2020 HHOF Class (Iginla, Hossa, Wilson, Lowe, St-Pierre, Holland)

[Styles]

Top candidates for Hockey Hall of Fame Class of 2020

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[robsenz]

reading the tsn headlines...If Hossa gets in before Alfie...that's a crime. And I love Hossa

 

[Rabid Ranger]

reading the tsn headlines...If Hossa gets in before Alfie...that's a crime. And I love Hossa

Why? Hossa has a better case. Honestly, not a great crop aside from Iginla. Curtis Joseph. Lol. Get that out of here.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

reading the tsn headlines...If Hossa gets in before Alfie...that's a crime. And I love Hossa

Whether people like it or not, Stanley Cups make a difference to the voters.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Alfredsson doesn't deserve to be in imo. He was a good, even really good player but was he really great, or is it because he was the face of the franchise for so long? If he plays for 3-4 different teams I don't think he's in the conversation. Hossa however was the superior player. Weak year this year either way sans Iginla.

 

[HSF]

Alfredsson doesn't deserve to be in imo. He was a good, even really good player but was he really great, or is it because he was the face of the franchise for so long? If he plays for 3-4 different teams I don't think he's in the conversation. Hossa however was the superior player. Weak year this year either way sans Iginla.

Hossa wasn't a superior player imo

 

[Kranix]

Rooting for Mogilny and Fleury.
Iggy's a lock. And a bum!

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Alfredsson better finally get the respect he deserves. He was the best player out of all the players eligible besides Iginla.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Alfredsson doesn't deserve to be in imo. He was a good, even really good player but was he really great, or is it because he was the face of the franchise for so long? If he plays for 3-4 different teams I don't think he's in the conversation. Hossa however was the superior player. Weak year this year either way sans Iginla.

Hossa was definitely not the superior player. Slightly better goal scorer but overall Alfredsson was the better offensively of the two, and was the team's best player for a decade. Hossa had the highest scoring rate on his team once in his entire career, Alfredsson did 9 times.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Hossa was definitely not the superior player. Slightly better goal scorer but overall Alfredsson was the better offensively of the two, and was the team's best player for a decade. Hossa had the highest scoring rate on his team once in his entire career, Alfredsson did 9 times.

Read yesterday over a 13 year period, he was 3rd or 4th overall in points in that time span, behind thornton and iginla I think.
Let alone being in 5 Olympics, only Selanne has more I think. Also in IHHF HHOF, its not the NHL HHOF ,its the hockey hall of fame.

 

[robsenz]

Alfredsson doesn't deserve to be in imo. He was a good, even really good player but was he really great, or is it because he was the face of the franchise for so long? If he plays for 3-4 different teams I don't think he's in the conversation. Hossa however was the superior player. Weak year this year either way sans Iginla.

Both were outstanding 2 way players. Alfie was always superior when they played together. Alfie outscored Hossa in less games (Hossa more goals though). But beyond scoring, Alfredsson was one of the hardest working forwards the league has seen and carried his team in a way Hossa never did on any of his teams. Hossa seems to get more recognition because A. He won cups and B. He isn't only associated with a disrespected franchise like Ottawa.

 

[MXD]

Can we stop the f***ing nonsense and put Jacques Demers in already?
As for players, well, Iginla is the lone very obvious player. Everone else would be a bottom-half HHOF, some with better cases than others. I'd probably put Fleury in before others for personnal reasons, but Fleury, Hossa and Alfie are in a group that, if one is in, they every other one should be.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Someone made a statistical comparison between eligible players and surprise surprise, Alfredsson is the 2nd most deserving after Iginla.



But he'll likely get shafted again because he played in one of the smallest markets in the league and people don't realize how good he was.

 

[NyQuil]

But he'll likely get shafted again because he played in one of the smallest markets in the league and people don't realize how good he was.

From the Athletic (who conducted their own internal voting):

Jarome Iginla	18 (Elected)
Alex Mogilny	12
Marian Hossa	12
Doug Wilson	9
Mike Vernon	4
Sergei Gonchar	3
Jere Lehtinen	2
Kevin Lowe	2
Keith Tkachuk	1
Theo Fleury	1
Vincent Lecavalier	1
Daniel Alfredsson	0
Steve Larmer	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The Athletic's Hockey Hall of Fame committee: Who we elected...

At this point they are getting off on not electing him. Sean McIndoe basically admits it in the comments.

Does anyone honestly believe that if he were the same player in the same position in Montreal or Toronto that he'd be sitting on the sidelines?

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

From the Athletic (who conducted their own internal voting):

Jarome Iginla	18 (Elected)
Alex Mogilny	12
Marian Hossa	12
Doug Wilson	9
Mike Vernon	4
Sergei Gonchar	3
Jere Lehtinen	2
Kevin Lowe	2
Keith Tkachuk	1
Theo Fleury	1
Vincent Lecavalier	1
Daniel Alfredsson	0
Steve Larmer	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The Athletic's Hockey Hall of Fame committee: Who we elected...

At this point they are getting off on not electing him. Sean McIndoe basically admits it in the comments.

Lmao Lecavalier and Lowe over Alfredsson, what the hell are they smoking?

 

[umma gumma]

Someone made a statistical comparison between eligible players and surprise surprise, Alfredsson is the 2nd most deserving after Iginla.



But he'll likely get shafted again because he played in one of the smallest markets in the league and people don't realize how good he was.

Seriously, the numbers do show he belongs over others. Especially Mogilny.

 

[MXD]

Mogilny over Alfie is total nonsense. Like, absolutely total nonsense (even if he does belong in the discussion, as opposed to Vernon, Gonchar, Lowe, and Lehtinen (well, and Lecavalier, but he got zero votes).

It's cool to see Doug Wilson get some support, but... errhhmm... I don't think you could possibly get Wilson in today while keeping PK Subban out in 15 years.

Fleury, Hossa and Alfie aren't players that absolutely HAVE to be in, but players at their levels (...and lesser players) have been getting in for a while; so, if that level of player is getting in, might as well admit the best ones. None of these being kept out would be a travesty; just keep Mogilny, let alone Kevin f***ing Lowe out as well, otherwise you've been looking at the game the wrong way.

 

[umma gumma]

From the Athletic (who conducted their own internal voting):

Jarome Iginla	18 (Elected)
Alex Mogilny	12
Marian Hossa	12
Doug Wilson	9
Mike Vernon	4
Sergei Gonchar	3
Jere Lehtinen	2
Kevin Lowe	2
Keith Tkachuk	1
Theo Fleury	1
Vincent Lecavalier	1
Daniel Alfredsson	0
Steve Larmer	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The Athletic's Hockey Hall of Fame committee: Who we elected...

At this point they are getting off on not electing him. Sean McIndoe basically admits it in the comments.

Does anyone honestly believe that if he were the same player in the same position in Montreal or Toronto that he'd be sitting on the sidelines?

What a joke. Absolute joke.

 

[Kranix]

Fleury from that NBC link

Here’s something in his favor, via TSN’S Steve Dryden: “Only 15 players in NHL history have averaged at least one point per game in both the regular season (min. 1,000 games) and playoffs (min. 75 games). Fourteen are in the HHOF.” That list includes Wayne Gretzky, Joe Sakic, Phil Esposito, Jean Beliveau, Gordie Howe, and Mark Messier.

 

[LeafsNation75]

From the Athletic (who conducted their own internal voting):

Jarome Iginla	18 (Elected)
Alex Mogilny	12
Marian Hossa	12
Doug Wilson	9
Mike Vernon	4
Sergei Gonchar	3
Jere Lehtinen	2
Kevin Lowe	2
Keith Tkachuk	1
Theo Fleury	1
Vincent Lecavalier	1
Daniel Alfredsson	0
Steve Larmer	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The Athletic's Hockey Hall of Fame committee: Who we elected...

At this point they are getting off on not electing him. Sean McIndoe basically admits it in the comments.

Does anyone honestly believe that if he were the same player in the same position in Montreal or Toronto that he'd be sitting on the sidelines?

If playing in Toronto or Montreal makes it easier to get into the Hockey Hall of Fame, how come that hasn't happened yet for Curtis Joseph? I'm not saying he should be elected, just stating he last played in the NHL during the 2008-09 season and after waiting 3 years to be eligible he still hasn't got in.

 

[KnockHobbler]

From the Athletic (who conducted their own internal voting):

Jarome Iginla	18 (Elected)
Alex Mogilny	12
Marian Hossa	12
Doug Wilson	9
Mike Vernon	4
Sergei Gonchar	3
Jere Lehtinen	2
Kevin Lowe	2
Keith Tkachuk	1
Theo Fleury	1
Vincent Lecavalier	1
Daniel Alfredsson	0
Steve Larmer	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The Athletic's Hockey Hall of Fame committee: Who we elected...

At this point they are getting off on not electing him. Sean McIndoe basically admits it in the comments.

Does anyone honestly believe that if he were the same player in the same position in Montreal or Toronto that he'd be sitting on the sidelines?

Haha what the f***

 

[NyQuil]

If playing in Toronto or Montreal makes it easier to get into the Hockey Hall of Fame, how come that hasn't happened yet for Curtis Joseph? I'm not saying he should be elected, just stating he last played in the NHL during the 2008-09 season and after waiting 3 years to be eligible he still hasn't got in.

Curtis Joseph is actually still very much in the discussion while a goalie with more hardware like Tom Barrasso is also sitting out.

I think Cujo is benefiting, not being penalized.

 

[Kranix]

If playing in Toronto or Montreal makes it easier to get into the Hockey Hall of Fame, how come that hasn't happened yet for Curtis Joseph? I'm not saying he should be elected, just stating he last played in the NHL during the 2008-09 season and after waiting 3 years to be eligible he still hasn't got in.

Didn't play enough seasons as a Leaf for that to take effect. It was close though

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

If playing in Toronto or Montreal makes it easier to get into the Hockey Hall of Fame, how come that hasn't happened yet for Curtis Joseph? I'm not saying he should be elected, just stating he last played in the NHL during the 2008-09 season and after waiting 3 years to be eligible he still hasn't got in.

He was only with Toronto for 4 seasons.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Curtis Joseph is actually still very much in the discussion while a goalie with more hardware like Tom Barrasso is also sitting out.

I think Cujo is benefiting, not being penalized.

Even if Cujo is benefitting you can not say him playing in Toronto is the reason for that. If it was he would have got elected the first year he was eligible.