodgers get that pitcher from.

Edit: Maybe the deal is Betts and Price for Verdugo and Maeda, and the Red Sox are the ones flipping Maeda to Minnesota for Graterol???

 

[Gator Mike]

I don't understand this...

 

[RockLobster]

Exactly.

The Red Sox want Verdugo and a near Major League ready SP with middle of the rotation upside. I doubt they care where the Dodgers get that pitcher from.

Edit: Maybe the deal is Betts and Price for Verdugo and Maeda, and the Red Sox are the ones flipping Maeda to Minnesota for Graterol???

Yeah, it’s all a little strange and bewildering.

Like...if the Red Sox don’t value Graterol as a SP now, and they want a near-ML ready SP as part of the package, then...well...

 

[CDJ]

I don't understand this...

you may be correct in your post above, perhaps we are the ones getting Maeda and flipping him

 

[EvilDead]

Done with going to games to support them. My five games a year may not matter but I hope another five thousand fans do the same as me

The Mets still draw 5000 fans for games?

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

I'm still hoping for implosion.

 

[Shaun]

does mookie sign for 10/400 if mr linda offers it?

 

[Gator Mike]

does mookie sign for 10/400 if mr linda offers it?

Personally, I think Mookie would take that as an indication that his market will be higher than he thought.

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

I remember when the rumors started everyone was excited about how loaded the Dodgers are with prospects. Now they won't even part with a single one to make the trade happen lmao.

 

[CDJ]

does mookie sign for 10/400 if mr linda offers it?

He won’t do it now but he may in the offseason

I doubt it happens but they don’t have to worry about being penalized

 

[LouJersey]

The Mets still draw 5000 fans for games?

hahaha only until August